Here is another passage for the law/sabbath keepers to explain away........

[JaumeJ]

Jesus Christ, King of the Jews.

Jesus Christ teaches us the faith of Abraham.

Jesus Christ teaches as being the Good Shepherd, He had His flock, the Jews and Israel, and He had another flock, the Gentiles, which He was going to bring together with His flock.

Jesus Christ obeyed perfectly the laws of Moses for whom? Just for His flock.

Abraham was promised that his descendants would possess the Gate, Jesus Christ, of their enemies, Gentiles. If they possess the Gate, they are inside, and for the Gentiles to enter that Gate, Jesus Christ, it stands to reason they would enter it and be with the Jews.

Not all people who call themselves Jews are lost, and not all people who call themselves Christians are saved.

Are you offended by words like Jew, Israel, Abraham and his faith, etc?. If so, you do not know Jesus Christ at all. Read what He teaches, and Who He truly is, and believe Him.

[SUP]10 "For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel
After those days, says the Lord:
I will put My laws into their minds,
And I will write them on their hearts.
And I will be their God,
And they shall be My people.
11 "And they shall not teach everyone his fellow citizen,
And everyone his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,'
For all will know Me,
From the least to the greatest of them.
12 "For I will be merciful to their iniquities,
And I will remember their sins no more."
13 When He said, "A new covenant," He has made the first obsolete. But whatever is becoming obsolete and growing old is ready to disappear.
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what law, i am not jewish, again acts 15 tells you this, and gal 3 and with no temple at 70 ad , how can you follow full law.

 

[RedTent]

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QUOTE=JesusIsAll;1674219]Well said. Regarding the above, what I also believe should temper such discussions is that the law of ordinances was given to Israel by the Lord, was never, ever laid on a Gentile nation. Judaism was never a global religion, while Christianity is to the Jew and the Gentile. To believe ordinances in the Old Testament the Lord only ever gave to Israel, of a failed legal system that only served to condemn those very people, is like putting a corpse on the back of Christianity. Also, we walk in the Spirit, the law of God written on our hearts, the summation of which is love, QUOTE]

Just as so often happens with people explaining what God meant by giving us scripture, people sometimes exaggerate something they understand.

God certainly gave ordinances to this nation to help them understand that Christ replaced for us, that is so very true. Christ tells us to be clean in thought word and deed, and gives us the Holy Spirit to help us understand that and put it into our daily life. God gave dietary laws to the Hebrews for the same purpose, but with the added purpose of telling them not to go to the parties like we have of the drinkers we have down our streets, for fear we would take on their ways of living. But the exaggeration and distortion comes in with "a failed legal system", etc.

Unless you call the rituals God gave to help them see and obey the spirit and truth of the same laws we have today the entire legal system, you can't say everything failed. When people today do not follow the lead of the Holy Spirit, can we say the Holy Spirit failed? That is what the rituals were for before all of us were given the Holy Spirit. In the book of Isaiah and in the story of the seven churches in Rev. we are told that anyone, at any time in our world ignored the spirit and truth of what the rituals were to lead to, they made it of no count. We can no the same with the Holy Spirit---ignore the leading of the spirit.

 

[JesusIsAll]

When people today do not follow the lead of the Holy Spirit, can we say the Holy Spirit failed?

No, I was using failure in the Pauline sense, that the system of law cannot save. Also, the Lord even came out and said, before the Lord Jesus, He gets no pleasure from animal sacrifice anymore,

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Things do change, the Lord's program a progression of enlightenment. Have you sacrificed a ram lately?

 

[chubbena]

Things do change.200 years ago no one would say the law is done away with.

 

[RedTent]

No, I was using failure in the Pauline sense, that the system of law cannot save. Also, the Lord even came out and said, before the Lord Jesus, He gets no pleasure from animal sacrifice anymore,

Isaiah 1:11 To what purpose is the multitude of your sacrifices unto me? saith the LORD: I am full of the burnt offerings of rams, and the fat of fed beasts; and I delight not in the blood of bullocks, or of lambs, or of he goats.

Things do change, the Lord's program a progression of enlightenment. Have you sacrificed a ram lately?

These are the things my post is speaking of, I do wish I could communicate in the spirit of the Lord!!!

If you will go to Isaiah to read about God getting no pleasure in animal sacrifice, you will see that you are adding "anymore" out of fleshly additions to scripture. Idol worshippers used animal sacrifice to satisfy the fleshly hunger of their pretend Gods and God asked for animal sacrifice symbolic of the blood of Christ. If people who loved God ever, at any time, sacrificed animals to feed God fleshly, do you think God ever, ever accepted that blood? No. It says so in Isaiah.

There is no such thing as a Pauline sense! Paul spoke what God gave him to speak, and God is eternal. What Paul says has to be at one with everything God says about Himself, reflect who God is. Scripture gives as an eternal attribute of God that it is only through grace and faith, not by the works of our hands we are saved. That is not a Pauline sense that is uniquely of Paul, it is of God and Paul repeats what God said from the beginning. Paul has absolutely no importance as a human man, Paul has importance as a transmitter of the words of the Lord.

It is insulting to all of Christianity to sneer at people with "have you sacrificed a ram". Like asking you "have you worshipped idols lately?"

 

[JesusIsAll]

These are the things my post is speaking of, I do wish I could communicate in the spirit of the Lord!!!

If you will go to Isaiah to read about God getting no pleasure in animal sacrifice, you will see that you are adding "anymore" out of fleshly additions to scripture. Idol worshippers used animal sacrifice to satisfy the fleshly hunger of their pretend Gods and God asked for animal sacrifice symbolic of the blood of Christ. If people who loved God ever, at any time, sacrificed animals to feed God fleshly, do you think God ever, ever accepted that blood? No. It says so in Isaiah.

There is no such thing as a Pauline sense! Paul spoke what God gave him to speak, and God is eternal. What Paul says has to be at one with everything God says about Himself, reflect who God is. Scripture gives as an eternal attribute of God that it is only through grace and faith, not by the works of our hands we are saved. That is not a Pauline sense that is uniquely of Paul, it is of God and Paul repeats what God said from the beginning. Paul has absolutely no importance as a human man, Paul has importance as a transmitter of the words of the Lord.

It is insulting to all of Christianity to sneer at people with "have you sacrificed a ram". Like asking you "have you worshipped idols lately?"

I am sorry, but you're not grasping either what I was saying nor the spirit of it, what the Bible is saying, and nothing snide said, on my part. I have noticed your invariable argumentativeness, putting words into peoples' mouths. I have no use for this, myself, and do apologize for my reply, then.

 

[JesusIsAll]

There is no such thing as a Pauline sense! ...

Ridiculous, simply ridiculous, everything that follows that, as if anybody said anything about God not speaking through Paul. You just whip things up to be contrary, are an angry person, in many of your posts. Now a person can't even use plain old English like "Pauline sense" meaning what Paul taught, without you getting your shorts in a bunch. It's sad. You really should work on this, consider maybe others may not appreciate your senseless venom.

 

[royalscot]

PLEASE!! When you post for all to follow you, read and think thoroughly first. Scripture was breathed by God to Jews. The Old Test. is 78% of scripture and it was all made even in a special language they had. When God saw that most people didn't know him, God created a Jewish race to teach in a special way and set that race apart, even told them not to get together with others for suppers and parties together, but when Christ was crucified God split the curtain to the holy arc, remember? Jesus said everything remained the same with him, but at the same time Christ told us that He told how it was made better. At the time of that split, we were all to reach the arc and Christ was the high priest for our salvation to take the place of the Levi priest. The temple was changed at that time even if it was in 70 that the brick and mortar symbol of the temple was destroyed. Now, it isn't whether you are Jewish or not. That is what the letters written to the first churches are all about, tearing down the boundaries between Jews and gentiles.

You can keep to the diet God gave the Jews to symbolize cleanliness or not keep it, but all people are to keep the spiritual teaching. You can circumcise your baby boys or not circumcise them with a knife, but the heart is to be circumcised. We are not to be Jew and gentile any more, we are to be one in Christ. THAT is what Acts and Galatians is telling you.

You are very mixed up (honestly!!) about the place of the law that God wants us to have. Also, about what is law in spirit and truth. Are the feasts law in spirit and truth? Are the dietary law in spirit and truth? How did Christ overcome law? In order to find out about these things we must be humble before the Lord. Today we have a way to get help with a search of every scripture in all of scripture about law, use it and read about law starting with creation and how God developed it for us. It is all one God breathing the very same principle of His eternal self, the principle God has for us never changes. Find a search engine like there is in e-Sword software to search the entire bible for these scriptures. Your life depends on knowing all of God.

take your speculation , and prove we are under law,
so what was the date, a gentile was saved, or a jewish person talking to a gentile, would this have been after pentecost.


no i am not, prove the law was given to a gentile. act 10 and act 15,
if your save by promise not law.
[SUP]9 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.
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[SUP]1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? It was before your eyes that Jesus Christ was publicly portrayed as crucified.2 Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?3 Are you so foolish? Having begun by the Spirit, are you now being perfected by the flesh?4 Did you suffer so many things in vain---if indeed it was in vain?5 Does he who supplies the Spirit to you and works miracles among you do so by works of the law, or by hearing with faith---6 just as Abraham "believed God, and it was counted to him as righteousness"?
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[SUP]16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.
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[SUP]21 Is the law then contrary to the promises of God? Certainly not! For if a law had been given that could give life, then righteousness would indeed be by the law.22 But the Scripture imprisoned everything under sin, so that the promise by faith in Jesus Christ might be given to those who believe.
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[cfultz3]

5 Therefore he is the mediator of a new covenant, so that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance, since a death has occurred that redeems them from the transgressions committed under the first covenant.16 For where a will is involved, the death of the one who made it must be established.17 For a will takes effect only at death, since it is not in force as long as the one who made it is alive.18 Therefore not even the first covenant was inaugurated without blood.19 For when every commandment of the law had been declared by Moses to all the people, he took the blood of calves and goats, with water and scarlet wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book itself and all the people,20 saying, "This is the blood of the covenant that God commanded for you."21 And in the same way he sprinkled with the blood both the tent and all the vessels used in worship.22 Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins.

6 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

is it. god s will, you need his son,

I meant: what is the Law from the Spirit sent by Christ? That is, what Law does the Spirit use to lead us under the New Covenant? It is what He used to send His Son in John 3:16....

 

[royalscot]

I meant: what is the Law from the Spirit sent by Christ? That is, what Law does the Spirit use to lead us under the New Covenant? It is what He used to send His Son in John 3:16....

its call a new covenent for a reason, what did jesus have to go through, for the new covenent to be put in place.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I meant: what is the Law from the Spirit sent by Christ? That is, what Law does the Spirit use to lead us under the New Covenant? It is what He used to send His Son in John 3:16....

Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind. This is the first and great commandment. And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Galatians 5:13-14 For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

1 John 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.

1 John 4:7-8 Beloved, let us love one another: for love is of God; and every one that loveth is born of God, and knoweth God. He that loveth not knoweth not God; for God is love.

 

[royalscot]

Jesus Christ, King of the Jews.

Jesus Christ teaches us the faith of Abraham.

Jesus Christ teaches as being the Good Shepherd, He had His flock, the Jews and Israel, and He had another flock, the Gentiles, which He was going to bring together with His flock.

Jesus Christ obeyed perfectly the laws of Moses for whom? Just for His flock.

Abraham was promised that his descendants would possess the Gate, Jesus Christ, of their enemies, Gentiles. If they possess the Gate, they are inside, and for the Gentiles to enter that Gate, Jesus Christ, it stands to reason they would enter it and be with the Jews.

Not all people who call themselves Jews are lost, and not all people who call themselves Christians are saved.

Are you offended by words like Jew, Israel, Abraham and his faith, etc?. If so, you do not know Jesus Christ at all. Read what He teaches, and Who He truly is, and believe Him.

what date was a gentile saved again, or even a jewish person talking to a gentile, again would this be after pentecost,
what law, did abraham have.
16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.


believe, in who to be heirs to the promise.



29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.

21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it---22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,25 whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith. This was to show God's righteousness, because in his divine forbearance he had passed over former sins.26 It was to show his righteousness at the present time, so that he might be just and the justifier of the one who has faith in Jesus

29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

ware dose it say justified by law. but a gift by (god s)grace

 

[cfultz3]

its call a new covenent for a reason, what did jesus have to go through, for the new covenent to be put in place.
29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.

A new covenant most assuredly. If Jesus is our Christ, then should He not also be our LORD? Then, let us do as He commanded and love. And if we love, what do we fulfill? Yes, what God has said to be the righteous path which leads to Him, that same path the Spirit walks us on. That is, we fulfill God's Law which has always been 'love'.

So, what is new about the new Covenant? Certainly not God's will for humans. He still desires us to walk pleasingly before Him in the Light. Just a His Son fulfilled what God the Father sent Him to do, so we too ought to fulfill what God has desired from us. How then if not through the method Jesus brought about, namely: spiritually?

Does it not say that we are to die to our flesh with Christ so that we became alive to our spirit so that through our spirit we can be lead by the Spirit? Where does the Spirit lead, if not on the path which God has foreordained from eternity to be the path pleasing to Him? Has He not told us what is good before Him?

 

[RedTent]

I am sorry, but you're not grasping either what I was saying nor the spirit of it, what the Bible is saying, and nothing snide said, on my part. I have noticed your invariable argumentativeness, putting words into peoples' mouths. I have no use for this, myself, and do apologize for my reply, then.

And I have no use for making reasoning together about scripture an "argument" "putting words in people's mouths." We are DONE!!!

 

[royalscot]

A new covenant most assuredly. If Jesus is our Christ, then should He not also be our LORD? Then, let us do as He commanded and love. And if we love, what do we fulfill? Yes, what God has said to be the righteous path which leads to Him, that same path the Spirit walks us on. That is, we fulfill God's Law which has always been 'love'.

So, what is new about the new Covenant? Certainly not God's will for humans. He still desires us to walk pleasingly before Him in the Light. Just a His Son fulfilled what God the Father sent Him to do, so we too ought to fulfill what God has desired from us. How then if not through the method Jesus brought about, namely: spiritually?

Does it not say that we are to die to our flesh with Christ so that we became alive to our spirit so that through our spirit we can be lead by the Spirit? Where does the Spirit lead, if not on the path which God has foreordained from eternity to be the path pleasing to Him? Has He not told us what is good before Him?

is this form topic about god love,
you have to believe, jesus is lord, before the new covenent, has any value to the believer.
[SUP]16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him
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even reading the bible,none believer, can tell you, there is two covenents, (hewbrew,s)
gospels, how the old covent got forfilled.
pentecost, the start of a new covenent.
gentile, how they got the new covenent.
the difference between, jew and gentile to this covenent,(new)


even being a none believer, the reader can tell, from reading these parts of the bible, there is a new covenet in place.

so none believers, this has no value to you.

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

 

[cfultz3]

is this form topic about god love,
you have to believe, jesus is lord, before the new covenent, has any value to the believer.
[SUP]16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him
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even reading the bible,none believer, can tell you, there is two covenents, (hewbrew,s)
gospels, how the old covent got forfilled.
pentecost, the start of a new covenent.
gentile, how they got the new covenent.
the difference between, jew and gentile to this covenent,(new)


even being a none believer, the reader can tell, from reading these parts of the bible, there is a new covenet in place.

so none believers, this has no value to you.

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

Quote Originally Posted by cfultz3 View Post
A new covenant most assuredly.

 

[royalscot]

Quote Originally Posted by cfultz3 View Post
A new covenant most assuredly.

23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,

when was i saved by law, jesus forfilled the old covenent. gospel.
and if all fall short, when did it depend on me, to save myself.

So, what is new about the new Covenant? Certainly not God's will for humans. He still desires us to walk pleasingly before Him in the Light. Just a His Son fulfilled what God the Father sent Him to do, so we too ought to fulfill what God has desired from us. How then if not through the method Jesus brought about, namely: spiritually? (your quote)

16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.


believe, in who to be heirs to this promise.



23 Now before faith came, we were held captive under the law, imprisoned until the coming faith would be revealed.24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,


26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.( would that, be, by believing that god, raised jesus)

how can i be out of the light.

[SUP]16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 [/SUP][SUP]For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him[/SUP]
if i believe.
1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.2 For the law of the Spirit of life has set you free in Christ Jesus from the law of sin and death.3 For God has done what the law, weakened by the flesh, could not do. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and for sin, he condemned sin in the flesh,4 in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. romans 8

0 But if Christ is in you, although the body is dead because of sin, the Spirit is life because of righteousness.11 If the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead dwells in you, he who raised Christ Jesus from the dead will also give life to your mortal bodies through his Spirit who dwells in you.roman 8



can, i raise myself, from the dead.

21 I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.

 

[Wall]

John 15:12 "This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you."
Romans 13:8 "Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law."

If you are applying the law to your life, it hasn't done it's job, which is to bring you to love.

Your tryin to tell me we need not keep Gods 10 commandments because we are givin new a new testament commandment “to love one another”. Problem is the new testament scriptures tell us how to “love one another”.

1JOHN 5 [2] By this WE KNOW THAT WE LOVE THE CHILDREN OF GOD, when we love God, and keep his commandments. [3] For THIS IS THE LOVE OF GOD, THAT WE KEEP HIS COMMANDMENTS: and his commandments are not grievous.

To love the children of God, we are to keep the commandments

2JOHN1 [5] And now I beseech thee, lady, not as though I wrote a new commandment unto thee, but that which we had from the beginning, that WE LOVE ONE ANOTHER.[6] And THIS IS LOVE, THAT WE WALK AFTER HIS COMMANDMENTS. This is the commandment, That, as ye have heard from the beginning, ye should walk in it.

Love one another. Keep the commandments

JAMES 2 [8] If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, THOU SHALT LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AS THYSELF, ye do well: [9] But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.[10] For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.[11] For he that said, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, said also, DO NOT KILL. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.

ROMANS 13 [8] Owe no man any thing, but to LOVE ONE ANOTHER: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.[9] For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, THOU SHALT NOT STEAL, Thou shalt not bear false witness, THOU SHALT NOT COVET; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.[10] Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

I decided to show the scripture of James 2 and Romans 13 which explain to us how we are to show our love for one another because im sure someone shall claim that it is not the 10 commandments being mentioned. But as you can see in these scriptures, adultry killing, stealing, bearing false witness, covetness are mentioned. And i suppose i will hear you say that since the “keeping of the sabbath” is not mentioned or “thou shalt have no other gods before me" is not mentioned these commandments can be ignored. Not so

 

[royalscot]

jesus was sent to a jewish people, ie under the law of moses. (gospel) jesus back in heaven, pentecost.
new covent,
act 10, and acts 15 asks, when was a gentile, ever under the law of moses,
gentiles, was under, the punishment god gave adam. (death)
15 We ourselves are Jews by birth(law) and not Gentile sinners;16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ (grace a gift)and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.


believe, in who, to be heirs to this promise.(gentiles and jewish christain)

 

[cfultz3]

jesus was sent to a jewish people, ie under the law of moses. (gospel) jesus back in heaven, pentecost.
new covent,
act 10, and acts 15 asks, when was a gentile, ever under the law of moses,
gentiles, was under, the punishment god gave adam. (death)
15 We ourselves are Jews by birth(law) and not Gentile sinners;16 yet we know that a person is not justified by works of the law but through faith in Jesus Christ, so we also have believed in Christ Jesus, in order to be justified by faith in Christ (grace a gift)and not by works of the law, because by works of the law no one will be justified.

16 Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.17 This is what I mean: the law, which came 430 years afterward, does not annul a covenant previously ratified by God, so as to make the promise void.18 For if the inheritance comes by the law, it no longer comes by promise; but God gave it to Abraham by a promise.


believe, in who, to be heirs to this promise.(gentiles and jewish christain)

Are you saying that anyone who believes will be saved?