Can the Trinity be Biblically proven?
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After reading your article on the trinity I find it ironic that momost of the people you quoted were all trinatarians. A.W Tozer wrote a book "Glory of the Trinity." Charles Ryrie who just died was a trinitarian. So was Millard Erickson and Cyril Richardson.
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
F
After reading your article on the trinity I find it ironic that momost of the people you quoted were all trinatarians. A.W Tozer wrote a book "Glory of the Trinity." Charles Ryrie who just died was a trinitarian. So was Millard Erickson and Cyril Richardson.
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
O
No, I'm calling you a heretic, and your beliefs heretical.
F
The proper answer would be that you believe in the edict of the Church council that made the Trinity doctrine instead of calling names. He is correct that the Trinity wasn't taught by the Lord or the Apostles - that doesn't make the Trinity wrong but he is correct. The fact that you disagree is no reason to be rude. Think before you type. This is supposed to be a Christian forum but the behavior of some contradicts that.
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O
I am not calling him a name. I am calling him out for what he is. People throw around the term heretic, but this is exactly what defines a heretic....a denial of one or more of the essentials of the Christian Faith. The Trinity is one of those essentials.
F
I see your point but you don't seem to understand that there are many true believers who adhere to Sola Scriptura. To them the decisions of men or councils are not scripture or to be held in higher regard. The point that the Trinity isn't taught in the scriptures is correct. Saying so doesn't make one a heretic (in my humble opinion).
O
Sola Scriptura is not one of the essentials of the Christian Faith. The Trinity is. And it's on everyone's list as being so.
For me (for whatever that's worth) the essentials of the faith are found within the covers of the Bible. If we're going to base our faith upon the writings of men and church councils, we might as well all go join the RCC.
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Somebody better dig up Marin Luther than.
For me (for whatever that's worth) the essentials of the faith are found within the covers of the Bible. If we're going to base our faith upon the writings of men and church councils, we might as well all go join the RCC.
For me (for whatever that's worth) the essentials of the faith are found within the covers of the Bible. If we're going to base our faith upon the writings of men and church councils, we might as well all go join the RCC.
I see your point but you don't seem to understand that there are many true believers who adhere to Sola Scriptura. To them the decisions of men or councils are not scripture or to be held in higher regard. The point that the Trinity isn't taught in the scriptures is correct. Saying so doesn't make one a heretic (in my humble opinion).
Jesus said, 'That all may honour the Son AS they honour the Father. He who does not honour the Son (as they honour the Father), does not honour the Father Who sent Him.' John 5.23
“For as the Father has life in Himself, so has He given the Son to have life in Himself” John 5.26
Jesus answered them, “MY Father is working still and I am working.” This was why the Jews sought the more to kill Him, because He not only broke the Sabbath, but also called God His own Father, making Himself equal with God John 5.17-18
“Truly, truly I say to you, before Abraham was, I AM” John 8.58
Philip said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father and we will be satisfied.” Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you do not know Me, Philip? He who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, Show us the Father. John 14.9
“And this is life eternal, that they may know you the only true God and Jesus Christ Whom You have sent – and now, Father, glorify Me with the glory which I had with You before the world was” (John 17.5)
John said, 'In the beginning was the WORD, and the WORD was face to face with God, and What God was the Word was, – and the Word was made flesh and dwelt among us” (John 1.1, 14).
The risen Jesus said, “Baptising them in the (one) Name (YHWH) of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,” Matthew 28.19
And for us there is ONE GOD, the Father, from Whom are all things and for Whom we exist, and ONE LORD through Whom are all things and through Whom we exist 1 Corinthians 8.6 (in contrast with the many gods and lords)
He is the IMAGE of the invisible God, the firstBORN before the whole of creation Colossians 1.15
In Him dwells all the fullness of the Godhead in bodily form Colossians 2.9
Awaiting our blessed hope, the appearing of the glory of our great God and Saviour Jesus Christ Titus 2.13
When the goodness and kindness of God our Saviour appeared, – which He poured out upon us through Jesus Christ our Saviour Titus 3.4, 6
In the righteousness of our God and Saviour Jesus Christ – of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ 2 Peter 1.1 ,11 (exactly parallel in the Greek).
Who being the outshining of His glory and the exact representation of His substance Heb 1.3
He is the SON in contrast to all angels Heb 1.4 following
After reading your article on the trinity I find it ironic that momost of the people you quoted were all trinatarians. A.W Tozer wrote a book "Glory of the Trinity." Charles Ryrie who just died was a trinitarian. So was Millard Erickson and Cyril Richardson.
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
In fact you just stated you went to Liberty college and this to is a trinatarian college. Now what are you going to do? It looks like you cherry picked their words to support your errant theolog.
And bty, a descriptive word does have to be in the bible for a teaching to be true. Bottom line, since Jesus Christ is God He had to have preexisted His incarnation as a man. Phillippians 2:6 teaches this.
IN HIM,
bluto
That's right, and is what I said, "esteemed Trinitarians, who admit the Bible doesn't teach the Trinity.
Quasar92
Did you happen to notice it was taken from the website "Beyond Today". Which is part of the United Church of God, which is an offshoot of the Worldwide Church of God and Herbert W Armstrong? What he is selling as his own "theology" is nothing more than the teachings of a known heretic.
What difference does that make when the quotes came from esteemed Trinitarians who admit the Trinity cannot be taught from the Bible. Which you have yet to learn!
Quasar