Can a person repent if laws do not apply to them?
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Jesus is Truth. He fulfilled it the Law. The Law was a mere shadow of the real substance which is Christ Himself.
Here is a perfect example of putting in Jesus when we read the law in the OT so that we can get the full meaning as it relates to us in the New Covenant in Christ.
Thy righteousness [is] an everlasting righteousness, and thy Son - our Lord/law [is] the truth. Psalms 119:142 (KJV)
Here is a perfect example of putting in Jesus when we read the law in the OT so that we can get the full meaning as it relates to us in the New Covenant in Christ.
Thy righteousness [is] an everlasting righteousness, and thy Son - our Lord/law [is] the truth. Psalms 119:142 (KJV)
The Messiah is indeed the Way, the Truth, and the Life. He obeyed everything His Father told Him. Do you ever wonder why He is called "the Word made flesh". Why not just say, "the love made flesh" or "the grace made flesh"? No, He is the Ultimate example of obeying righteous instructions from His Father!!!
amen, it's true -- but again, i'm talking to a "Chinese room" -- it may as well be a simple app that has a database of quotes that mention the law from the Psalms, and no matter what a user inputs, a random quotation is output.
even as AI goes, this is several decades old tech.
these aren't answers to the questions. if you're not going to have a "discussion" why did you join a discussion board?
this isn't one of those places where you just state something 'followers' click on the thumbs up button. we're actual living beings here, and we like to communicate. that's what this format is for.
thanks
"always be ready to give a reason for the confident hope that is in you"
He was the "word" ( Jesus ) before there ever was a torah. The bible is NOT God which means neither is the torah God. Jesus is the true Word of God.
John 1:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He was in the beginning with God.
If you desire to live by the torah - have at it but it is NOT the gospel of the grace of Christ.
I choose to live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and the law of love, the law of faith, the law of Christ.
John 1:1-2 (NASB)
[SUP]1 [/SUP] In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He was in the beginning with God.
If you desire to live by the torah - have at it but it is NOT the gospel of the grace of Christ.
I choose to live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus and the law of love, the law of faith, the law of Christ.
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by Him all things were made: God said "let there be .. " and there was.
it is interesting too, that the Greek is "logos" -- a much more complexly and subtly defined term, instead of "epos" or "lexi" or other terms which are more simply referring to 'an instance of vocabulary'
it is the Logos of God who is God and who was with God from the beginning, and is always with Him, and is Him. the manner of speaking, the Conversation, the Point - the thing which is being communicated. the Argument.
Jesus the Christ, the Messiah 'is not' the Torah: He is the destination of the Torah. of the prophets, and the wisdom. the end, the goal - the "Point B" & all the Law is like the route; the nursemaid. He is the Living Mercy of God; the thing that considering the Law was meant to bring the Jew to know the need of -- the Grace of God, enfleshed!
it is interesting too, that the Greek is "logos" -- a much more complexly and subtly defined term, instead of "epos" or "lexi" or other terms which are more simply referring to 'an instance of vocabulary'
it is the Logos of God who is God and who was with God from the beginning, and is always with Him, and is Him. the manner of speaking, the Conversation, the Point - the thing which is being communicated. the Argument.
Jesus the Christ, the Messiah 'is not' the Torah: He is the destination of the Torah. of the prophets, and the wisdom. the end, the goal - the "Point B" & all the Law is like the route; the nursemaid. He is the Living Mercy of God; the thing that considering the Law was meant to bring the Jew to know the need of -- the Grace of God, enfleshed!
Jesus had to take our place so He had to be born under the Law and fulfill the law so that we could be fee from the Law to newness of life in Him. We live now by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of love, the law of faith, the law of liberty and the law of Christ - which is Jesus Himself.
Galatians 4:4-5 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,
[SUP]5 [/SUP] so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
We have been released from the LAw so that we could be joined to another - Christ our Lord.
Romans 7:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
Going back to the law for life is committing adultery on our Lord.
Galatians 4:4-5 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] But when the fullness of the time came, God sent forth His Son, born of a woman, born under the Law,
[SUP]5 [/SUP] so that He might redeem those who were under the Law, that we might receive the adoption as sons.
We have been released from the LAw so that we could be joined to another - Christ our Lord.
Romans 7:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.
Going back to the law for life is committing adultery on our Lord.
uh huh.
i didn't mention "thinking or feeling" there man.
how about answering my questions?
has studying the law brought you to a knowledge of the truth?
i think you ought to share it, don't you?
no one here has ever argued the scripture is not good. that's a waste of your time. we've all read the Book.
i didn't mention "thinking or feeling" there man.
how about answering my questions?
has studying the law brought you to a knowledge of the truth?
i think you ought to share it, don't you?
no one here has ever argued the scripture is not good. that's a waste of your time. we've all read the Book.
The good news is that it is not by our work that we are saved.
Its not by our work that we are made righteous.
Its not by our work that we keep commandments.
The Good News is that the Lord Jesus Christ has done the work to save us, to make us righteous and to bless us.
Ephesians 1:3-14
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Its not by our work that we are made righteous.
Its not by our work that we keep commandments.
The Good News is that the Lord Jesus Christ has done the work to save us, to make us righteous and to bless us.
Ephesians 1:3-14
[SUP]3 [/SUP]Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
[SUP]4 [/SUP]According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Having predestinated us unto the adoption of children by Jesus Christ to himself, according to the good pleasure of his will,
[SUP]6 [/SUP]To the praise of the glory of his grace, wherein he hath made us accepted in the beloved.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
[SUP]10 [/SUP]That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:
[SUP]11 [/SUP]In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will:
[SUP]12 [/SUP]That we should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Good question!
We have word-for-word accounts of the true gospel being preached in Acts. First by Peter to Gentiles. Acts 10: 34-48. The operative scriptures are verse 43 and 44.
Then we have a word-for-word account of the true gospel being preached to Jewish people by Paul in Acts 13:16-44.
In this case the operative verses are 38 and 39.
Notice Paul says to the Jews in verse 39
" and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things from which you could not be freed through the law of Moses."
I encourage you to go and study it out. It'll bless you.
We have word-for-word accounts of the true gospel being preached in Acts. First by Peter to Gentiles. Acts 10: 34-48. The operative scriptures are verse 43 and 44.
Then we have a word-for-word account of the true gospel being preached to Jewish people by Paul in Acts 13:16-44.
In this case the operative verses are 38 and 39.
Notice Paul says to the Jews in verse 39
" and through Him everyone who believes is freed from all things from which you could not be freed through the law of Moses."
I encourage you to go and study it out. It'll bless you.
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