Guide for woman's (1 Tim 2:9-15)
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The parable of the tares tells us that many who are not of the church will be found among the church.
You must not let them disillusion you or drive you away. The Forum is a cross sampling of the church, with some seekers and hecklers and heretics in the mix.
Those of us who are here to honor the Lord find you to be a blessing and appreciate you. As you have noted, there is much less ugliness here than elsewhere. When ugliness is encountered; it is easier to handle if we view it as an indication that the responsible person needs the love of the Lord and we have opportunity to be used in that way.
You are a lovely sister in the Lord; and you are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!!
You must not let them disillusion you or drive you away. The Forum is a cross sampling of the church, with some seekers and hecklers and heretics in the mix.
Those of us who are here to honor the Lord find you to be a blessing and appreciate you. As you have noted, there is much less ugliness here than elsewhere. When ugliness is encountered; it is easier to handle if we view it as an indication that the responsible person needs the love of the Lord and we have opportunity to be used in that way.
You are a lovely sister in the Lord; and you are VERY MUCH APPRECIATED!!
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Wow, I sure didnt post that expecting any kind replies coming back my way for that post, and you are always behind the scenes giving me a kind word of encouragement, so thank you Bro MarcR. And I never knew that sort of thing at any other forum (no matter how long I was there) verses here (no matter how short a time I have been here).
This place has some really great souls, some I speak to in private and others I have not (at least yet) but their way is such a blessing and they have actually gotten my attention.
There really is less ugliness here, I can attest to that.
God bless you Bro, thanks for your kind words
This place has some really great souls, some I speak to in private and others I have not (at least yet) but their way is such a blessing and they have actually gotten my attention.
There really is less ugliness here, I can attest to that.
God bless you Bro, thanks for your kind words
J
What about the husband who doesn't obey the Word? What is God's instruction to wives in such circumstances?
I Peter chapter 2
[18] Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
[19] For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
[20] For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
[21] For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
[22] Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
[23] Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
[24] Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
[25] For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
I Peter chapter 3
[1] Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
[2] While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
[3] Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
[4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
[5] For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
[6] Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
Please notice that I Peter 3:1 begins with the word "likewise". IOW, contextually, Peter was instructing Christian wives how to deal with "froward" husbands who cause them to "suffer wrongfully" in the same manner in which Christian servants and Christ Himself suffered. Even in such situations, wives are instructed to "be in subjection to their own husbands" and to seek to win them by their godly "conversation" or behavior WITHOUT THE WORD. In like manner to Paul's admonition in the OP which was met with mockery and scorn, Peter instructed Christian women to put their focus on INWARD "adorning" as opposed to outward "adorning" and specifically in relation to "the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is in the sight of God of great price". Yes, in such manner "the holy women of old adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands".
Anyhow, as a husband myself, I certainly always strive to lay my own life down not only for my own wife, but also for my own children and all others as well, but even if I didn't, then my wife, my children and others would still be accountable to God for the manner in which they relate to me. IOW, one person's sins doesn't alleviate any others from their own commanded obedience unto the Lord. Hopefully, you, those who "liked" your comments and all others who read this thread will recognize that such is true in the light of God Inspired scripture.
I Peter chapter 2
[18] Servants, be subject to your masters with all fear; not only to the good and gentle, but also to the froward.
[19] For this is thankworthy, if a man for conscience toward God endure grief, suffering wrongfully.
[20] For what glory is it, if, when ye be buffeted for your faults, ye shall take it patiently? but if, when ye do well, and suffer for it, ye take it patiently, this is acceptable with God.
[21] For even hereunto were ye called: because Christ also suffered for us, leaving us an example, that ye should follow his steps:
[22] Who did no sin, neither was guile found in his mouth:
[23] Who, when he was reviled, reviled not again; when he suffered, he threatened not; but committed himself to him that judgeth righteously:
[24] Who his own self bare our sins in his own body on the tree, that we, being dead to sins, should live unto righteousness: by whose stripes ye were healed.
[25] For ye were as sheep going astray; but are now returned unto the Shepherd and Bishop of your souls.
I Peter chapter 3
[1] Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands; that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word be won by the conversation of the wives;
[2] While they behold your chaste conversation coupled with fear.
[3] Whose adorning let it not be that outward adorning of plaiting the hair, and of wearing of gold, or of putting on of apparel;
[4] But let it be the hidden man of the heart, in that which is not corruptible, even the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit, which is in the sight of God of great price.
[5] For after this manner in the old time the holy women also, who trusted in God, adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands:
[6] Even as Sara obeyed Abraham, calling him lord: whose daughters ye are, as long as ye do well, and are not afraid with any amazement.
Please notice that I Peter 3:1 begins with the word "likewise". IOW, contextually, Peter was instructing Christian wives how to deal with "froward" husbands who cause them to "suffer wrongfully" in the same manner in which Christian servants and Christ Himself suffered. Even in such situations, wives are instructed to "be in subjection to their own husbands" and to seek to win them by their godly "conversation" or behavior WITHOUT THE WORD. In like manner to Paul's admonition in the OP which was met with mockery and scorn, Peter instructed Christian women to put their focus on INWARD "adorning" as opposed to outward "adorning" and specifically in relation to "the ornament of a meek and quiet spirit which is in the sight of God of great price". Yes, in such manner "the holy women of old adorned themselves, being in subjection unto their own husbands".
Anyhow, as a husband myself, I certainly always strive to lay my own life down not only for my own wife, but also for my own children and all others as well, but even if I didn't, then my wife, my children and others would still be accountable to God for the manner in which they relate to me. IOW, one person's sins doesn't alleviate any others from their own commanded obedience unto the Lord. Hopefully, you, those who "liked" your comments and all others who read this thread will recognize that such is true in the light of God Inspired scripture.
So if your daughter was being battered by her husband, you would have advised her to stay with him, submit and keep quiet until she is killed, while her children also are getting abused?
Seriously Guys, do you really believe this is what the Word of God is saying? Just wondering is this what you really believe?
About smaller disagreements, I do believe the wife should pass over gracefully though and cause her husband to realize he is mistaken through longsuffering.
Seriously Guys, do you really believe this is what the Word of God is saying? Just wondering is this what you really believe?
About smaller disagreements, I do believe the wife should pass over gracefully though and cause her husband to realize he is mistaken through longsuffering.
I have not read all the discussion that took place after my last post, I actually am getting ready for work now anyways 
Anywho, you think that Gods word can change with time? I dont believe there was ever a time man was aroused by jewelry The bible actually has many verses on jewelry. Do not collect treasures on earth but in Heaven. God talked often about how He did not like vanity or materialism. Yeah I agree, He probly would tell you to put down your cell phone, but that doesnt mean He changed anything else, what is the difference between these two possessions?
Also I was thinking the other day that some people may believe that by talking about Gods word and if we are really following it, they are being condemned or something. Everyone of us are unrigthteous, and no one is really accepting Gods will. How many of us spend money we dont need on frivolous junk, instead of giving it to the needy? That is 100% what God told us to do, but none of us are doing it. Why do we ignore parts of Gods will, but then celebrate the things that we do follow? This is not aimed at women, it is aimed at any Christian reading it. None of us, including me, actually follow Gods word 100%, and then we try to justify why we dont. Dont you ever think about how crazy this is?
Ive been thinking about this alot since this thread came up, and Ive noticed that many people actually get angry if you bring this up, I have found one person who actually talked about it without getting mad. It is totally true that there has only
been one man who has been perfect
Anywho, you think that Gods word can change with time? I dont believe there was ever a time man was aroused by jewelry
The bible actually has many verses on jewelry. Do not collect treasures on earth but in Heaven. God talked often about how He did not like vanity or materialism. Yeah I agree, He probly would tell you to put down your cell phone, but that doesnt mean He changed anything else, what is the difference between these two possessions? Also I was thinking the other day that some people may believe that by talking about Gods word and if we are really following it, they are being condemned or something. Everyone of us are unrigthteous, and no one is really accepting Gods will. How many of us spend money we dont need on frivolous junk, instead of giving it to the needy? That is 100% what God told us to do, but none of us are doing it. Why do we ignore parts of Gods will, but then celebrate the things that we do follow? This is not aimed at women, it is aimed at any Christian reading it. None of us, including me, actually follow Gods word 100%, and then we try to justify why we dont. Dont you ever think about how crazy this is?
Ive been thinking about this alot since this thread came up, and Ive noticed that many people actually get angry if you bring this up, I have found one person who actually talked about it without getting mad. It is totally true that there has only
been one man who has been perfect
Actually the bible tells everyone who is being tormented to allow it to happen and that those who endure in His name are blessed. Men are told that when another man strikes them, to give them the other cheek, we are told that those who are to be captured, to let them be captured, and those ho are to be killed, to let them be killed. Christians are warned that they will suffer for Christ, be hated because of Him, and even killed, and that He did not bring His followers peace, but a sword.
The idea that a woman should endure suffering is not for women only, its for every Christian ever anywhere. Christ was not spared from persecution and suffering, He endured it with faith in the end. Shouldnt we not try to be like Christ was on earth?
I dont ever think its wrong that anyone say that God would want you to endure no matter what, because thats what Christ did, and we are even warned that one day we will. Of course I absolutely am not okay with abusive husbands. But I do believe that Gods love reaches out to those who endure doing what is right by God. One day we will be gathered up byu the world and killed in His name, and we will not be spared from those horrors on that day.
The idea that a woman should endure suffering is not for women only, its for every Christian ever anywhere. Christ was not spared from persecution and suffering, He endured it with faith in the end. Shouldnt we not try to be like Christ was on earth?
I dont ever think its wrong that anyone say that God would want you to endure no matter what, because thats what Christ did, and we are even warned that one day we will. Of course I absolutely am not okay with abusive husbands. But I do believe that Gods love reaches out to those who endure doing what is right by God. One day we will be gathered up byu the world and killed in His name, and we will not be spared from those horrors on that day.
V
In that vein, Yeraza_Bats, if someone steals your car, do not file a report with police, but give to the thief your house also. And if a man at your place of employment knocks you out of the way and takes your work utensils, your computer or your tools of craft, give to him your credit card also so he can buy some more stuff on your dime. And if you happen to have a girlfriend who begins pulling your hair out by the roots and smacks you hard in the face because you "make her mad", then turn to her your other cheek so she can smack you hard on the other side of your head. And when you get married, you can teach your children the same so they can be taken advantage of all their lives as a testimony.... GOD FORBID! GOD FORBID!
Yeraza_Bats, you are young and I encourage you to get more teaching on creating boundaries in the name of Jesus. Jesus did not live a life of walking around like a weak worm turning His cheek for everyone to abuse. HE FLED THE SCENE! When it was time for Him to die for our sins, yes He submitted then for God's purpose.
Brother, "turn the other cheek" in effect means don't seek revenge and be more understanding toward people's needs rather than focus on your self all the time. THAT'S IT! Jesus gave simple instructions for all of us to learn to live in peace. He doesn't expect us to crawl along in life and be a worm for everyone to walk on. In fact, He said STAND! If all we were called to be is lowly worms for others to squash, NOBDOY would come to Christ. He draws us to Him by offering FREEDOM and PEACE and JOY and GRACE and LOVE.
What you have suggested is off-base, son. Keep seeking God on the matter and let the Holy Spirit give you wisdom on it. Grace to you.
Yeraza_Bats, you are young and I encourage you to get more teaching on creating boundaries in the name of Jesus. Jesus did not live a life of walking around like a weak worm turning His cheek for everyone to abuse. HE FLED THE SCENE! When it was time for Him to die for our sins, yes He submitted then for God's purpose.
Brother, "turn the other cheek" in effect means don't seek revenge and be more understanding toward people's needs rather than focus on your self all the time. THAT'S IT! Jesus gave simple instructions for all of us to learn to live in peace. He doesn't expect us to crawl along in life and be a worm for everyone to walk on. In fact, He said STAND! If all we were called to be is lowly worms for others to squash, NOBDOY would come to Christ. He draws us to Him by offering FREEDOM and PEACE and JOY and GRACE and LOVE.
What you have suggested is off-base, son. Keep seeking God on the matter and let the Holy Spirit give you wisdom on it. Grace to you.
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Yeraza_Bats, I want to add that if we do anything in our own strength, no matter how much we think we're doing God a service, unless the Holy Spirit speak to you in a moment, you will accomplish nothing for the Lord. Unless the Lord build the house, we labor in vain doing "good" things on our own. Please be careful what you tell others regarding violent abuse as you put their lives in jeopardy, as well as their children.
An old man sat quietly rocking on his front porch when a young couple approached him.
“Sir”, the husband said, “We’re thinking of moving to this town, and wondered if you could give us an idea of what the people are like here.”
“Well”, the old man replied, “What were they like where you came from?”
Both the husband and wife enthusiastically answered that they were friendly, outgoing, and always ready to lend a helping hand.
“Yeah, they’re pretty much the same way here.”, said the old gent.
A few hours later another young couple drove up and they too asked the same question of the elderly man.
“Sir”, the husband said, “We’re thinking of moving to this town, and wondered if you could give us an idea of what the people are like here.”
“Well”, the old man replied, “What were they like where you came from?”
Both the husband and wife snapped back that “those people” were very unfriendly, secretive and reclusive, and never seemed to care a thing about anyone but themselves.
“Yeah, they’re pretty much the same way here.”, replied the old gent.
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Very often where we are is what we make of it. (And, wherever ya go, there you are.)
“Sir”, the husband said, “We’re thinking of moving to this town, and wondered if you could give us an idea of what the people are like here.”
“Well”, the old man replied, “What were they like where you came from?”
Both the husband and wife enthusiastically answered that they were friendly, outgoing, and always ready to lend a helping hand.
“Yeah, they’re pretty much the same way here.”, said the old gent.
A few hours later another young couple drove up and they too asked the same question of the elderly man.
“Sir”, the husband said, “We’re thinking of moving to this town, and wondered if you could give us an idea of what the people are like here.”
“Well”, the old man replied, “What were they like where you came from?”
Both the husband and wife snapped back that “those people” were very unfriendly, secretive and reclusive, and never seemed to care a thing about anyone but themselves.
“Yeah, they’re pretty much the same way here.”, replied the old gent.
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Very often where we are is what we make of it. (And, wherever ya go, there you are.)
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Where did I say that? Nowhere, of course. My daughters are 12 and 9 and neither are married nor do they have children. Anyhow, there are laws in this land and if a husband gets physically abusive, then I'd suggest legal action and protection. Must people always go to the worst case scenarios in order to somehow dismiss what the scriptures actually teach?
J
Jesus offers us FREEDOM from sin (which is basically what His Name means) and PEACE with God via repentance and the JOY spoken of in scripture is very often related to the future as in Jesus' example of a woman in labor pains who AFTER THE CHILD IS BORN has such JOY that she forgets all of the pain which she experienced leading up to the birth. IOW, similar to a woman who is giving birth, we are called to SUFFER FOR CHRIST and when He returns we'll experience such JOY that all of the sufferings will greatly pale in comparison. Even Christ, FOR THE JOY THAT WAS SET BEFORE HIM, first endured the cross. If people don't want to come to such a Christ, then they're better off staying away than accepting some worldly substitute.
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Maybe often, but surely not always
I sure dont know anyone who is that dumb to believe that they are not in every place they go though.
And personally wouldnt ask some strange old man on a rocking chair how people are anywhere
Its just that sometimes we know there can be more of the worst of them habitating in one place moreso then at another at any given time.
There is good and bad company.
Thats why forum administrators (depending on their level of integrity and oversight) utilize bans because even they know this.
The ignore button is definately a great feature which can prove useful in effectually making a place what one wills it to be as well.
But the overall online experience (over a period of ten years) is probably what I stand in doubt of more in respects to its fruitfulness all the way across the board. It seems to me to have been pretty much in vain in more then few ways when I really look at it.
And dont get me wrong, Im not crying over it I am just stating that this is the end of the road for me with all christian forums, and I will consider it the Lords will to bring this chapter of my online life to a close if and when the time comes. I find it far easier to deal with it when the descisions are made for me in these kinds of things (then me making them for myself) because I always stand in doubt of myself in respects to decisions.
And He has taught me some valuable lessons with it (over the years) so I certainly wouldnt go away empty handed.
However, being in between a rock and a hard place often with being disabled and having limited mobility can be very isolating for me (which does stink). But thats where real life freinds (or brothers and sisters) in Jesus Christ would definately be a plus over internet ones.
The forums do help me pass the time (especially in respects to boredom) and because I really dont watch TV and so thats what is difficult in making such a choice for myself, but the availble choices (which are left) just seem so insanely unhealthy that its just no longer desirable to me to return to them.
But "talking theology" (as one might call it) and on one level did begin to serve both distract me from a thing but also occupy me against others. But I had been thinking of my former days before being online (at all) and in short from where it starts (whether offline, or on) in both places (within religious circles) it just seems to degrade into something it never started out in. That was probaly a little vague, I did attempt to articulate but Im not so good at that.
Anyway, been doing this for so long after having moved down south for not being connected to/ having any /or knowing real life freinds (or real life) brothers and sisters in Christ, however you regard it.
Beyond just the "typing of words to" each other kinds of freinds/brother/sisters.
Usually one thing will wade and decrease and something else will come in (and increase) and I am still somewhat waiting on what that will be, but I am hoping something a little more desirable will arrive on the scenes here. I need a change.
But this forum is still the better of most of them out there, it just is.
I sure dont know anyone who is that dumb to believe that they are not in every place they go though.
And personally wouldnt ask some strange old man on a rocking chair how people are anywhere
Its just that sometimes we know there can be more of the worst of them habitating in one place moreso then at another at any given time.
There is good and bad company.
Thats why forum administrators (depending on their level of integrity and oversight) utilize bans because even they know this.
The ignore button is definately a great feature which can prove useful in effectually making a place what one wills it to be as well.
But the overall online experience (over a period of ten years) is probably what I stand in doubt of more in respects to its fruitfulness all the way across the board. It seems to me to have been pretty much in vain in more then few ways when I really look at it.
And dont get me wrong, Im not crying over it I am just stating that this is the end of the road for me with all christian forums, and I will consider it the Lords will to bring this chapter of my online life to a close if and when the time comes. I find it far easier to deal with it when the descisions are made for me in these kinds of things (then me making them for myself) because I always stand in doubt of myself in respects to decisions.
And He has taught me some valuable lessons with it (over the years) so I certainly wouldnt go away empty handed.
However, being in between a rock and a hard place often with being disabled and having limited mobility can be very isolating for me (which does stink). But thats where real life freinds (or brothers and sisters) in Jesus Christ would definately be a plus over internet ones.
The forums do help me pass the time (especially in respects to boredom) and because I really dont watch TV and so thats what is difficult in making such a choice for myself, but the availble choices (which are left) just seem so insanely unhealthy that its just no longer desirable to me to return to them.
But "talking theology" (as one might call it) and on one level did begin to serve both distract me from a thing but also occupy me against others. But I had been thinking of my former days before being online (at all) and in short from where it starts (whether offline, or on) in both places (within religious circles) it just seems to degrade into something it never started out in. That was probaly a little vague, I did attempt to articulate but Im not so good at that.
Anyway, been doing this for so long after having moved down south for not being connected to/ having any /or knowing real life freinds (or real life) brothers and sisters in Christ, however you regard it.
Beyond just the "typing of words to" each other kinds of freinds/brother/sisters.
Usually one thing will wade and decrease and something else will come in (and increase) and I am still somewhat waiting on what that will be, but I am hoping something a little more desirable will arrive on the scenes here. I need a change.
But this forum is still the better of most of them out there, it just is.
I did say that the wife should longsuffer, if it's something not deadly, so we agree. So I do not dismiss the Scripture, we're just talking sound application of it. All I was saying is that the scope of application of the Word should not contradict with the Word of God as a whole. He has given us His sound mind. In some cases even the Holy Spirit possibly might instruct the wife to longsuffer the abuse... but it should never be men prescribing this as a rule. Yes people do go to the worst case scenarios, because they have sadly heard too many stories where the abused wife would turn to the church for help and they scolded her and directed her to be more submissive and receive more abuse! Only God should counsel the believer on matters like this, whether something should be longsuffered or not. If so, the Holy Spirit will put this knowledge into her Himself.
I look at the example of Abigail and her example shows that in the case when the man is endangering his house, such as by abuse, drug abuse, excessive drinking or other reckless and foolish behavior, the wife must act to protect the whole family unit and the children from the husband and she has commendation from God for doing so. This does not mean that she is to leave him and forsake him (or badmouth him, argue with him, belittle him, spite him...), but to do whatever is necessary for protection of the household until he comes to his senses (moving out, involving authorities if needed, etc).
If a man, per example, uses meth or is an abusive alcoholic, and someone who should do everything to discourage him and uplift him back to Christ is tapping him on the shoulder and "submitting", that is called enabling and they are doing him evil, not good. This is not the definition of a righteous woman, but a lot of men (and women) imagine submission looks this way (clearly, not talking about you here, brother).
But when the household is not in danger, yes we are in agreement, God does call for lovingkindness and submission.
I look at the example of Abigail and her example shows that in the case when the man is endangering his house, such as by abuse, drug abuse, excessive drinking or other reckless and foolish behavior, the wife must act to protect the whole family unit and the children from the husband and she has commendation from God for doing so. This does not mean that she is to leave him and forsake him (or badmouth him, argue with him, belittle him, spite him...), but to do whatever is necessary for protection of the household until he comes to his senses (moving out, involving authorities if needed, etc).
If a man, per example, uses meth or is an abusive alcoholic, and someone who should do everything to discourage him and uplift him back to Christ is tapping him on the shoulder and "submitting", that is called enabling and they are doing him evil, not good. This is not the definition of a righteous woman, but a lot of men (and women) imagine submission looks this way (clearly, not talking about you here, brother).
But when the household is not in danger, yes we are in agreement, God does call for lovingkindness and submission.
There is absolutely no reason either a woman or her children should have to submit to physical abuse.
Women are not push toys; and a man should have outgrown push toys before he marries in any case!
A man who physically abuses a woman should not only be left; he should be permanently incapacitated so he can't do it again.
Women are not push toys; and a man should have outgrown push toys before he marries in any case!
A man who physically abuses a woman should not only be left; he should be permanently incapacitated so he can't do it again.
I just meant that we can, to a certain extent, manage and control the degree of interaction with whatever brand of dissident we prefer would just evaporate. We pack our own chute is a saying we used in the Military.
But even those you can't really get away from can be useful. Some of the pure idiots I have run across online have served to help me grow in both patience and in learning to extend a measure of grace. My wife had to remind me for a long time, till it began to soak in... "Bill, you were once right where they are, give them time and space." Grace tends to grow when you do that. And, that's a good thing for all involved.
I honestly think that is part of God's plan. I am not one of those who blissfully thinks that in Heaven, suddenly, all of us will be in total agreement, and all of us will think exactly the same way on everything. It might become easier there (or in that 'state' of being) but I still think discordant thinking will exist.... we will just have become enabled to deal with it differently.
So, learning to better deal with it here and now, to me, is just the beginning of whatever "Heaven" will be for Eternity.
But even those you can't really get away from can be useful. Some of the pure idiots I have run across online have served to help me grow in both patience and in learning to extend a measure of grace. My wife had to remind me for a long time, till it began to soak in... "Bill, you were once right where they are, give them time and space." Grace tends to grow when you do that. And, that's a good thing for all involved.
I honestly think that is part of God's plan. I am not one of those who blissfully thinks that in Heaven, suddenly, all of us will be in total agreement, and all of us will think exactly the same way on everything. It might become easier there (or in that 'state' of being) but I still think discordant thinking will exist.... we will just have become enabled to deal with it differently.
So, learning to better deal with it here and now, to me, is just the beginning of whatever "Heaven" will be for Eternity.