Dispensationalism
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I remember last year I was accused on here of following x-y-z people (names I hadn't even heard of before). The truth is, I didn't align myself with any particular camp, I just read the scriptures at home (on my own) and my views were a result of that (Holy Spirit guidance). Obviously there will be others who get the same interpretation, but that does not make me a follower of those people. What if said person had another completely alien view - is it to be assumed that I agree with that view also, since we both agree on one interpretation? That's scary because it leads to false assumptions.
1 Cor 1:12-13: "Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
On the other side, there are some who align themselves with a particular camp, and in order to keep their chosen view they must then twist hundreds of scriptures to make them fit with said view. For example, with the preterist view there is one particular scripture that they claim is talking about Jesus when in fact it's talking of Antichrist. How can one get the two confused? It's because if that particular verse is not talking of Jesus then it shoots down their view and they don't want that. It's clear to see the verse is speaking of Antichrist without aligning yourself with any chosen view... but some must twist scriptures to favor their views, rather than change their view to fit with the scriptures. Very sad.
End of rant, just wanted to get that out there
1 Cor 1:12-13: "Now I say this, that each of you says, “I am of Paul,” or “I am of Apollos,” or “I am of Cephas,” or “I am of Christ.” Is Christ divided? Was Paul crucified for you? Or were you baptized in the name of Paul?"
On the other side, there are some who align themselves with a particular camp, and in order to keep their chosen view they must then twist hundreds of scriptures to make them fit with said view. For example, with the preterist view there is one particular scripture that they claim is talking about Jesus when in fact it's talking of Antichrist. How can one get the two confused? It's because if that particular verse is not talking of Jesus then it shoots down their view and they don't want that. It's clear to see the verse is speaking of Antichrist without aligning yourself with any chosen view... but some must twist scriptures to favor their views, rather than change their view to fit with the scriptures. Very sad.
End of rant, just wanted to get that out there
God says the end will be as it was with Noah. God told Noah to build an ark. What would have happened if Noah didn't believe he'd see the flood and didn't build the boat? Perhaps God would have enabled Noah to dogpaddle all those days. Or would Noah have drowned with the rest?
For sure we are to be spared God's wrath. And God will gather us before He pours out His wrath. But God also says that we will see judgment. The events depicted in the trumpets and seals are God's judgment and as such we will see these events play out, even tho we will not see the events of the bowls (which are clearly identified as His wrath).
God told Noah to survive the time of judgment by building the ark. Think about what comes with the judgments - famine, pestilence, great upheavals... Perhaps God might want us to prepare for these things by stockpiling food and medicine and shelters? Would you stockpile these things if you didn't think you were going to need them?
Too, there are a lot fence-sitter Christians who rely on escaping the time of judgment. When what they thought about God fails, are they going to lose faith in their beliefs or play catch-up on what they need to do? I have no doubt that crossnote and Ahwatuki will step up and do what needs to be done. But unfortunately, there are a whole lot of milk drinking Christians who won't. Remember, Jesus says that many will abandon Him because they aren't prepared. Should we not address this group in the hopes of getting them prepared?
We will see judgment, and many will turn because they didn't think they would see it. That is the pitfall of promoting an un-supported escape clause.
For sure we are to be spared God's wrath. And God will gather us before He pours out His wrath. But God also says that we will see judgment. The events depicted in the trumpets and seals are God's judgment and as such we will see these events play out, even tho we will not see the events of the bowls (which are clearly identified as His wrath).
God told Noah to survive the time of judgment by building the ark. Think about what comes with the judgments - famine, pestilence, great upheavals... Perhaps God might want us to prepare for these things by stockpiling food and medicine and shelters? Would you stockpile these things if you didn't think you were going to need them?
Too, there are a lot fence-sitter Christians who rely on escaping the time of judgment. When what they thought about God fails, are they going to lose faith in their beliefs or play catch-up on what they need to do? I have no doubt that crossnote and Ahwatuki will step up and do what needs to be done. But unfortunately, there are a whole lot of milk drinking Christians who won't. Remember, Jesus says that many will abandon Him because they aren't prepared. Should we not address this group in the hopes of getting them prepared?
We will see judgment, and many will turn because they didn't think they would see it. That is the pitfall of promoting an un-supported escape clause.