healing according to Joseph prince, please do explain

[ladylynn]

Dressing smart for God, Shows a respect for Him. Those same scruffy dressers will dress smart when the go to a worldly meeting or meet someone important, But you watch them when it comes to Church, Their attitude is,
[Oh, It's only God].

No., some are thinking -Oh whew!! My loving Father knows my heart is prepared for worship and He needs no proof of my love for Him by the clothes I'm wearing today. He is seeing just me and loves me for me and I don't have to worry like I do with people when they judge me and care for me according to the clothes I'm wearing. My Father loves me no matter what I'm wearing.

 

[UnderGrace]

I did watch the you tube video to see for myself to see the context the of his teaching with regards to communion and healing.

I do not not like to rely on slander, promotion, gossip or other people's opinion. Do I understand what he is teaching around communion? Not completely.
But, I have learned one thing there is no teacher whether past, present or future that teaches 100% of the truth 100% of the time unless they were the very writers of God's word under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Even though someone may believe a person is a false teacher this should never be done in malice or with hardness of heart and the self righteous belief we can judge their motives. We expose false teachers to protect the flock, but if you do so, you better have sound evidence and not just hearsay and innuendo and make sure you have sound understanding of scripture yourself first. Are teachers more accountable, absolutely, accountable to God!

I think the level of malice towards Joseph Prince is indicative of many things.

 

[Grace777x70]

Here is what the church in Singapore believes in relation to the Lord. People who do not believe in healing will be automatically against this church and any other church that believes God want to heal us.

Their malice towards churches and people that preach that healing is for the body of Christ is the driving force behind a lot of the slander and malice toward others that do believe God heals us today.

And I don't blame some of them because of the way some in the body of Christ have looked down on those that were sick as if they were an inferior Christian.

It's time for both sides in this to grow up and treat others with respect - just because someone has a different view of some truth then we do - it doesn't mean we can malign each other.


Here are their belief statements in the New Creations church in Singapore of which Joseph Prince is one of the pastors there:

WE BELIEVE in one God, who exists in three Persons — the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. He is loving, holy and just.

WE BELIEVE that the Bible is God’s Word. It is inspired and accurate. It is our perfect guide in all matters of life.

WE BELIEVE that sin has separated us all from God, and that only through Jesus Christ can we be reconciled to God.

WE BELIEVE that Jesus Christ is both God and Man. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He led a sinless life, took all our sins upon Himself, died and rose again. Today, He is seated at the right hand of the Father as our High Priest and Mediator.

WE BELIEVE that salvation is the gift of God to man. This gift is effected by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and it results in works pleasing to God.

WE BELIEVE that water baptism is a symbol of the cleansing power of God and a testimony of our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Spirit is our Comforter. He guides us in all areas of our lives. He also blesses us with spiritual gifts and empowers us to yield the fruit of the Spirit.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Communion is a celebration of Jesus’ death and our remembrance of Him.

WE BELIEVE that God wants to transform, heal and provide for us, so that we can live blessed and victorious lives that will impact and help others.

WE BELIEVE that we are called to preach the gospel to all nations.

WE BELIEVE that our Lord Jesus Christ is coming back again just as He promised.


Taken from: http://www.josephprince.org/About_We_Believe.html?active=about

Now if these are their core values and beliefs in Christ then those that slander them are completely wrong and it is in fact ungodly behavior no matter how much we try to "pretty" it up with our own personal beliefs about some truths and think that this gives us license to malign them ( talk about people giving license to sin...how ironic and hypocritical..isn't it? )

 

[followjesus]

He probably got it from the Scriptures that say people were sick and even dying from not taking communion worthily.

which scriptures are those? and would you say there is any truth to it? eventhough the bible is very clear about healing and the laying on of hands ? to me its like his solution of simply shouting " grace grace" and that's the solution to all problems. another thing that I cant see the bible telling believers to do. The bible says live right, do good, love one another and then your light will break forth, when you persevere in living Gods way. cant find the instructions " shout grace grace and all will be well" honestly so much of what this guy says is like this when you look at what the word says to actually do. basically "a new brand of salvation" that for "some reason" isn't actually taught in Gods word.........

 

[UnderGrace]

AMEN!! It is everything I believe too and it is the Gospel Truth!!!

Here is what the church in Singapore believes in relation to the Lord. People who do not believe in healing will be automatically against this church and any other church that believes God want to heal us.

Their malice towards churches and people that preach that healing is for the body of Christ is the driving force behind a lot of the slander and malice toward others that do believe God heals us today.

And I don't blame some of them because of the way some in the body of Christ have looked down on those that were sick as if they were an inferior Christian.

It's time for both sides in this to grow up and treat others with respect - just because someone has a different view of some truth then we do - it doesn't mean we can malign each other.


Here are their belief statements in the New Creations church in Singapore of which Joseph Prince is one of the pastors there:

WE BELIEVE in one God, who exists in three Persons — the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. He is loving, holy and just.

WE BELIEVE that the Bible is God’s Word. It is inspired and accurate. It is our perfect guide in all matters of life.

WE BELIEVE that sin has separated us all from God, and that only through Jesus Christ can we be reconciled to God.

WE BELIEVE that Jesus Christ is both God and Man. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He led a sinless life, took all our sins upon Himself, died and rose again. Today, He is seated at the right hand of the Father as our High Priest and Mediator.

WE BELIEVE that salvation is the gift of God to man. This gift is effected by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and it results in works pleasing to God.

WE BELIEVE that water baptism is a symbol of the cleansing power of God and a testimony of our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Spirit is our Comforter. He guides us in all areas of our lives. He also blesses us with spiritual gifts and empowers us to yield the fruit of the Spirit.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Communion is a celebration of Jesus’ death and our remembrance of Him.

WE BELIEVE that God wants to transform, heal and provide for us, so that we can live blessed and victorious lives that will impact and help others.

WE BELIEVE that we are called to preach the gospel to all nations.

WE BELIEVE that our Lord Jesus Christ is coming back again just as He promised.


Taken from: http://www.josephprince.org/About_We_Believe.html?active=about

Now if these are their core values and beliefs in Christ then those that slander them are completely wrong and it is in fact ungodly behavior no matter how much we try to "pretty" it up with our own personal beliefs about some truths and think that this gives us license to malign them ( talk about people giving license to sin...ironic and hypocritical..isn't it? )

 

[popeye]

I take it you are one of the scruffy dressers who has no respect for God.
People dress smart to honour and respect God, Not to impress people.

I don't think you are going to get much traction since the one we follow,Jesus,wore a robe,sandals and ate with dirty hands and offended the well dressed with that prostitute following him around.

 

[Willie-T]

Here is what the church in Singapore believes in relation to the Lord. People who do not believe in healing will be automatically against this church and any other church that believes God want to heal us.

Their malice towards churches and people that preach that healing is for the body of Christ is the driving force behind a lot of the slander and malice toward others that do believe God heals us today.

And I don't blame some of them because of the way some in the body of Christ have looked down on those that were sick as if they were an inferior Christian.

It's time for both sides in this to grow up and treat others with respect - just because someone has a different view of some truth then we do - it doesn't mean we can malign each other.


Here are their belief statements in the New Creations church in Singapore of which Joseph Prince is one of the pastors there:

WE BELIEVE in one God, who exists in three Persons — the Father, Son and Holy Spirit. He is loving, holy and just.

WE BELIEVE that the Bible is God’s Word. It is inspired and accurate. It is our perfect guide in all matters of life.

WE BELIEVE that sin has separated us all from God, and that only through Jesus Christ can we be reconciled to God.

WE BELIEVE that Jesus Christ is both God and Man. He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. He led a sinless life, took all our sins upon Himself, died and rose again. Today, He is seated at the right hand of the Father as our High Priest and Mediator.

WE BELIEVE that salvation is the gift of God to man. This gift is effected by grace through faith in Jesus Christ and it results in works pleasing to God.

WE BELIEVE that water baptism is a symbol of the cleansing power of God and a testimony of our faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Spirit is our Comforter. He guides us in all areas of our lives. He also blesses us with spiritual gifts and empowers us to yield the fruit of the Spirit.

WE BELIEVE that the Holy Communion is a celebration of Jesus’ death and our remembrance of Him.

WE BELIEVE that God wants to transform, heal and provide for us, so that we can live blessed and victorious lives that will impact and help others.

WE BELIEVE that we are called to preach the gospel to all nations.

WE BELIEVE that our Lord Jesus Christ is coming back again just as He promised.


Taken from: http://www.josephprince.org/About_We_Believe.html?active=about

Now if these are their core values and beliefs in Christ then those that slander them are completely wrong and it is in fact ungodly behavior no matter how much we try to "pretty" it up with our own personal beliefs about some truths and think that this gives us license to malign them ( talk about people giving license to sin...how ironic and hypocritical..isn't it? )

It flabbergasts me how some people claim a certain group believes "whatever". Yet when an honest man like 777 quotes, verbatim, the beliefs of that group from their openly published website (for all the world to see), the haters come right back with, "No, they don't believe THAT, they believe what I said they believe."

Are these haters just inbred idiots?

 

[followjesus]

I did watch the you tube video to see for myself to see the context the of his teaching with regards to communion and healing.

I do not not like to rely on slander, promotion, gossip or other people's opinion. Do I understand what he is teaching around communion? Not completely.
But, I have learned one thing there is no teacher whether past, present or future that teaches 100% of the truth 100% of the time unless they were the very writers of God's word under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Even though someone may believe a person is a false teacher this should never be done in malice or with hardness of heart and the self righteous belief we can judge their motives. We expose false teachers to protect the flock, but if you do so, you better have sound evidence and not just hearsay and innuendo and make sure you have sound understanding of scripture yourself first. Are teachers more accountable, absolutely, accountable to God!

I think the level of malice towards Joseph Prince is indicative of many things.

joseph prince is simply a false teacher, its not malicious to say the truth. the problem with trusting a man over what Gods word says is a huge one. Gods word makes the process of Healing very clear, like it does all things. if the word sisnt say the truth of laying hands on the sick for healing, maybe I wouldn't see the false teaching here, but sorry I believe the bible is the authority, believe its truth, don't believe it needs revolution. this is simply one aspect of this guys deception one point there arew several that I have read and seen. its not my place to approve false teachers who teach a foreign gospel, anyone who sees through this guys deception, just has some insight into the truth, that's all. not just me that sees it.

cant just make up things like this. all who are with this, lets find it in scripture?? I can easily show you what the vivle sats of healing and it isn't take communion and claim healing.......im open tho to the scriptures that explain how communion is healing and prosperity and is all the "finished work" of Christ......none of what this fellow teaches is biblical really just because a person wuotes and teists a few scriptures doesn't mean their message is true. remember who uses a few scriptures and twists the message? yea the serpent does that, in the beginning of the o.t. and again with jesus in the desert. to this op, communion is not taught biblically to bring physical healing, that's not a principle or idea taught in the bible, crazy to me how people support pastors who stray so far from the truth made plain, especially when gods word makes the truth so clear and available. I have no malice to apologize for towards jp, just know uneducated believers will fall into His deception....

 

[popeye]

which scriptures are those? and would you say there is any truth to it? eventhough the bible is very clear about healing and the laying on of hands ? to me its like his solution of simply shouting " grace grace" and that's the solution to all problems. another thing that I cant see the bible telling believers to do. The bible says live right, do good, love one another and then your light will break forth, when you persevere in living Gods way. cant find the instructions " shout grace grace and all will be well" honestly so much of what this guy says is like this when you look at what the word says to actually do. basically "a new brand of salvation" that for "some reason" isn't actually taught in Gods word.........

Since God said it,and you know he is wrong,lets see you take it unworthily and dare him to honor what he said not to do.

Look at it thisa way.

A brownie with just a little bit of poop in it will make you sick.

.........but technically,it wasn't the brownie that did it.

 

[popeye]

joseph prince is simply a false teacher, its not malicious to say the truth. the problem with trusting a man over what Gods word says is a huge one. Gods word makes the process of Healing very clear, like it does all things. if the word sisnt say the truth of laying hands on the sick for healing, maybe I wouldn't see the false teaching here, but sorry I believe the bible is the authority, believe its truth, don't believe it needs revolution. this is simply one aspect of this guys deception one point there arew several that I have read and seen. its not my place to approve false teachers who teach a foreign gospel, anyone who sees through this guys deception, just has some insight into the truth, that's all. not just me that sees it.

cant just make up things like this. all who are with this, lets find it in scripture?? I can easily show you what the vivle sats of healing and it isn't take communion and claim healing.......im open tho to the scriptures that explain how communion is healing and prosperity and is all the "finished work" of Christ......none of what this fellow teaches is biblical really just because a person wuotes and teists a few scriptures doesn't mean their message is true. remember who uses a few scriptures and twists the message? yea the serpent does that, in the beginning of the o.t. and again with jesus in the desert. to this op, communion is not taught biblically to bring physical healing, that's not a principle or idea taught in the bible, crazy to me how people support pastors who stray so far from the truth made plain, especially when gods word makes the truth so clear and available. I have no malice to apologize for towards jp, just know uneducated believers will fall into His deception....

Conclusion;

the dummy false prophet snookered you on your lack of research.

 

[Willie-T]

I do have to say that I am disappointed that many still hold to the idea that not performing a ritual in the properly prescribed manner will kill you. (You guys might consider having a "pull me out of here" rope tied to your ankle just in case you fall dead when you insert that wafer into your mouth incorrectly. LOL)

 

[followjesus]

It flabbergasts me how some people claim a certain group believes "whatever". Yet when an honest man like 777 quotes, verbatim, the beliefs of that group from their openly published website (for all the world to see), the haters come right back with, "No, they don't believe THAT, they believe what I said they believe."

Are these haters just inbred idiots?

lol actually willie I think those who stoop to childish insults probly should check their words out. if any pastor or teacher is teaching things opposed to what Gods word says, the teaching is false. saying that is a lot different than some 11 year old name calling. joseph prince does not teach the gospel. he omits any clear condition taught by Jesus, paul, john, james, peter ect. jp is not some newly appointed prophet that has any authoprity to change the gospel from what it has always been. BUT to sell books in the world, authors need to come up with fresh ideas and ways. " 7 secrets to prosperity" " how to be financially blessed" " grace revolution"......if these guys had some revelation and great insight into Gods word, should they be making millions on the word God gave them to share with thew church? should they charge 40 bux a pop to go listen to them speak what God supposedly gave them for the church?

a pastor who is full time, sure they should make their living. making a living and storing up millions by selling their spiritual insight though?? seems to me to be more capitalism than a spiritual leader trying to share the truth that saves another. the bottom line though, if anyone is teaching anything it should first be taught in Gods word, anything that isn't, should not be accepted as a Christian truth. taking communion isn't what the word teaches for physical healing unless again ive missed those scriptures? he sure didn't offer any in his 40 minute sermon. just kept referring to "the finished work" like he does with obedience. I saw him take james 1:22-25 and twist it its not saying you need to do the word just keep hearing it????? really jp? it actually says " do not merely listen to the word and deceive yourselves DO WHAT IT SAYS." just this one verse says its a deception to just hear the word, you must do the word. but His sermon concluded that's backwards to its " real" meaning it really is saying just keep looking at it. His own words. the guy is selling books by convincing people the bible doesn't actually say what it says. selling an empty hope, a false gospel. hes a twister, clever, but Gods word is solid and repeats truth throughout so twisters have no ground.

inbred idiots willie? lol grace grace I guess....shout grace grace and everything will be okay

 

[WarriorForChrist]

Doggit! someone rep this woman cause I already did not long ago

skewer today...I kinda got myself skewered yesterday

apparently, I taste great with a little tongue lashing and false judgement and for the cherry on top, two people agreeing that I'm just a big ole blue meany

ok well, they did not call me a big old blue meany, but the religious speak was there sure 'nuff


I love it Lynn. I seriously love it!!!

Gotcha covered

 

[LaurenTM]

all I gotta say is maybe I should watch Joseph Prince more cause he must be doing something right for people here to keep wanting to discuss how wrong he is

yes, that makes perfect sense to some of us

 

[RobbyEarl]

all I gotta say is maybe I should watch Joseph Prince more cause he must be doing something right for people here to keep wanting to discuss how wrong he is

yes, that makes perfect sense to some of us

Joseph Prince is unconditional grace, much like entitlement, you can sin all you want to and it's okay

 

[WarriorForChrist]

 

[LaurenTM]

Joseph Prince is unconditional grace, much like entitlement, you can sin all you want to and it's okay

don't turn too quickly by a wall

I fear your nose may have exceeded its normal length

gee I hope all you folk actually know the Bible half as good as you think others don't know it



what do you call God's grace then?

CONDITIONAL grace?

y'all ought to hear yourselves LOL!

 

[followjesus]

Since God said it,and you know he is wrong,lets see you take it unworthily and dare him to honor what he said not to do.

Look at it thisa way.

A brownie with just a little bit of poop in it will make you sick.

.........but technically,it wasn't the brownie that did it.

dtaking it unworthily??? God is wrong??? taking communion unworthily would be taking it without examining ones self to see if they are living in honor of Jesus. serving sin as your master and taking communion is unworthy. uniting ourselves with the body and blood while dishonoring Jesus, unworthy. not laying down self, picking up the cross makes us unworthy of Jesus. not my words, Jesus words.

Gods word on healing is clear a false teaching is a false teaching. just like shouting grace in place of obeying God. false teaching. obey God and thank God for grace that makes us able. again tho, where are those scriptures about healing coming because of communion again??? if God said it it will be written clearly in His word. not twisted and stretched but clear. so in scripture lets support jps claim here and stop with the childish argument. where is the biblical support for this communion for healing ?

 

[LaurenTM]

The word "grace" in biblical parlance can, like forgiveness, repentance, regeneration, and salvation, mean something as broad as describing the whole of God's activity toward man or as narrow as describing one segment of that activity. An accurate, common definition describes grace as the unmerited favor of God toward man. In the Old Testament, the term that most often is translated "grace, " is hen [ej]; in the New Testament, it is charis [cavri"].

Here is the source for my quote

now you can argue with those good folks

 

[RobbyEarl]

don't turn too quickly by a wall

I fear your nose may have exceeded its normal length

gee I hope all you folk actually know the Bible half as good as you think others don't know it



what do you call God's grace then?

CONDITIONAL grace?

y'all ought to hear yourselves LOL!

You should hear yourself. LOL., If you think that Gods grace is not conditional then you haven't read the bible. If it's unconditional then we have nothing to be concerned about, rob banks, rape women, kill children and have a hay day. Upon repentance it can be forgiven, but for God to accept this behavior is not biblical.