Can the Trinity be Biblically proven?
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Truth causes many problems.
Jesus brought a sword,not peace,to those that stumble and attempt to disenfranchise heaven.
That's WHY it is rare to see courage. Truth cuts.
Stop bad mouthing moderators. They are going to continue to ban people.
Those you defend are heretics. Destructive ANTICHRIST HERETICS.
SPEWING LIES AND TRASH FROM HELL.
ENEMIES OF THE CROSS. ENEMIES OF TRUTH.
WHAT PART OF Jn 1 and Heb 1 do you not agree with?
Jesus brought a sword,not peace,to those that stumble and attempt to disenfranchise heaven.
That's WHY it is rare to see courage. Truth cuts.
Stop bad mouthing moderators. They are going to continue to ban people.
Those you defend are heretics. Destructive ANTICHRIST HERETICS.
SPEWING LIES AND TRASH FROM HELL.
ENEMIES OF THE CROSS. ENEMIES OF TRUTH.
WHAT PART OF Jn 1 and Heb 1 do you not agree with?
Hi popeye. Like I said, I’m a new Christian who’s been trying to learn, but I always assumed that the reason that Jesus said that he brought a sword instead of peace, was because his testimony would not always bring universal agreement within families. Let’s say a family who practiced Hinduism, had a son or daughter who converted to Christianity. There wouldn’t be peace, but a sword of divisiveness among the family. Some would be pitted against their other family members, or even cut off, simply for not accepting their family’s religion. Am I wrong on this?
hi oath,
Jesus said about not bringing peace but a sword to the Jewish people. He knew that controversy would rage in families about the old Judaism and the new Judaism He had introduced. And Himself as the Messiah. He knew that His claim would result in persecution and murder because the old would persecute the New. Because the old had gone off the track.
You mustn't think that because people talk of having received their words and doctrine from the Spirit it is necessarily so. The bigger the heresy the more they will claim 'the Spirit'. But it is false claims that mean nothing, You must learn to discern from the Scriptures without claiming 'special guidance'. All claim 'the Spirit'. Christianity has survived for 2000 years. Someone must have kept it going. And the major doctrines were held by those people. This new heresy about Jesus being created, reviving an old one, has not stood the test of time.
Jesus said about not bringing peace but a sword to the Jewish people. He knew that controversy would rage in families about the old Judaism and the new Judaism He had introduced. And Himself as the Messiah. He knew that His claim would result in persecution and murder because the old would persecute the New. Because the old had gone off the track.
You mustn't think that because people talk of having received their words and doctrine from the Spirit it is necessarily so. The bigger the heresy the more they will claim 'the Spirit'. But it is false claims that mean nothing, You must learn to discern from the Scriptures without claiming 'special guidance'. All claim 'the Spirit'. Christianity has survived for 2000 years. Someone must have kept it going. And the major doctrines were held by those people. This new heresy about Jesus being created, reviving an old one, has not stood the test of time.
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Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Matthew 10:34
When Jesus said that He came not to send peace on earth,but a sword,He did advocate violence in the name of Christianity,but because there would be division because of Him laying down the truth,but so be it,for He had to come so that some could be saved.
Originally Posted by JesusRules1
When Jesus said that He came not to send peace on earth,but a sword,He did advocate violence in the name of Christianity,but because there would be division because of Him laying down the truth,but so be it,for He had to come so that some could be saved
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Jesus is made after the order of Melchizedek forever,and He had no beginning of days,or end of life,without father,or mother,which means He was God Himself showing a visible manifestation to Abraham.
Jesus is God Himself showing a visible manifestation of Himself,the only way we can see the invisible God.
Jesus is God Himself showing a visible manifestation of Himself,the only way we can see the invisible God.
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[TD]Gen 1:26[/TD]
[TD]¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Odd that a singular non-triune God would say let US make man in OUR image is it not?[/TD]
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Oh before anyone asks, Jesus is God
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[TD]Gen 1:26[/TD]
[TD]¶And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
Odd that a singular non-triune God would say let US make man in OUR image is it not?[/TD]
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Oh before anyone asks, Jesus is God
Jesus in respect to the Son of God or Jesus in respect to the Son of man the created version ?
I say Jesus in respect to His Spirit is not a man as us, he is God as no other . Supernatural (with out nature) Spirit of Christ has no beginning of day, He remains without mother or father or end of Spirit life.
I say Jesus in respect to His Spirit is not a man as us, he is God as no other . Supernatural (with out nature) Spirit of Christ has no beginning of day, He remains without mother or father or end of Spirit life.
First of all garee who says God cannot become a man? Secondly, John 10:30 is teaching that the Son and God the Father are one in nature/essence. Jesus said that the sheep are equally safe in His hand and in His Father's hand. The power of the Son is equal to that of the Father. The Greek word for "one" is "hen." It is a neuter number to indicate equality of essence, attributes, design, will and work.
Jesus distinguishes the "I" from the "Father" and uses the plural verb "are" denoting "we are." So the verse literally says, "I and My Father we are one." If you look at vs24 of John 10, "The Jews therefore gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, "How long will You keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ/Messiah, tell us plainly."
Jesus "DOES NOT" say I am the Christ/Messiah, he says I and my Father, we are one." How do the Jews react to what Jesus said? Vs31, The Jews took up stones again to stone Him." At vs33, "The Jews answsered Him, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself God." No one is stoned or killed for claiming to be the Messiah and in fact even today people are running around the landscape claiming to be the Christ/Messiah.
And lastly, God the Father and God the Son do NOT have separate attributes. I just exegteted John 10:30 which is clearly teaching they are equal in every way including their attributes.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto
Jesus distinguishes the "I" from the "Father" and uses the plural verb "are" denoting "we are." So the verse literally says, "I and My Father we are one." If you look at vs24 of John 10, "The Jews therefore gathered around Him, and were saying to Him, "How long will You keep us in suspense? If you are the Christ/Messiah, tell us plainly."
Jesus "DOES NOT" say I am the Christ/Messiah, he says I and my Father, we are one." How do the Jews react to what Jesus said? Vs31, The Jews took up stones again to stone Him." At vs33, "The Jews answsered Him, For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself God." No one is stoned or killed for claiming to be the Messiah and in fact even today people are running around the landscape claiming to be the Christ/Messiah.
And lastly, God the Father and God the Son do NOT have separate attributes. I just exegteted John 10:30 which is clearly teaching they are equal in every way including their attributes.
IN GOD THE SON,
bluto