Desire To Sin

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Budman

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Do you believe that when one becomes a Christian, the desire to sin should be gone?
 
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dalconn

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No.....sometimes it gets worse
 
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The bible doesn't say it is gone.
 
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We have an enemy that speaks lies to us, we have the world with it's way of living, and we have the flesh which has the power if sin in it. The flesh is a left over of the old man's ( which has been crucified with Christ and now e have a new man ) way of thinking, habits, ways of acting, our un-renewed beliefs in our brain.

The flesh and the power of sin in it ..are in cahoots together to derail your thinking ( to keep your thoughts from believing your true identity in Christ )

The power of sin in you knows what works on you. Whatever areas of your life that you have struggled with is what "sin" brings to you.

The power of sin then condemns you..saying you are unworthy, guilty, etc. The Holy Spirit is in us to tell us that we have in fact a new identity in Christ. He will tell you that you are the righteousness of God in Christ...the Holy Spirit will tell you who you really are because of Christ's perfect sacrifice for you!
 
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THE BIBLE is clear...the body is dead because of sin and the flesh is weak and wants to sin...the spirit that is born of God seeks to do that which is spiritual and right..these two war one against the other....no the desire of the flesh to sin is present till death or the change!
 

Blain

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The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak
 
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WarriorForChrist

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The enemy will continue to try and sway us away from God. I believe the closer we get to God the stronger we will be to resist temptations.
 
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When we know who we are in Christ and grow in the knowledge and grace that is in Him....we become established in the "word of righteousness". The whole gospel is stating that it is the righteousness of God..

Romans 1:16-17 (NASB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith to faith; as it is written, "BUT THE RIGHTEOUS man SHALL LIVE BY FAITH."

When we see who we are in Christ..that He is our righteousness!..We just naturally become who we really are in Him. unfortunately religion says..you have to do this or that in order to be righteous..they are not submitting themselves to God's righteousness.

So..knowing our righteousness in Christ...this scripture come alive to us now with no condemnation.

1 Corinthians 15:34 (KJV)
[SUP]34 [/SUP] Awake to righteousness, and sin not; for some have not the knowledge of God:
 
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FreeNChrist

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Do you believe that when one becomes a Christian, the desire to sin should be gone?
I think when we become a Christian we have the desire to NOT sin. But the flesh is not eradicated at conversion and it does not improve, it does not get better, it cannot be reformed. That sets up the behavioral conflict within, between the Spirit and the flesh, as the tempter utilizes those patterned desires that he himself helped develop to tempt us to quench the desires of the Spirit of Christ.
 
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Well said! That gives it a more complete mindset for understanding the question...

I think when we become a Christian we have the desire to NOT sin. But the flesh is not eradicated at conversion and it does not improve, it does not get better, it cannot be reformed. That sets up the behavioral conflict within, between the Spirit and the flesh, as the tempter utilizes those patterned desires that he himself helped develop to tempt us to quench the desires of the Spirit of Christ.
 

Blain

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Do you think it is possible it gets worse for those not truly living under a righteousness of faith in Christ?
No that's not how it works, the desire to sin becoming stronger for others isn't about the righteousness of their faith for none of us are truly righteous in that sense. We all have weaknesses some find it harder to be patient some find it harder to pray others find it harder to love others still find it harder to forgive and some find it harder to not sin
 
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The flesh never desires to not sin; it doesn't care about GOD. Only a being who is ruled by the spirit of GOD, or who hungers and thirsts for righteousness, desires to not sin.
 
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FreeNChrist

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The enemy will continue to try and sway us away from God. I believe the closer we get to God the stronger we will be to resist temptations.
I would say that the closer we get to God the stronger the temptations become and the more we learn the need to depend upon Christ alone and His strength.
 

Joidevivre

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If you have the Holy Spirit indwelling you, sin no longer satisfies as it once did. You might still have the desire and even give in to it. But then comes THE VOICE in our spiritual ear calling us to surrender those desires to Him and live from a higher place. To be that witness of His power to cause you to be an over-comer.

We are not asked to be escape artists - only over-comers. It is easy to just say NO to sin if you are really living to please the Lord and be all that He has purposed for you to be.

It is good that the desire to sin is not totally taken away. Then we would just be robots and not allowed to make the choice to just say no. By so doing, we become stronger and become that vessel for Christ to be manifested through. Our sins are only obstacles that block the Living Water from flowing within us and out from us towards others.

Our struggle only lends itself to having more compassion for those who are weaker.
 
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No that's not how it works, the desire to sin becoming stronger for others isn't about the righteousness of their faith for none of us are truly righteous in that sense. We all have weaknesses some find it harder to be patient some find it harder to pray others find it harder to love others still find it harder to forgive and some find it harder to not sin
The power of sin is the law Blain(1Cor15:56)

When Paul lived under a righteousness of law he became a worse sinner.
He said sin would NOT be your master for you are not under law but under grace.

That would strongly suggest if you become a Christian, but do not really trust Christ is your righteousness, but rather your own personal goodness(under the law) you will be a far greater sinner by having that view
 

Blain

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The power of sin is the law Blain(1Cor15:56)

When Paul lived under a righteousness of law he became a worse sinner.
He said sin would NOT be your master for you are not under law but under grace.

That would strongly suggest if you become a Christian, but do not really trust Christ is your righteousness, but rather your own personal goodness(under the law) you will be a far greater sinner by having that view
I never saw Paul living under a righteousness of the law, before he was saved he didn't follow the law he killed mercilessly and was proud and arrogant when he became saved he constantly taught that it was the grace of God in which he was saved and made righteous. Also I have never seen the power of sin being in the law I wrote his law on my heart and found true delight in it. His law is like sweet honey to my soul it teaches me the way to go how to be more like him and it shows me who he is, the law can be a burden and a curse for those who try to be good enough by following it but when one lives under the wings of God's grace the law is not a curse but a blessing
 

Joidevivre

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The OT law is always a curse. That is why it is written in Ephesians 2:15 that Christ abolished the law of commandments expressed in ordinances. Paul even wrote that it was a was a dividing wall of hostility. It still is if you read enough threads.

We are told to love God with our entire being, and to love others as we love ourselves.. All actions should come from this place. Not a law - just something that pleases God and truly blesses us. And reveals that we no longer live for ourselves, but for God.
 
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popeye

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Secular tv will derail a believers intensity with Jesus.

Accountability goes a long way toward victory.

But,remember the old Indian that testified of his walk.
"how are you getting along with God?"

"I see two dogs fighting inside me,one white,one black."

"which one wins "

"which ever one I feed the most"