Can a Gay person be a True Christian?
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First, God gives us the faith to repent of our sins and believe. He does not expect us to wash ourselves up first, and then he saves us. Once he saves us, he begins the work of sanctifying us. That means convicting us of sin, developing the fruits of the Spirit in our lives, receving his gifts so we might better serve God, the body of Christ and bring the lost to an understarnding of the gospel. And prayer! God teaches us how to pray, so that we might be transformed, and our very lives and the changes in them will lead others to realize the parts of their lives that are so empty when they see the difference Christ makes in our lives.
A homosexual is no different. Athough the propaganda has for years been that there is a "gay" gene (not so - not a single study or article has uncovered this) or that once people are damaged by sexual abuse, esp. as children, there is no help for them. A further bit of nonsense is this "gender fluidity" junk, which says that you can be any gender or no gender. Or have your cake and eat it too! Like Bruce Jenner being woman of the year when he kept his "junk." Talk about dysmorphia.
I've said this before. We have a man in our church, very flamboyant, and a marvelous musician and spiritual leader. He has been married to a woman for 26 years and they are very happy. I don't know if God has delivered him totally from homosexual temptation, but he is certainly a person chosen by God.
I think we do need to share the gospel, and pray for people who have lost their way with regards to sexual expression as it is allowed in the Bible. I was just reading the book "Divine Conspiracy" by Dallas Willard today, and he speaks of when Jesus is talking on the Sermon on the Mount, against even lusting for a woman. He also noted by extension, these commands of Jesus (written on our hearts, of course!) apply to all manner of sexual perversions.
The problem we have today, is that the world, the media, and certainly the LGBTQ community are pushing an agenda which is in direct conflict with the Bible. They are seeking to normalize homosexual behaviour, and anyone who says it is sin, is then judged and condemned. So sadly, many people do not even know this kind of behaviour is sin, and must be given up.
I still maintain we need to share the gospel, including sin and repentance, but also the amazing love and grace of God, who died to save a wretch like me! Let the Holy Spirit do the work of saving them, and then be prepared to love, but also to share the way to go with regards to ALL sin! And that is to repent and confess our sins!
I think you have a difficult road to walk, Mike. I will be praying for you!
A homosexual is no different. Athough the propaganda has for years been that there is a "gay" gene (not so - not a single study or article has uncovered this) or that once people are damaged by sexual abuse, esp. as children, there is no help for them. A further bit of nonsense is this "gender fluidity" junk, which says that you can be any gender or no gender. Or have your cake and eat it too! Like Bruce Jenner being woman of the year when he kept his "junk." Talk about dysmorphia.
I've said this before. We have a man in our church, very flamboyant, and a marvelous musician and spiritual leader. He has been married to a woman for 26 years and they are very happy. I don't know if God has delivered him totally from homosexual temptation, but he is certainly a person chosen by God.
I think we do need to share the gospel, and pray for people who have lost their way with regards to sexual expression as it is allowed in the Bible. I was just reading the book "Divine Conspiracy" by Dallas Willard today, and he speaks of when Jesus is talking on the Sermon on the Mount, against even lusting for a woman. He also noted by extension, these commands of Jesus (written on our hearts, of course!) apply to all manner of sexual perversions.
The problem we have today, is that the world, the media, and certainly the LGBTQ community are pushing an agenda which is in direct conflict with the Bible. They are seeking to normalize homosexual behaviour, and anyone who says it is sin, is then judged and condemned. So sadly, many people do not even know this kind of behaviour is sin, and must be given up.
I still maintain we need to share the gospel, including sin and repentance, but also the amazing love and grace of God, who died to save a wretch like me! Let the Holy Spirit do the work of saving them, and then be prepared to love, but also to share the way to go with regards to ALL sin! And that is to repent and confess our sins!
I think you have a difficult road to walk, Mike. I will be praying for you!
Once saved, Always saved. Why then ask forgiveness for our daily sins. If I am a Christian and then I get a wild hair and go shack up with another male. (hey, its been known to happen after they get a divorce first)
Anyway, I am still saved, I still believe in Jesus Christ but I am not only living in sins 24/7, I am Blaspheming God because it is his creation, One Man and One Woman in both OT and NT..
" the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity"
Anyway, I am still saved, I still believe in Jesus Christ but I am not only living in sins 24/7, I am Blaspheming God because it is his creation, One Man and One Woman in both OT and NT..
" the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity"
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Because we break fellowship when we step out of His plan for our lives.......name it and site it or acknowledge it to HIM and we are back in the Spirit.
Prodigal son. Always a son, but not always in fellowship with the Father. And look no further than the self-righteous prig of the older son............and the Father still treated him as a son.
Prodigal son. Always a son, but not always in fellowship with the Father. And look no further than the self-righteous prig of the older son............and the Father still treated him as a son.
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In the case of David it was a one time thing, he did not live that way. I think it's Revelation 22:12 that says OUTSIDE (of heaven after judgement day) are the dogs- those who PRACTICE sin. If you are a practicing (ongoing) homosexual, you are in a spiritually unsafe state, and if you do die in that state, you will be one of the dogs outside. The bible warns not to be deceived, thinking you are saved when you are not. There are righteous people and unrighteous people, and it is true that both sin. But true Christians do not LIVE IN sin. (Romans 6). "We died to sin, how can we live in it any longer?" Who are the VERY elect of God? This means that of those in the righteous category, only a few will be saved.
The bible says that if its hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner? When I speak of true, genuine Christians, I'm referring to the very elect of God, and warning that those who claim the Christian name, yet live in sin on a regular basis, only deceive themselves if the think they will spend eternity in heaven with God. He says 'come out of her my people, or you will be destroyed too, along with the wicked.
The bible says that if its hard for the righteous to be saved, what will become of the ungodly and the sinner? When I speak of true, genuine Christians, I'm referring to the very elect of God, and warning that those who claim the Christian name, yet live in sin on a regular basis, only deceive themselves if the think they will spend eternity in heaven with God. He says 'come out of her my people, or you will be destroyed too, along with the wicked.
What is lordship salvation? Oh, I know, I surrendered to the Lordship of Jesus Christ, and now i I've submitted my life and will to Him. Guess your right!
Again as a heterosexual male, who isn't married, I must keep myself sexually pure before God. Meaning, no sex outside of marriage. No friends with benefits, porn or the like. I'm not allowed to act out on my urges. The same goes for homosexuals. Just because you struggle with something doesn't mean that you have to, or are permitted to act on it.
I've already shared a lot of scriptures that support my views. Your welcome to go back and read them.
If you can't listen to and accept the straight up word of God, then there's nothing I can say better. God bless you in your search for truth.
Again as a heterosexual male, who isn't married, I must keep myself sexually pure before God. Meaning, no sex outside of marriage. No friends with benefits, porn or the like. I'm not allowed to act out on my urges. The same goes for homosexuals. Just because you struggle with something doesn't mean that you have to, or are permitted to act on it.
I've already shared a lot of scriptures that support my views. Your welcome to go back and read them.
If you can't listen to and accept the straight up word of God, then there's nothing I can say better. God bless you in your search for truth.
One can fall away. Scripture warns us of that.
Salvation is granted IF you his fast to the word. If not then it is in vain.
Of one believes than can live IN sin and be IN Christ they're not true believers.
Salvation is granted IF you his fast to the word. If not then it is in vain.
Of one believes than can live IN sin and be IN Christ they're not true believers.
Now I would remind you brothers, of the Gospel I preached to you, which you received, in which you stand, and by which you are being saved, IF you hold fast to the word I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. (1 Corinthians 15:1–2)
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Please study up. It was not a one time thing with David. Do you know why David was a man after Gods own heart?
Because He knew it had NOTHING to do with how he acted.
Get your mind off sin. being proud and arrogant that you don't sin (and you do, a lot) is a worse place to be than those who are in sin.
You and I are only righteous based upon who we are in Christ.
Because He knew it had NOTHING to do with how he acted.
Get your mind off sin. being proud and arrogant that you don't sin (and you do, a lot) is a worse place to be than those who are in sin.
You and I are only righteous based upon who we are in Christ.
He who is unjust, let him be unjust still; he who is filthy, let him be filthy still; he who is righteous, let him be righteous still; he who is holy, let him be holy still.” “And behold, I am coming quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give to every one according to his work. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End, the First and the Last.” Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and practices a lie.
Revelation 22:11*-15 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/rev.22.11-15.NKJV
Choose you this day whom you will serve!
Revelation 22:11*-15 NKJV
http://bible.com/114/rev.22.11-15.NKJV
Choose you this day whom you will serve!
David repented of his sins of murder and adultery and God put away his sin, but David also loved God and was truly faithful. He sinned bit did not live in sin because of his love for God. He laid with one woman and ccommitted adultery. Not a whole Harem on a daily basis. Huge difference in sinning and living IN sin.