Can a child be demon possessed? (Mathew 17:14-21)

danschance · Jun 14, 2013

Here is a link to a online deliverance ministry which is the first deliverance ministry I made contact with. As you read thru it, you can see that it was the early stages of me trying to get free. At the time I did not think I was possessed, just harassed.

Ministering Deliverance.com :: View topic - Ex-psychic , with demon, finding his way back to Jesus.

MaggieMye · Jun 14, 2013

From Natan 3, post #19: "How can you agree with that, with such thing as a generational curse; when God said there is no such thing ??????????????? Did you miss Ex 20:5?? 5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me. THis is not about 'hate' per se, but concerning those that do not LOVE and obey the Lord. 'third and fourth generation' speaks of GENERATIONAL. The curse is that the iniquity is something a person is born with, inheriting it from their parents and grandparents, great-grand, etc.

God does not punish people , Does not punish kids for something their family has done. He just does Not do that." You do not understand what iniquity is. God does NOT punish a child for the sins of their fathers, this is true. But the INIQUITY is the PROPENSITY TOWARDS the same type of sin that the fathers committed. It does not mean that the child WILL sin accordingly, but that they have an innate (born with inheritance) propensity towards committing that type of sin. And left unconfessed and unrepented, that propensity increases with each generation. Iniquity is in the blood...it is passed down through the blood just like all diseases (think on that!!) are.

danschance · Jun 14, 2013

Ancestral or generational curses are real godly curses (meaning God placed them on a family) that can have an effect on some people due to a unresolved sin issue of an ancestor.

While going thru deliverance I was encouraged to study non-christian religious practices of my ancestors. I didn't spend a great deal of time on my research and made a list and prayed over each item asking God to forgive my ancestors for these specific sins and to remove any godly curses.

Here is an article about Generational curses: Generational Curses

God gave me a vision of an older man crushing the head of a wheat in his hands. He stared at the kernels of wheat intently. Then I saw him hang a dead goat in a tree. In my recent research I discovered how people in the area of europe where my family is from, would hang a sacrificed animal in a sacred grove for favor of the deities. I knew at once what to do. I prayed that his sin would be forgiven and any curse on my family line would be removed from it.

My ancestor directly went against God by serving a pagan god. This is one sure way to not please God. It is a violation of Deut. 28:15-68

nathan3 · Jun 14, 2013

MaggieMye said:

You do not understand what iniquity is. God does NOT punish a child for the sins of their fathers, this is true. But the INIQUITY is the PROPENSITY TOWARDS the same type of sin that the fathers committed. It does not mean that the child WILL sin accordingly, but that they have an innate (born with inheritance) propensity towards committing that type of sin. And left unconfessed and unrepented, that propensity increases with each generation. Iniquity is in the blood...it is passed down through the blood just like all diseases (think on that!!) are.

i dont by buy

danschance · Jun 14, 2013

nathan3 said:

It is OK to not buy it. Christians are far from being a monolithic group. I would only ask for one thing from those who disagree with another Christian's non-essential beliefs or opinions, which is tolerance.

MaggieMye · Jun 15, 2013

Jesus was NOT tolerant!!

MaggieMye · Jun 15, 2013

danschance said:

Ancestral or generational curses are real godly curses (meaning God placed them on a family) that can have an effect on some people due to a unresolved sin issue of an ancestor GOD does not PUT curses on anyone. The devil does. GOD gives us the authority to BREAK OFF the curses.

While going thru deliverance I was encouraged to study non-christian religious practices of my ancestors. I didn't spend a great deal of time on my research and made a list and prayed over each item asking God to forgive my ancestors for these specific sins and to remove any godly curses.Scripture tells us it is futile to pray for the deceased as their choice has been made while living. We are to Confess the sins of our ancestors, but we repent only for our own sins. God simply wants us to acknowledge the sins of our ancestor as did Daniel in Chapter 9 or 10.

Here is an article about Generational curses: Generational Curses

God gave me a vision of an older man crushing the head of a wheat in his hands. He stared at the kernels of wheat intently. Then I saw him hang a dead goat in a tree. In my recent research I discovered how people in the area of europe where my family is from, would hang a sacrificed animal in a sacred grove for favor of the deities. I knew at once what to do. I prayed that his sin would be forgiven and any curse on my family line would be removed from it. See purple abogve

My ancestor directly went against God by serving a pagan god. This is one sure way to not please God. It is a violation of Deut. 28:15-68[/QUOTE Yes, it is and he will pay the consequences for his adultery. There is absolutely nothing you can do about it. However, that is not do say that he did not repent before he die and you simply don't know about it.
Maggie

Dalisa · Jun 15, 2013

notuptome said:

It certainly is possible. You may find it to manifest as a medical issue or it may just show itself for what it is. Haiti is a good place to find demon possession as a common occurrence. Haiti was a country given to and dedicated to satan by the people and its leaders.

For the cause of Christ
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How come ? Why ?

schoolofyoungprophet · Jun 15, 2013

Yup have seen lot of it,but also seen em delivered by power of God

kenisyes · Jun 15, 2013

MaggieMye said:

Mark 9:38-40. This is the sense meant by Danschance.

damombomb · Jun 15, 2013

I met a girl who was born onto witchcraft because of her Mother, who said she was delivered of several evil spirits.
So yes even the bible talks about this. People like that are spiritully sick and need deliverance, sometimes it is what
their parents have done and they had no choice in the matter.

danschance · Jun 15, 2013

MaggieMye said:

danschance said:

Yes God does curse some people. We all are currently living under the curse of Adam's sin. God clearly pronounced a curse over King David for killing Uriah and adultery with his wife. God said the baby would die and it did. God said the sword from that point on would never leave his house. These are just a few cases I can think of off hand.

Below is a small portion where God clearly says he will curse Some people who disobey him. As I went thru deliverance, God revealed to me That I was under the curse of Deut. 28. He even showed me the exact sin that triggered this curse. When my life became torment from the demonic, I sought out help from other psychics and mediums, instead of God. I did not think this sin was such a big deal but to God it clearly was.

I have only posted a small excerpt of this curse. In deliverance they call this the curse of brass heaven.

Generational or Ancestral curses are real, even today. They also come from God and are related to the curse of brass heaven.

danschance · Jun 15, 2013

MaggieMye said:

Jesus is tolerant, humans tend to not be.

danschance · Jun 15, 2013

"Invisible Freinds and children can be completly harmless. As a 5 year old I pretended to be "Mighty Mouse" and my friend would pretend to be "Superman" in our backyards. We made up the story and sometimes even argued about it. There is another kind of invisble friend which is well known in deliverance and even paranormal circles.

Demonic Spirits Who Play The Role of Imaginary Friends

In the course of my former ministry, I worked with a number of harassment victims who'd either had an imaginary friend as a child, or who had a child who had an imaginary playmate. In some cases, this imaginary friend first made an appearance in a time of stress or trauma. In some, for children who habitually talked to a doll or stuffed animal, the doll or teddy bear suddenly began talking back!

A friend's daughter who was a victim of demonic harassment had a stuffed duck named Quack that she used to play with everyday. After using a Ouija Board with her friends, Quack began to "talk to her." Her brothers teased her mercilessly about carrying on conversations with Quack, often reducing Sally to tears. Finally Quack disappeared. Sally had loved Quack. He'd been her best friend. But when her dad asked what had happened to her duck, Sally said her brothers had teased her so much that she'd finally killed him.

As an adult, married, and with children of her own, Sally became addicted to both anti-depressants and alcohol. Often, she would take her pills with a glass or two of wine. Then came the night that the Quack or Ouija Board spirits began urging Sally to take another pill, another drink, and another, and another. ,,"Think how good it makes you feel, Sally. Just one more..." Bottom line, Sally ended up in the hospital having her stomach pumped, and would have died if her son hadn't found her in time. Though I'm no longer in touch with Sally or her family, I'm certain the spirits who tried their best to kill her through an overdose of drugs and alcohol are still very much with her.

It is not uncommon for parents whose child has an imaginary friend to name the friend and set an extra place at the table, unaware that this is an open invitation for spirits to come into their child's life.

In the case of a family who lived in a haunted house, there was a spirit who would play with their toddler, keeping the child occupied for hours at a time. This spirit would go up and down the stairway carrying the child's balloon. The parents had their house on the market, and were planning to invite the "ghost" to go with them when they moved to their new home. At that time I was still involved with the spirit realm myself, so I was in no position to advise them.

In another case, a lonely adolescent girl acquired a "friend" through the use of a home-made Ouija Board. She would talk to her Ouija Board friend for hours, believing it to be the spirit of a girl named Jessica. Of course this wasn't the spirit of a girl. It was a demonic spirit. I explained this to Barbara's mother, who in turn explained it to Barbara. They then destroyed the makeshift Ouija Board and, with their permission, I did a cast away through God in Jesus' name of the demonic spirit group known as Jessica.

A woman who'd had an imaginary friend as a child had acquired it as a result of her sister's holding a séance and giving her to Satan!

The imaginary friend represented itself as a man approximately four feet tall with skin the color and texture of clay. Her family had named this "imaginary man" Fred. At times when Margo was lonely or sad, Fred would keep her company.

As an adult, Margo was horribly harassed. When she and her husband would go shopping, her arms would flail as if she suffered from Turrett's. When her husband talked to her, Margo would involuntarily roll her eyes toward the ceiling as if she doubted the truth of her husband's words. When lying down, Margo's body would twitch and be twisted by an unseen force into uncomfortable and unusual positions.

It turned out that Margo was possessed by the group of spirits who had played the role of the imaginary friend when she was a child -- the imaginary man who had looked like clay. There were nine groups of possessive spirits in all. During the exorcism, they at first refused to go. Their basis for refusing to leave was that I was calling them by the wrong name. I was calling them Clay Man, for want of a better term. Finally one of them shouted through Margo "Stop calling us Clay Man! Our name is Fred!" If was at that point that Margo remembered that her family had named the imaginary friend Fred. When I addressed them as Fred, and told them in Jesus' name to leave her, the possessive spirits finally left, and Margo's behavior returned to normal.

In another case, a man had created imaginary characters as a child, named Uzzer, Dudder, Digger, Barber, and Warker. He would play with his little sister, talking to these imaginary characters as if they were real. An an adult harassment victim, it was discovered that this man had demonic spirits in his life who had taken the names of Uzzer, Dudder, Digger, Barber, and Warker. Despite the fact that the way these demonic spirits were harassing him were addressed, the spirits refused to leave until we addressed them as Uzzer, Dudder, Digger, Barber, and Warker.

If your child has an imaginary friend, I suggest you take stock of your own life to determine whether or not you've ever done anything to open the door for demonic spirits to harass your child. If the answer is "Yes," there's a strong possibility that your child's "imaginary friend" is actually a demonic spirit.

From Imaginary Friends: Are They Demonic?

Widdekind · Jun 15, 2013

"Demonic Possession" = human psyche over-whelmed by Supra-natural "Spirits"

"Demonic Possession" resembles the Prophetic experience, reported by purported Prophets, whose minds were over-come, with Supra-natural "Holy Spirit" from "God in heaven"

"Spiritual Possession" is the general phenomenon. Sometimes, people report being "Possessed" by God = Prophesy, sometimes by Satan = Demon Possession. Both phenomena are qualitatively similar.

(supposedly, there is only One God)

MaggieMye · Jun 16, 2013

danschance said:

Jesus is tolerant, humans tend to not be.[/QUOTE You are confused. 'turning the other cheek' is HOW Jesus wants us to respond when we are offended. That is the lesson in those verse. He was NEVER tolerant of any type of sin. He got in the Pharisees' faces and called them on their proverbial 'crap'. He challenged the wealthy man that wanted to get into heaven. There was NO compromise. Jesus is LOVINGk, but HE is NOT tolerant of any evil or of those who deem to compromise...sit on the fence...have one foot in the kingdom of darkness and one, so to speak, in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Love the sinner, not the sin.

damombomb · Jun 16, 2013

If someone is under the blood of Christ, I can't see why they would need to be delivered of generational curses. He said he remembers our sins no more

danschance · Jun 16, 2013

Widdekind said:

I am not sure what point you are trying to make. Christians can be indwelt by the Holy Spirit which is very different than being indwelt by a demon. Even so, I find your observation to be intelligent.

danschance · Jun 16, 2013

damombomb said:

I can't argue with your logic. I am not a bible scholar or theologian. I am still learning and the more I learn the more questions I have. For be it for me to even suggest I understand God. I assume that God does not simply view us as an autonomous person, but sees us in a much greater context of who came before us, all the way to Adam.

All I can tell you is that:

1) Generational curses are commonly dealt with in every deliverance ministry across the globe.

2) Generational curses are scriptural.

3) God personally revealed to me that I was under one curse from an ancestor who sacrificed a goat to a pagan god.

MaggieMye · Jun 16, 2013

damombomb said:

If someone is under the blood of Christ, I can't see why they would need to be delivered of generational curses. He said he remembers our sins no more. It is our SINS that are washed away and forgotten. Iniquity is the PROPENSITY TOWARDS. Sin becomes a spiritual genetic defect in our blood. That defect is passed down to future generations UNTIL it is confessed as sin of our ancestors.....acknowledged as sin by us. WE can ask for forgiveness for any part of that sin we have participated in and receive it, but once an ancestor is dead, their fate is sealed. Heb 9:27

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