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If Jesus on the cross was merely a sin offering, why is this symbol eternal? Why is it that the only sense people can come up with is God dying, the infinite meets the total sin of all who desire to walk in Jesus?
There is another way of looking at this. God taking the place of a sin offering is a symbol of Gods nature not judging the guilt onto mankind of those who believe in His sacrifice and know His love because they become something different.
The picture is God humbling himself infront of the Jewish rulers, the roman empire and doing nothing but submission. He did not count them guilty. He showed His nature, His heart, His reality. He is saying
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Mat 11:29
There are two roads. Learn the victory of Christ over death or face the Law and judgement.
In a strange way becoming the sacrifice demonstrated Gods true nature, he can be trusted. This sacrifice was the only way eternally he could show it, so no one or anything could deny he opened up the door. Words are cheap, actions show the heart. He needed the disciples to know He was God, to know he was a friend, that He is not unapproachable, and He does understand, and He has been there. The action would then echo, infinitely, because God died, God suffered and did not complain, He bent the knee to love and said every saved person is worth it. All we have to do is believe.
In your heart of hearts do you trust your neighbour? How much less do you trust the God who put you into this chaotic world? But what if we are the cause of the chaos, and He is the cause of the solution, and you are here because you need an opportunity to choose. It is worth the whole of creation to bring you to this point, because those who walk in it are eternal, to become like the Father in nature, like the Son, their Lord.
There is another way of looking at this. God taking the place of a sin offering is a symbol of Gods nature not judging the guilt onto mankind of those who believe in His sacrifice and know His love because they become something different.
The picture is God humbling himself infront of the Jewish rulers, the roman empire and doing nothing but submission. He did not count them guilty. He showed His nature, His heart, His reality. He is saying
Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.
Mat 11:29
There are two roads. Learn the victory of Christ over death or face the Law and judgement.
In a strange way becoming the sacrifice demonstrated Gods true nature, he can be trusted. This sacrifice was the only way eternally he could show it, so no one or anything could deny he opened up the door. Words are cheap, actions show the heart. He needed the disciples to know He was God, to know he was a friend, that He is not unapproachable, and He does understand, and He has been there. The action would then echo, infinitely, because God died, God suffered and did not complain, He bent the knee to love and said every saved person is worth it. All we have to do is believe.
In your heart of hearts do you trust your neighbour? How much less do you trust the God who put you into this chaotic world? But what if we are the cause of the chaos, and He is the cause of the solution, and you are here because you need an opportunity to choose. It is worth the whole of creation to bring you to this point, because those who walk in it are eternal, to become like the Father in nature, like the Son, their Lord.
K
Jesus fulfilled the law. He was the perfct acceptable sacrafice to God. He had to be. God chose him.
In the Jewish law there were different consequences for different sin. Jesus was executed to provide for the forgivness of ALL of our sins.
Execution
Main article: Capital Punishment in Judaism
Warrants for the infliction of capital punishment, as opposed to private retribution or vengeance, are found in the Pentateuchal codes for the commission of any one of the following crimes: adultery (Lev. xx. 10; Deut. xxii. 22); bestiality (Ex. xxii. 18 [A. V. 19]; Lev. xx. 15); blasphemy (Lev. xxiv. 16); false evidence (intended to lead to a conviction) in capital cases (Deut. xix. 16-19); false prophecy (Deut. xiii. 6, xviii. 20); idolatry or inciting others to the same (Lev. xx. 2; Deut. xiii. 7-19, xvii. 2-7); incestuous or unnatural connections (Lev. xviii. 22, xx. 11-14); insubordination to supreme authority (Deut. xvii. 12); kidnaping (Ex. xxi. 16; Deut. xxiv. 7); licentiousness of a priest's daughter (Lev. xxi. 9); murder (Ex. xxi. 12; Lev. xxiv. 17; Num. xxxv. 16 et seq.); rape committed on a betrothed woman (Deut. xxii. 25-27) or fornication by or with her (Deut. xxii. 20, 23-24); striking or cursing a parent, or otherwise rebelling against parental authority (Ex. xxi. 15, 17; Lev. xx. 9; Deut. xxi. 18-21); Sabbath-breaking (Ex. xxxi. 14, xxxv. 2; Num. xv. 32-36); witchcraft and augury (Ex. xxii. 17; Lev. xx. 27).[4]
Some people will tell you that Jesus was a blood sacrifice to atone just for unintentional sin.. This is incomplete by the law.
Kefa
In the Jewish law there were different consequences for different sin. Jesus was executed to provide for the forgivness of ALL of our sins.
Execution
Main article: Capital Punishment in Judaism
Warrants for the infliction of capital punishment, as opposed to private retribution or vengeance, are found in the Pentateuchal codes for the commission of any one of the following crimes: adultery (Lev. xx. 10; Deut. xxii. 22); bestiality (Ex. xxii. 18 [A. V. 19]; Lev. xx. 15); blasphemy (Lev. xxiv. 16); false evidence (intended to lead to a conviction) in capital cases (Deut. xix. 16-19); false prophecy (Deut. xiii. 6, xviii. 20); idolatry or inciting others to the same (Lev. xx. 2; Deut. xiii. 7-19, xvii. 2-7); incestuous or unnatural connections (Lev. xviii. 22, xx. 11-14); insubordination to supreme authority (Deut. xvii. 12); kidnaping (Ex. xxi. 16; Deut. xxiv. 7); licentiousness of a priest's daughter (Lev. xxi. 9); murder (Ex. xxi. 12; Lev. xxiv. 17; Num. xxxv. 16 et seq.); rape committed on a betrothed woman (Deut. xxii. 25-27) or fornication by or with her (Deut. xxii. 20, 23-24); striking or cursing a parent, or otherwise rebelling against parental authority (Ex. xxi. 15, 17; Lev. xx. 9; Deut. xxi. 18-21); Sabbath-breaking (Ex. xxxi. 14, xxxv. 2; Num. xv. 32-36); witchcraft and augury (Ex. xxii. 17; Lev. xx. 27).[4]
Some people will tell you that Jesus was a blood sacrifice to atone just for unintentional sin.. This is incomplete by the law.
Kefa
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Deuteronomy 21-22 Holman Christian Standard Bible
If anyone is found guilty of an offense deserving the death penalty and is executed, and you hang his body on a tree,
Kefa
If anyone is found guilty of an offense deserving the death penalty and is executed, and you hang his body on a tree,
Kefa
K
Is it Biblical to say that Christ took our place and suffered our punishment? Yes, it is. First of all, we see vicarious sacrifice in the Old Testament.
Jesus did what we could not. He took our place and bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24) and made propitiation for our sins.
Genesis 22:13, "Then Abraham raised his eyes and looked, and behold, behind him a ram caught in the thicket by his horns; and Abraham went and took the ram, and offered him up for a burnt offering in the place of his son."
Notice that the ram was offered in place of Isaac. This was a substitutionary sacrifice which is exactly what "vicarious" means. Further, we see a prophecy of the atoning work of Christ in Isaiah. Notice the substitutionary language:
Isaiah 53:4-5, "Surely our griefs He Himself bore, and our sorrows He carried; yet we ourselves esteemed Him stricken, smitten of God, and afflicted. [SUP]5[/SUP] But He was pierced through for our transgressions. He was crushed for our iniquities. The chastening for our well-being fell upon Him and by His scourging we are healed."
We see in the above verses in Isaiah that Jesus was prophesied to bear our sorrows, to be smitten of God (which is what is due us, the sinners) and that our chastening fell upon Him. Can it be any clearer? What was due to us because of our sinfulness is what fell upon Christ. He was our substitution.
- 2 Cor. 5:21, "He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him."
- Rom. 4:25, "He who was delivered up because of our transgressions, and was raised because of our justification."
Jesus did what we could not. He took our place and bore our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24) and made propitiation for our sins.
- Rom. 3:25, "whom God displayed publicly as a propitiation in His blood through faith. This was to demonstrate His righteousness, because in the forbearance of God He passed over the sins previously committed."
- 1 John 2:2, "and He Himself is the propitiation for our sins; and not for ours only, but also for those of the whole world."
- 1 John 4:10, "In this is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us and sent His Son to be the propitiation for our sins."
Romans 8:3-4 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Shalom
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Well you do accept He took our sin..right? so whats the difference in your point? How Could Jesus take our sin... if He could never be in God presence ...your point is not valid in the light of biblical proof... and we know at one point the Father turn from Our Savior on His Cross...
Mt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
we know the whole world turned dark...so I think its clear He did take upon Himself our sin for the purpose of that sin being judged.
Mt 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?
we know the whole world turned dark...so I think its clear He did take upon Himself our sin for the purpose of that sin being judged.
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The Paschal Lamb was a sacrifice combining in itself the significance of the sin offerings and holy offerings, i.e., it shadowed reconciliation as well as glad fellowhip with God.
"For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son," Ro.5:10a
John called Jesus the lamb of God.
"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." John 1:29
Being a Jew, John surely used the term the "Lamb of God" for a reason.
"For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son," Ro.5:10a
John called Jesus the lamb of God.
"The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and saith, Behold the Lamb of God, which taketh away the sin of the world." John 1:29
Being a Jew, John surely used the term the "Lamb of God" for a reason.
M
Ok...? But that's not what the scriptures are saying here..its a true point but not the intention of the passage being discussed. "he became sin" who knew no sin...is saying more than He was a sin offering after the example of the law.
If it was saying He was a sin offering..the following point of Him knowing no sin, would not have been made...think about it.
If it was saying He was a sin offering..the following point of Him knowing no sin, would not have been made...think about it.
T
The scripture the way it is is just perfectly fine and it is written for all whether one knows Greek or not!
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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he hath made him to be sin for us means this: Christ was the embodiment of sin to those who crucified Him. They were blind to His reality and saw only a mere man! They did not see the divine in Him. By sacrificing Himself and His subsequent resurrection, we are freed from sin and we are made the righteousness of God in him.
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
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he hath made him to be sin for us means this: Christ was the embodiment of sin to those who crucified Him. They were blind to His reality and saw only a mere man! They did not see the divine in Him. By sacrificing Himself and His subsequent resurrection, we are freed from sin and we are made the righteousness of God in him.