Does God pay bills?

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tdrew777

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All of what you posted will soon be burned in the fire.
Wow!

Give me ONE thing we need it for? Just ONE....
What is the '"it" to which you are referring? Money? As I stated above, money is worth nothing, except that others are willing to accept it and give the product of work for it.

Work is not the issue. Working just for survival is!
Money is a measure of work performed and a measure of the work that went into producing something.

What you posted helps none of those 30000 children who by your belief is punished by God.
I wasn't trying to help children by posting on cc. No children are punished by God because of my belief. People who go into eternity with a corrupt character, having refused to accept a holy character offered by the Holy Spirit - those are the ones who will know punishment. Not because of my belief, because of their evil characters.

We haven't changed since men liked shiny rocks! And now it's colorful paper!
Agreed. Guilty as charged. I like shiny rocks and colorful paper.

We are the rulers of this planet! Is there a law against us in simply giving away what we have for all to enjoy?
No. Go right ahead. Nothing I have posted would ever prevent you from giving away all you have. You should not demand others, especially not unbelievers, to freely give away all they have. You should pay them when they provide you a good or service. There is nothing spiritual about withholding just payment.

Now of all the things you enjoy, did you make ANY of it? The person who made the phone is dead. Do you believe his family is still enjoying the royalties from this invention? Or the lighbulb, or the car, or the internet and wifi?
There is a good point in there, somewhere. Let's see if I can find it.
Consider a pencil. The metal from the eraser may have been mined in Africa, and transported to a factory in your home state. The wood may have been from trees planted carefully thirty years ago in Oregon, processed in Washington and transported again to the factory. The lead came from?????? The rubber came from?????? How any people willingly worked so that you could enjoy your pencil? Not one of them worked because they wanted a pencil! They produced it for you! You hold the pencil that others worked for because you gave them money. Men work for the good of others for money even when altruism fails! And now yo would withhold payment and call it spirituality? Withholding just payment from all of those workers - who worked so that YOU could be happy - is robbery, not spirituality.


Most people don't have a clue as to how these things are made, they only know that money gives access to them.
Aren't you glad that, thanks to money, you did not have to make microchips from the silicon in your yard in order to enjoy a computer? Others did it for you. And you can do work for them, by earning money to give them. At whatever jkob your heart enjoys! You don't HAVE to mine silicon, if you don't want to!

I ask you if you don't mind saying it. What is your profession?
That is sensitive information.
 
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I'm sure most are aware of the ways of the world.

I consider my journey and the season in which i came to Abide is all part of Greater GOOD.

I do not understand much and choose to Trust the Almighty GOD.

What i do know is that we can burn all the money in the world and nothing but a big fire would happen.

It would be the heart and minds of men that serve it causing problems.. not the money itself.
 
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Getting rid of money even solves this problem. There is no argument among Christians and Muslims without the collection plate! We will all serve God in spirit and truth.
So… Jesus being the Son of God, that's nothing.
The atonement by the blood of Jesus, that's nothing.
The Koranic condemnations of Christians because we worship the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and Mary, the Mother of God, that''s nothing.
Is your point that if it weren't for the collection plate, Muslims would receive a regenerated character because of the atonement offered by the blood of Jesus?
Or is your point that if it weren't for the collection plate, Christians would give up our freedom in Christ to submit to the rituals of Islam?
 
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Wow!


What is the '"it" to which you are referring? Money? As I stated above, money is worth nothing, except that others are willing to accept it and give the product of work for it.


Money is a measure of work performed and a measure of the work that went into producing something.


I wasn't trying to help children by posting on cc. No children are punished by God because of my belief. People who go into eternity with a corrupt character, having refused to accept a holy character offered by the Holy Spirit - those are the ones who will know punishment. Not because of my belief, because of their evil characters.


Agreed. Guilty as charged. I like shiny rocks and colorful paper.


No. Go right ahead. Nothing I have posted would ever prevent you from giving away all you have. You should not demand others, especially not unbelievers, to freely give away all they have. You should pay them when they provide you a good or service. There is nothing spiritual about withholding just payment.


There is a good point in there, somewhere. Let's see if I can find it.
Consider a pencil. The metal from the eraser may have been mined in Africa, and transported to a factory in your home state. The wood may have been from trees planted carefully thirty years ago in Oregon, processed in Washington and transported again to the factory. The lead came from?????? The rubber came from?????? How any people willingly worked so that you could enjoy your pencil? Not one of them worked because they wanted a pencil! They produced it for you! You hold the pencil that others worked for because you gave them money. Men work for the good of others for money even when altruism fails! And now yo would withhold payment and call it spirituality? Withholding just payment from all of those workers - who worked so that YOU could be happy - is robbery, not spirituality.



Aren't you glad that, thanks to money, you did not have to make microchips from the silicon in your yard in order to enjoy a computer? Others did it for you. And you can do work for them, by earning money to give them. At whatever jkob your heart enjoys! You don't HAVE to mine silicon, if you don't want to!



That is sensitive information.
People do not make microchips or even pencils any longer. Machines do!

This is not about my happiness. I could get a job. I live in america and mcdonalds is always hiring somewhere. I choose not to work. This is about those who don't have an opportunity to work even at a fast food place!

Now one more time. WE ONLY WORK THESE MEDIAL JOBS IN ORDER TO ACQUIRE WHAT WE REALLY WANT. MERCHANDISE!

Most things you can think of are made by machine and ever expanding technologies. It is still more expensive to produce a cassette tape than a cd. But they charge more now.

Now it is hard to convince people that getting rid of money will usher in the kingdom of God because most of the people of influence who are making enough are comfortable. But again this system will burn.

I don't want money. Give everyone what they want and you will eliminate 98% of the jobs in the world. THAT'S honest compensation for all!

I don't want to get personal again but does your job and a paycheck take care of you or does God?

And if it is God, does He do so through your job?

And if He does is it also safe to say that those 30000 children that died today because of simple starvation, does NOT have God's blessing and favor because jobs aren't even available for them nor their parents?

To me this is confusion and double mindedness.

And for this very reason God gave man 6 days to work (6000 years) but set aside 1 and blessed it.

His TRUE sabbath day is upon us, and when this fiat currency system falls, it will never rise again!

Why? Because there are too many empty houses, too many phones, too much food, too many cars, too much internet, too much knowledge, and not enough love!
 
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So… Jesus being the Son of God, that's nothing.
The atonement by the blood of Jesus, that's nothing.
The Koranic condemnations of Christians because we worship the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son and Mary, the Mother of God, that''s nothing.
Is your point that if it weren't for the collection plate, Muslims would receive a regenerated character because of the atonement offered by the blood of Jesus?
Or is your point that if it weren't for the collection plate, Christians would give up our freedom in Christ to submit to the rituals of Islam?
I'm saying that if both Jesus and Allah has to pay bills, then to them and their disciples, the bill collector is the boss!

You show Christ in you by helping your neighbor.
 
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I'm sure most are aware of the ways of the world.

I consider my journey and the season in which i came to Abide is all part of Greater GOOD.

I do not understand much and choose to Trust the Almighty GOD.

What i do know is that we can burn all the money in the world and nothing but a big fire would happen.

It would be the heart and minds of men that serve it causing problems.. not the money itself.
In this, you have spoken wisely. That is why the economic collapse will expose the hearts of every man.
 
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God said that on the 7th day, even the animals will rest! How is this possible but through the fall of the world's economy?

Proverbs 15:17

17* Better is a dinner of herbs where love is, than a stalled ox and hatred therewith.

Proverbs 17:1

17Better is a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices with strife
 
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Tintin

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Again? Really? Did we need more of your posts?
 
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tdrew777

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Good Bye! Be blessed! Work and eat!
 
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Good Bye! Be blessed! Work and eat!
Romans 4:4-5

4* Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt

5* But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.


Isaiah 55:1-2

1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price

2* Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
 
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For the first time in our recorded history, the monetary system of the world is not backed by any precious metal. It is completely fiat or paper currency.

Only three things give this facade its strength. Oil, the military and our lukewarm attitude steeped in ignorance.

#Goddontpaynobills
 

loveme1

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For the first time in our recorded history, the monetary system of the world is not backed by any precious metal. It is completely fiat or paper currency.

Only three things give this facade its strength. Oil, the military and our lukewarm attitude steeped in ignorance.

#Goddontpaynobills
No wonder those with lots of paper gave high price for gold.
 
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Tintin

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Spirit, I'm convinced from your myriad of posts, pretty much all on the same topic, that you either have a very odd interpretation of the Bible or some serious mental issues. You're not focusing on the basic tenants of the faith.