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as far as eternity goes your right. in fact many Gentiles were saved, even in the OT time of Israel.
But eternity is not what we are talking about.
1. You were never promised a piece of land
2. You were never told if you obey me, I will bless you in that land, If you do not obey me, I will curse you and your land, even up to the point of removing you from the land and having the land destroyed.
3. You were never promised that even after you have been taken from the land, And it was destroyed, if you repent, And admit your sin and the sin of your fathers, That God will remember the land, remember th epromise he made to the fathers, and restor you to the same land.
But eternity is not what we are talking about.
1. You were never promised a piece of land
2. You were never told if you obey me, I will bless you in that land, If you do not obey me, I will curse you and your land, even up to the point of removing you from the land and having the land destroyed.
3. You were never promised that even after you have been taken from the land, And it was destroyed, if you repent, And admit your sin and the sin of your fathers, That God will remember the land, remember th epromise he made to the fathers, and restor you to the same land.
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God did not take anything away from Israel. He did just what he promised to do if they did not obey him.
Lev 26:
[SUP]27 [/SUP]‘And after all this, if you do not obey Me, but walk contrary to Me, [SUP]28 [/SUP]then I also will walk contrary to you in fury;
and I, even I, will chastise you seven times for your sins. [SUP]29 [/SUP]You shall eat the flesh of your sons, and you shall eat the flesh of your daughters. [SUP]30 [/SUP]I will destroy your high places, cut down your incense altars, and cast your carcasses on the lifeless forms of your idols; and My soul shall abhor you. [SUP]31 [/SUP]I will lay your cities waste and bring your sanctuaries to desolation, and I will not smell the fragrance of your sweet aromas. [SUP]32 [/SUP]I will bring the land to desolation, and your enemies who dwell in it shall be astonished at it. [SUP]33[/SUP]I will scatter you among the nations and draw out a sword after you; your land shall be desolate and your cities waste.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Then the land shall enjoy its sabbaths as long as it lies desolate and you are in your enemies’ land;
then the land shall rest and enjoy its sabbaths.
[SUP]35 [/SUP]As long as it lies desolate it shall rest— for the time it did not rest on your sabbaths when you dwelt in it.
[SUP]36 [/SUP]‘And as for those of you who are left, I will send faintness into their hearts in the lands of their enemies;
the sound of a shaken leaf shall cause them to flee; they shall flee as though fleeing from a sword, and they shall fall when no one pursues. [SUP]37 [/SUP]They shall stumble over one another, as it were before a sword, when no one pursues; and you shall have no power to stand before your enemies. [SUP]38 [/SUP]You shall perish among the nations, and the land of your enemies shall eat you up. [SUP]39 [/SUP]And those of you who are left shall waste away in their iniquity in your enemies’ lands; also in their fathers’ iniquities, which are with them, they shall waste away.
But God makes a promise to them. This is the promise which will still happen, if Israel repents. As God requires them to do.
[SUP]40 [/SUP]‘But if they confess their iniquity and the iniquity of their fathers, with their unfaithfulness in which they were unfaithful to Me, and that they also have walked contrary to Me, [SUP]41 [/SUP]and that I also have walked contrary to them and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if their uncircumcised hearts are humbled, and they accept their guilt—
[SUP]42 [/SUP]then I will remember My covenant with Jacob, and My covenant with Isaac and My covenant with Abraham I will remember; I will remember the land.
Now according to some, This covenant no longer stands, and even if Israel did repent God would not remember his covenant with the fathers,
This is not true, if it is God does not hold to his covenants,
"God did not take anything away from Israel."
Matthew 21:43 Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, producing the fruit of it.
Matthew 21:43 Therefore I say to you, the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people, producing the fruit of it.
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They did not accept God's word that was sent through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, so He gave it to the Gentile nation that would accept it and spread the good word. Through this Israel will see their error and come to repent in the end. Hince when the time of the gentiles comes to fulfillment, spreading the good news to all the nations.
The Jews not coming to repentance tell the end is evident in scripture by the vision of a third temple Ezekiel was shown, and the Jews saying that when the temple is rebuilt they will restart animal sacrifices, and the anti-Christ putting an end to it again.
The Jews not coming to repentance tell the end is evident in scripture by the vision of a third temple Ezekiel was shown, and the Jews saying that when the temple is rebuilt they will restart animal sacrifices, and the anti-Christ putting an end to it again.
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In the letter to the Romans we are now studying the cov. dealings of God with Israel. God has restored them in unbelief but will give the gift of faith to the elect ones, Eze, . the 144,000 Jews (general meaning, decedents of Abraham) will be saved after the Rapture of the Church of God out of this world. Then all the nation of Israel will be saved as they see Jesus coming to earth, to Jerusalem, to rule the world. Love to all,Hoffco
Those verses remind me of the 70 years of Jerimiah 25 where they were taken away and the land rested while they were in captivity. And yes, He brought them back and then about 500 years later (I will not get specific about how many years) they killed His Son. Yes, I believe that if the individual Israelite/Jew repents that he/she will still be saved.
If you're asking if I am waiting for a third, physical temple - No.
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I did not ask you this. I asked you if they would be returned to the land God promised their fathers.
I never asked you this either..
it is obvious yuo did not read anything I said. How can we communicate if your unwilling to read anything?
ps. When Israel was returned they were still in sin, The fact is, AD 70 was also a fulfillment of lev 26, Everything god said would happen did happen.
I never asked you this either..
it is obvious yuo did not read anything I said. How can we communicate if your unwilling to read anything?
ps. When Israel was returned they were still in sin, The fact is, AD 70 was also a fulfillment of lev 26, Everything god said would happen did happen.
I agree, that the 144,000 are from the tribes of Israel. I know that some believe that the 144,000 can consist of any number of Christians, but I do not believe that at all. However, how many tribes remained after the resurrection?
And I definitely do not refuse the words of Jesus that say the Kingdom has been taken from them and given to those producing the fruit of it (the Christians/Gentiles).
Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
And I definitely do not refuse the words of Jesus that say the Kingdom has been taken from them and given to those producing the fruit of it (the Christians/Gentiles).
Acts 13:48 When the Gentiles heard this, they began rejoicing and glorifying the word of the Lord; and as many as had been appointed to eternal life believed.
I would appreciate if you would stop suggesting that I am not reading what you are posting! I just don't agree with all of it. And I did not say that you asked about a third temple, I was just clearing it up since a lot of people believe that as well. I do not believe that every one that has Israelite blood/ancestry will be saved. I think that is a misinterpretation of scripture.
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Nowhere in Romans 11 does it say God will take the kingdom back away from the gentiles. It talks about what I said early the word of Christ and what He did for us for salvation was given to the gentiles to cause jealousy amongst the Jews to realize the truth and come back to God. For it says in verse 23 that if they continue in unbelief they will not be grafted in.