Can a person repent if laws do not apply to them?

[disciplemike]

is this what makes Him special?

is that all? is this the sum of what considering the law taught you?

"as for righteousness based on the law, faultless."​

- Paul​

"I have kept all these from my youth."​

- a certain young nobleman​

hmm.

can't be in the Kingdom unless you are willing to obey the King!

 

[disciplemike]

uh huh.
i didn't mention "thinking or feeling" there man.

how about answering my questions?

has studying the law brought you to a knowledge of the truth?

i think you ought to share it, don't you?

no one here has ever argued the scripture is not good. that's a waste of your time. we've all read the Book.

if you have read the Book, then you should know what your Father likes and does not like.

 

[disciplemike]

Thank God that the Lord gave us a new heart in the New Covenant.

The new heart and the new spirit is so you can walk in His statutes and His judgements. This is Scripture, friend.

 

[Grandpa]

The new heart and the new spirit is so you can walk in His statutes and His judgements. This is Scripture, friend.

Roger that.

1 Timothy 1:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

 

[Grace777x70]

The new heart and the new spirit is so you can walk in His statutes and His judgements. This is Scripture, friend.

nonsense...Jesus didn't die for us to help us to stop eating pork or to help us trim the sides of our head....etc....it is not in the keeping of certain laws...

we live by Christ that is in our hearts and He is in yours too if you are truly born of the Spirit of God....we live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of faith ( the law is not of faith ), the law of love, the law of liberty.

 

[disciplemike]

nonsense...Jesus didn't die for us to help us to stop eating pork or to help us trim the sides of our head....etc....it is not in the keeping of certain laws...

we live by Christ that is in our hearts and He is in yours too if you are truly born of the Spirit of God....we live by the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus, the law of faith ( the law is not of faith ), the law of love, the law of liberty.

A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do
[them]. Ezekiel 36:26-27 (KJV)

 

[disciplemike]

Roger that.

1 Timothy 1:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
[SUP]6 [/SUP]From which some having swerved have turned aside unto vain jangling;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Desiring to be teachers of the law; understanding neither what they say, nor whereof they affirm.

When you love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, this is the aim of the law.

 

[oldethennew]

1JOHN 5:3.
For this is the Love of God, that we keep His Commandments: and His Commandments are not grievous.

1JOHN 5:21. - Little children, keep yourselves from idols. Amen.

 

[Grandpa]

When you love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, this is the aim of the law.

Faith unfeigned.

Galatians 3:11-12
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.


I'm sorry, did you say something?

Yes. 2x. Didn't you hear it?

What?

 

[HisHolly]

Romans 2:15-16 answers the OP

 

[Grace777x70]

The new heart and the new spirit is so you can walk in His statutes and His judgements. This is Scripture, friend.[

/QUOTE]

The new heart and spirit is Jesus living in us. Jesus didn't save us to go back to the law for life. The Law is a mere shadow of the real substance which is Christ - in you.

The Law Written on Our Hearts is not the Ten Commandments

“This is the covenant I will make with them after that time,” says the Lord. “I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them on their minds.” (Heb 10:16)

“This is obviously a reference to the law of Moses,” says the law-preacher. “The Ten Commandments were written in stone, now they’re written in the hearts and minds of God’s people.”

Not true. Here are seventeen reasons why God has not written the Ten Commandments on your heart:

1. The law inflames sin (Rom 5:20) and the strength of sin is the law (1 Cor 15:56). Why would God want to stir up sin in your life?

2. The law condemns (2 Cor 3:9), yet there is no condemnation to those in Christ.

3. The law ministers death (2 Cor 3:7), but God wants you to enjoy abundant life.

4. Law and grace don’t mix. You are under grace, not law (Rom 6:14).

5. Living by the law will alienate you from Christ (Gal 5:4).

6. Living by the law is cheating on Jesus (Rom 7). Why would God do anything to encourage spiritual adultery?

7. We’re to live by faith but the law is not of faith (Gal 3:12). The law encourages us to depend on ourselves instead of Jesus.

8. Those who live under the law are under a curse (Gal 3:10). Why would God curse those he has blessed?

9. The law binds and enslaves (Rom 7:6), but Jesus wants you free.

10. The law keeps you immature for it makes nothing perfect or complete (Heb 7:19).

11. We have died to the law so that we may serve in the new way of the Spirit and “not in the old way of the written code” (Rom 7:6).

12. When there has been a change of priesthood, the law must be changed also (Heb 7:12). For God to write the old law on our hearts would be like saying Aaron is greater than Jesus.

13. God found fault with the law-keeping covenant and made it obsolete (Heb 8:7,13). Why would God insult his Son’s sacrifice by giving you the very thing his sacrifice rendered obsolete?

14. The law is a shadow of the good things to come and not the reality (Heb 10:1). Why would God give you the shadow instead of “the good thing”?

15. The Jews considered the law to be ordained by angels (Heb 2:2). If so, says the author of Hebrews, then it is inferior to the gospel of Jesus (Heb 1:4). Why would God give you an inferior gift?

16. Some Christians think that God gives them the law as a guide to live by, but why would God want you to repeat the mistake of the Galatians (Gal 3:2)? Why would God do anything to make you fall from grace?

17. The old law-keeping covenant required an accounting or remembering of sin, but the new covenant is characterized by God forgiving and forgetting on account of Jesus (Heb 10:17). If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, then Jesus died for nothing.

If God has written the Ten Commandments on your heart and mind, you should be able to list all ten with no trouble. Can you? What’s the seventh commandment? You can’t do it because it’s not there, and a very good thing that is too! If the law that God writes in our hearts is the law of Moses, you’re in big trouble.

The good news is that God has written in us a far better law. What is this new and better law?

Here is the rest of it. Click the link below

What is the Law Written on Our Hearts?

https://escapetoreality.org/2015/04/23/what-is-the-law-written-on-our-hearts/

 

[posthuman]

is this what makes Him special?

is that all? is this the sum of what considering the law taught you?

"as for righteousness based on the law, faultless."​

- Paul​

"I have kept all these from my youth."​

- a certain young nobleman​

hmm.

can't be in the Kingdom unless you are willing to obey the King!

that's not an answer, mike.
it's a bumper sticker.

do you think the fact that Christ kept the law is the only thing that makes Him special?
is that all Jesus is to you? just an example of obedience to the covenant with Israel under Moses for gentiles to follow?

like, the law itself turned out to not be enough - so God scratched plan A and sent plan B, a human to keep the law, like maybe all we needed was a demonstration? because that's kinda what your "answer" is indicating. that's blasphemy, mike. maybe you ought to clarify & actually answer the question?

 

[posthuman]

can't be in the Kingdom unless you are willing to obey the King!

this isn't an answer to the question . .

if you have read the Book, then you should know what your Father likes and does not like.

and this isn't an answer to the question.

When you love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself, this is the aim of the law.

and this is a lie -- that is not "the aim" of the law; this is the summary of the law.

"love God; love others" is not the gospel - it is the law. and it cannot save.

by the law, no flesh will be justified. that is scripture.

are you sure you've "studied" the law?

what did you learn from it? what does it produce in you, comprehending it?

 

[oldethennew]

"love God; love others" is not the gospel - it is the law. and it cannot save."
=========================================

these Holy Words, 'Love God and love others' - these words are 'our' gospel -
they have everything to do with what our Saviour requires of us to do to become
members of the Holy family that our Precious Lord and Saviour has created for us
to desire to evolve and grow into...

 

[FlSnookman7]

"love God; love others" is not the gospel - it is the law. and it cannot save."
=========================================

these Holy Words, 'Love God and love others' - these words are 'our' gospel -
they have everything to do with what our Saviour requires of us to do to become
members of the Holy family that our Precious Lord and Saviour has created for us
to desire to evolve and grow into...

Actually Jesus said those were the 2 commandments He was leaving us, the gospel is much more. The gospel Jesus gave paul is all about grace and who we really are in Christ.

 

[disciplemike]

like, the law itself turned out to not be enough - so God scratched plan A and sent plan B, a human to keep the law, like maybe all we needed was a demonstration? because that's kinda what your "answer" is indicating. that's blasphemy, mike. maybe you ought to clarify & actually answer the question?

Hello you. To provide salvation by making people keep the law never was plan A. This is evidence you don't know Scripture. There was never a promise of eternal life connected to the law. The promise was made to Abraham, and accomplished through his Seed, Yeshua HaMashiach. Go study your Bible.

 

[disciplemike]

The new heart and the new spirit is so you can walk in His statutes and His judgements. This is Scripture, friend.[

/QUOTE]

The new heart and spirit is Jesus living in us. Jesus didn't save us to go back to the law for life. The Law is a mere shadow of the real substance which is Christ - in you.

So God wants to write His laws on your heart, because you DON'T have to keep them. That doesn't sound right to me, but maybe I am not smart enough to catch that.

 

[Grace777x70]

So God wants to write His laws on your heart, because you DON'T have to keep them. That doesn't sound right to me, but maybe I am not smart enough to catch that.

What you are not catching is the life of Christ in a believer and the fact that we can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us as we are God's children now. If you want to "catch" this - learn to trust in Jesus only for all things in life. He is your life. ( Col. 3:3 )

Do you think Christ in us by the Holy Spirit can be trusted? His laws are NOT the Old Covenant ...this is where you miss the whole thing. There is a NEW Covenant now.

The new laws are below...5 of them ( number for grace too..kinda cool eh? ): These are the ones written on our hearts - not to not trim the side of our beards. The law was to reveal Christ He fulfilled it. The Law was a mere shadow of the reality that was to come.

1) the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus

2) the law of love

3) the law of faith ( the old covenant law is not of faith )

4) the law of liberty in Christ ( Judazizers came in after Paul preached the true gospel and tried to bring in the keeping of the Law to pervert the true gospel....just like people try to do toady )

5) the law of Christ - Christ is enough in us

 

[disciplemike]

What you are not catching is the life of Christ in a believer and the fact that we can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us as we are God's children now. If you want to "catch" this - learn to trust in Jesus only for all things in life. He is your life. ( Col. 3:3 )

Do you think Christ in us by the Holy Spirit can be trusted? His laws are NOT the Old Covenant ...this is where you miss the whole thing. There is a NEW Covenant now.

The new laws are below...5 of them ( number for grace too..kinda cool eh? ): These are the ones written on our hearts - not to not trim the side of our beards. The law was to reveal Christ He fulfilled it. The Law was a mere shadow of the reality that was to come.

1) the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus

2) the law of love

3) the law of faith ( the old covenant law is not of faith )

4) the law of liberty in Christ ( Judazizers came in after Paul preached the true gospel and tried to bring in the keeping of the Law to pervert the true gospel....just like people try to do toady )

5) the law of Christ - Christ is enough in us

Once again, how can we come to an agreement if we don't agree what the gospel is?

 

[seed_time_harvest]

Because we are still sinners under Grace!

What the Law COULD NOT DO FOR US, Jesus DIED for our sins!

Are you beholding the physical mirror(talking about the flesh) which operates by the persons sense knowledge more than the spiritual mirror(talking about the bible) which operates by faith?