Eve & the talking Snake
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2 Kings 17:23 until the LORD removed them from his presence, as he had warned through all his servants the prophets. So the people of Israel were taken from their homeland into exile in Assyria, and they are still there.
Exodus 33:14 And he said, “My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest
Psalm 16:8-11 I have set the Lord always before me; because he is at my right hand, I shall not be shaken. Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure. For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption. You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore
Read up in your Bible about the Lords presences it is the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. When we trust and follow him there is a peace that the world can not know this one of the ways he shows his presences. When we turn from him he lifts this and Cain shows this because he becomes fearful.
Exodus 33:14 And he said, “My presence will go with you, and I will give you rest
Psalm 16:8-11 I have set the Lord always before me; because he is at my right hand, I shall not be shaken. Therefore my heart is glad, and my whole being rejoices; my flesh also dwells secure. For you will not abandon my soul to Sheol, or let your holy one see corruption. You make known to me the path of life; in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore
Read up in your Bible about the Lords presences it is the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. When we trust and follow him there is a peace that the world can not know this one of the ways he shows his presences. When we turn from him he lifts this and Cain shows this because he becomes fearful.
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I was thinking of the scripture story of Adam & Eve and I got into some very deep thought (almost drowned in it 
) When the snake began to speak to Eve, it does not appear that Eve was shocked or surprised that it was speaking to her. If something that normally doesn't talk begins talking to you, you'd definitely be asking questions and not have such a casual conversation with it. Considering this thought, did snakes, or other animals have the ability to speak? From my understanding if they did not, how did Eve not act confused or surprised when the snake spoke to her? Or was she so naive (no offense ladies) that she didn't think about it? The second thing, I was considering that while this whole conversation was going on, where in the world was Adam? Was he hanging out at a different place in the garden? Scriptures clearly demonstrate that Eve was having a conversation with the snake, it does not specify Adam being present. Or was he there and as usual for men not listening? hahaha. I understand that this does not in any way add or take away from my salvation, it is just an interesting thought I had and I was wondering what other individuals thought.
God Bless!
) When the snake began to speak to Eve, it does not appear that Eve was shocked or surprised that it was speaking to her. If something that normally doesn't talk begins talking to you, you'd definitely be asking questions and not have such a casual conversation with it. Considering this thought, did snakes, or other animals have the ability to speak? From my understanding if they did not, how did Eve not act confused or surprised when the snake spoke to her? Or was she so naive (no offense ladies) that she didn't think about it? The second thing, I was considering that while this whole conversation was going on, where in the world was Adam? Was he hanging out at a different place in the garden? Scriptures clearly demonstrate that Eve was having a conversation with the snake, it does not specify Adam being present. Or was he there and as usual for men not listening? hahaha. I understand that this does not in any way add or take away from my salvation, it is just an interesting thought I had and I was wondering what other individuals thought.God Bless!
Animals talk in other places in the Holy Bible, too.
Adam & Eve also talked directly to God, as He was in the flesh with them.
Thus, it would have been perfectly normal as they had nothing else to compare like we do today...
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Yes. With every ounce of my being. It is the only way I can be truly accountable.
Apart from Christ, aren't we each our own king? Devouring our self and others? Never taking responsibility?
I believe Satan is the bad half of every person. Whether that's spiritual or physical in effect.
When you see the abomination that causes desolation standing in the temple, run.
However, I do not believe that a person is in danger of not being saved if they don't believe this way.
Chalking sin up to an external scapegoat is the only way most people can deal with it.
"And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?"
But we've been taught to read it as if it weren't a parable. We think He was asking a rhetorical question as it appears in text, but it was a parable, but He was actually asking them to consider - how can a man fix himself.
"You can't even fix yourselves, so how can you even know who a third party enemy is?"
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Apart from Christ, aren't we each our own king? Devouring our self and others? Never taking responsibility?
I believe Satan is the bad half of every person. Whether that's spiritual or physical in effect.
When you see the abomination that causes desolation standing in the temple, run.
However, I do not believe that a person is in danger of not being saved if they don't believe this way.
Chalking sin up to an external scapegoat is the only way most people can deal with it.
"And he called them unto him, and said unto them in parables, How can Satan cast out Satan?"
But we've been taught to read it as if it weren't a parable. We think He was asking a rhetorical question as it appears in text, but it was a parable, but He was actually asking them to consider - how can a man fix himself.
"You can't even fix yourselves, so how can you even know who a third party enemy is?"
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But when he had turned about and looked on his disciples, he rebuked Peter, saying, Get thee behind me, Satan: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but the things that be of men.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
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case in point...
I blame myself for my transgressions. I have called people stupid before too. But I don't do it anymore because Christ is risen in me.
But you didn't make yourself call me "stupid" did you? Because some "other" devil made you do it.
Doesn't make me mad at you to hear you say that, because like I said, I'm also guilty. But you need to understand the source of your iniquity, just like I need to understand the source of mine.
That came from inside you bro!
I blame myself for my transgressions. I have called people stupid before too. But I don't do it anymore because Christ is risen in me.
But you didn't make yourself call me "stupid" did you? Because some "other" devil made you do it.
Doesn't make me mad at you to hear you say that, because like I said, I'm also guilty. But you need to understand the source of your iniquity, just like I need to understand the source of mine.
That came from inside you bro!
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Well, think about when you are tempted. Do you have some spirit creature standing in front of you speaking?
Where does the urge to ignore a rule really come from?
If that could be considered as "tempted Himself" as you put it, then yes.
He had the urge to sin, and totally repressed it.
That's why He totally blows my mind. Not because of miracles or big promises.
Where does the urge to ignore a rule really come from?
If that could be considered as "tempted Himself" as you put it, then yes.
He had the urge to sin, and totally repressed it.
That's why He totally blows my mind. Not because of miracles or big promises.
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Balaam's Donkey talked, in human-historical times (Num 22).
So, talking animals occur in Scripture, several thousand years later.
perhaps "everybody is correct" -- Enoch1Nine is correct, in that the Serpent's Voice was inside the mind of Eve; but also too Jorina is correct, in the the Serpent's physical body was slithering through the soil.
I.e. the snake was real / physical / corporeal; the Serpent Voice was "psychic" / spiritual.
So, talking animals occur in Scripture, several thousand years later.
perhaps "everybody is correct" -- Enoch1Nine is correct, in that the Serpent's Voice was inside the mind of Eve; but also too Jorina is correct, in the the Serpent's physical body was slithering through the soil.
I.e. the snake was real / physical / corporeal; the Serpent Voice was "psychic" / spiritual.
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1 Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. 2 After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. 3 The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." 4 Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.' " 5 Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. 6 "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: " 'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.' " 7 Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.' " 8 Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. 9 "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." 10 Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.' " 11 Then the devil left him, and angels came and attended him.
So what esoteric interpretation do you have on this?????
So what esoteric interpretation do you have on this?????