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And yet Abraham slept with another woman GIVEN to him by his wife, Jacob had 2 wives AND 2 concubines of which the children of Israel were born to, and if we're really honest with ourselves, David being hinted at in the bible as being a homosexual. True fornication to God is a spiritual matter for a God who is Spirit. I'll say it again. You will not get a homosexual to change no more than you can get a straight man to sleep with another man. I wasn't taught to be attracted to women, just how to display that attraction by the world. So let's fix the issues we can now like world homelessness, poverty and starvation and trivial things such as a man being gay will go away. We're 7 billion strong. It's safe to say that most of them aren't gay like the media portrays. Like everything else it's designed to make money!
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How do you know God caused this to happen, which destroyed Pompeii?
Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Natural disasters happen all the time, and kill people.
And the fact that there was a lot of immorality going on in said city, still does not prove that it was wiped out by God from said immorality.
Eruption of Mount Vesuvius in 79 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Natural disasters happen all the time, and kill people.
And the fact that there was a lot of immorality going on in said city, still does not prove that it was wiped out by God from said immorality.
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"how did you enter the gate. he who is with out sin cast the first stone"
Whew! That line is a twisting of two verses and is completely out of context. It sort of refers to a great truth that nobody get sthrough the narrow Gate which is Jesus by some other broad way than commanded, not admitting those coming like a thief not coming in by welcome. The second part must line up with an understanding of how 1 John 1:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
agrees with 1 John 3:8 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Read the book of 1 Jn to get the link.
The concept of proper judging is being distorted. We are in fact commanded to judge such folks as false teachers, then take action from that judgment.
Romans 16:17 (KJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
That's a proper judging of persons. Do that or suffer grave consequences. Is it wrong to warn someone of an act that is sin? My Bible makes it clear it is commanded. Peter spoke a mighty judgment in Acts 5 againsttwo believers, Ananias and Sapphira, unto their immediate deaths. There is no apology for that in any epistle following that event. It is those afraid of judgment that oppose it happening. Following after righteousness rids a believer of fear and opposition to being judged by anyone, and causes us to exercise judgement the way taught in scriptures.
It is false that "judging" is disallowed in Christianity. It doesn't fit to make any kind of judging off limits.
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Whew! That line is a twisting of two verses and is completely out of context. It sort of refers to a great truth that nobody get sthrough the narrow Gate which is Jesus by some other broad way than commanded, not admitting those coming like a thief not coming in by welcome. The second part must line up with an understanding of how 1 John 1:8 (KJV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
agrees with 1 John 3:8 (KJV) He that committeth sin is of the devil; for the devil sinneth from the beginning. For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil.
Read the book of 1 Jn to get the link.
The concept of proper judging is being distorted. We are in fact commanded to judge such folks as false teachers, then take action from that judgment.
Romans 16:17 (KJV) [SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
That's a proper judging of persons. Do that or suffer grave consequences. Is it wrong to warn someone of an act that is sin? My Bible makes it clear it is commanded. Peter spoke a mighty judgment in Acts 5 againsttwo believers, Ananias and Sapphira, unto their immediate deaths. There is no apology for that in any epistle following that event. It is those afraid of judgment that oppose it happening. Following after righteousness rids a believer of fear and opposition to being judged by anyone, and causes us to exercise judgement the way taught in scriptures.
It is false that "judging" is disallowed in Christianity. It doesn't fit to make any kind of judging off limits.
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If that's what they DO, then all God sees in them is sin. But if they will but follow after righteousness, be a disciple instead of a part-timer with God, all that passes away life chaff driven from the grain. I suspect most folks thinking themselves to be born again are not so, but are swimming in a sea of regret, forever living with a sin-consciousness. If a person thinks sin they surely will do sin.
Let's try pairing Proverbs 23:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
[HR][/HR] with this from the LOVE chapter 1 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Trust the LORD, stop thinking wrong, doing wrong is good advice for all here. Wonderful Word of God!
Let's try pairing Proverbs 23:7 (KJV)
[SUP]7 [/SUP] For as he thinketh in his heart, so is he: Eat and drink, saith he to thee; but his heart is not with thee.
[HR][/HR] with this from the LOVE chapter 1 Corinthians 13:5 (KJV)
[SUP]5 [/SUP] Doth not behave itself unseemly, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil;
Trust the LORD, stop thinking wrong, doing wrong is good advice for all here. Wonderful Word of God!
Don't think avoid means judge....and he's talking about ones preaching false doctrine, Do you think a non christian women that does prostitute, once to hear you, saying ..your going to hell!! You whore!! Or God loves you, a hug, please stop hurting yourself, can we pray? Which way do you think God would talk? ... I like those bracelets wwJd?
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If one person marks another then gets others to avoid the marked one, I must call it judging the marked one. False teachers must be identified and judged so people can know to avoid them. The man sleeping with his mother in 1 Cor 5 was judged by Paul to be a fornicator posing as a Christian, to be shunned by the church. Had he always identified as a lost sinner there would be no case for Paul to make of him, for that sort of thing is what lost sinners do. Later the man repented and the shunning stopped. Finding someone guilty of a crime or sin, either one, is judging. A judgment is then rendered along with a sentence.
I have been mostly directly involved with homeless/addiction type ministries, never speaking to men that way, calling them names. They are fed a good meal, assigned sleeping space, given fresh clothes, then they are taught the truth in hopes of being born again, then other ministries work to put them back into society gainfully. They soon read for themselves the severity of their sins, and they are usually the first to bring up their type problems in group settings. We explain the Word and answer their questions with prayer always. Women's ministries better deal with women, so I don't know much about that side of it. They are deserving of men's ministries financial support.
I have been mostly directly involved with homeless/addiction type ministries, never speaking to men that way, calling them names. They are fed a good meal, assigned sleeping space, given fresh clothes, then they are taught the truth in hopes of being born again, then other ministries work to put them back into society gainfully. They soon read for themselves the severity of their sins, and they are usually the first to bring up their type problems in group settings. We explain the Word and answer their questions with prayer always. Women's ministries better deal with women, so I don't know much about that side of it. They are deserving of men's ministries financial support.
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.. This is about words of doctrine... Avoid false doctrine, be wise to see truths...in a sense, where do you get judge people out of this? We are not to judge people to hell, I'm not your judge, I don't know where your going or what your doing, God and you do, Judge the sin, not the sinner... There's a difference, big difference...
I just used my good judgment to show your wrong, not to judge you to hell...
my judgement and then there's Gods judgement, who judges the sinner "final judgement"
That's your judgment for yourself to not be fooled, not others...it didn't say because he did these false doctrines kill him!
Thats judgment, it says avoid him, meaning use your "good judgment" for "yourself"to recognize false doctrine and depart from it, not sentence him to judgment... Your confusing words there..
my judgement and then there's Gods judgement, who judges the sinner "final judgement"
That's your judgment for yourself to not be fooled, not others...it didn't say because he did these false doctrines kill him!
Thats judgment, it says avoid him, meaning use your "good judgment" for "yourself"to recognize false doctrine and depart from it, not sentence him to judgment... Your confusing words there..
If we can stop sinning, then why did Christ come? Sin separates us from God. Jesus bridged that by dying on the cross for our sins. If He did not need to, then what was the point of His suffering? What did He take away on the Cross that He became the Lamb of God?
A. 1 Timothy 1:15 (NKJV)
15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
B.
John 1:29 (NKJV)
The Lamb of God
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
C.1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV)
24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.
I understand that perfection as far as the Scripture is concern means maturity in faith. It means it is our duty to keep on trying not to sin. But life is a continuing journey. Along the way, we will definitely stumble and for that, the Salvation on the Cross happened.
A. 1 Timothy 1:15 (NKJV)
15 This is a faithful saying and worthy of all acceptance, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners, of whom I am chief.
B.
John 1:29 (NKJV)
The Lamb of God
29 The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!
C.1 Peter 2:24 (NKJV)
24 who Himself bore our sins in His own body on the tree, that we, having died to sins, might live for righteousness—by whose stripes you were healed.
I understand that perfection as far as the Scripture is concern means maturity in faith. It means it is our duty to keep on trying not to sin. But life is a continuing journey. Along the way, we will definitely stumble and for that, the Salvation on the Cross happened.
Good point. There's a passage in the gospels that startles folks when spoken just before taking communion, the bread and cup memorial. 1 Corinthians 11:27-33 (KJV) [SUP]27 [/SUP] Wherefore whosoever shall eat this bread, and drink this cup of the Lord, unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
Because we are in such a struggle with spiritual entities, not to war against flesh, forever having to resist the Devil and evil thinking to various stages of success, we should judge ourselves daily, letting the Lord chasten. It means that if we are submitted to Him, He will remove us from a sin lifestyle one way or another. Failure to maintain a holy fear (utmost respect with trembling) of the Lord's body and blood given for us shortens lives, leaves folks sick. The Church is set on earth to carry out chastening, in my opinion preferable to falling into the hands of God who will judge us in this life and that to come.
I've taught that in Sunday School lessons at least once a year for 20 years, and it always brings up fear, so plenty of time is reserved in that precious hour to discuss that. It was delivered by Jesus to the 12. It demands judging oneself.
[SUP]28 [/SUP] But let a man examine himself, and so let him eat of that bread, and drink of that cup.
[SUP]29 [/SUP] For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily, eateth and drinketh damnation to himself, not discerning the Lord's body.
[SUP]30 [/SUP] For this cause many are weak and sickly among you, and many sleep.
[SUP]31 [/SUP] For if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
[SUP]32 [/SUP] But when we are judged, we are chastened of the Lord, that we should not be condemned with the world.
[SUP]33 [/SUP] Wherefore, my brethren, when ye come together to eat, tarry one for another.
Because we are in such a struggle with spiritual entities, not to war against flesh, forever having to resist the Devil and evil thinking to various stages of success, we should judge ourselves daily, letting the Lord chasten. It means that if we are submitted to Him, He will remove us from a sin lifestyle one way or another. Failure to maintain a holy fear (utmost respect with trembling) of the Lord's body and blood given for us shortens lives, leaves folks sick. The Church is set on earth to carry out chastening, in my opinion preferable to falling into the hands of God who will judge us in this life and that to come.
I've taught that in Sunday School lessons at least once a year for 20 years, and it always brings up fear, so plenty of time is reserved in that precious hour to discuss that. It was delivered by Jesus to the 12. It demands judging oneself.
It's time to read Romans 1, the rest of Romans going into depth about that chapter.
Romans 1:16-19 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
That shouldn't need explanation. Living in sin is not the Christian way.
Romans 1:24-25 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
This is a message pertaining to all people offered first to the Jews and the gentiles next.
In this generation we have Satan coming along using the same tactic used on Adam and Eve. He perverts truth. We are witnessing a powerful condemnation against the Church, in the guise of no judging allowed, to lose the right to discriminate concerning who we should allow into fellowship. Each of us must judge ungodliness as ungodly and evil, to be avoided. If no judgment of that, we are doomed to lose sight of living by faith, and ability to depart from evil. How? By not separating ourselves from the wicked. The Word identifies the wicked. I don't think we ought to call the wicked names, but we do have commandment to preach the gospel to every person, teaching righteousness. That is being thrown back into the face of the Church because of agreement with Satan, accepting wickedness in our midst. No scripture teaches to tolerate wickness, or accept wickedness as normal behavior. It is to be avoided.
Proverbs 4:14-19 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
Wisdom!
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
[HR][/HR] 1 Corinthians 7:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
It was and still is possible to overcome Satan according to John, writing to Christians in
1 John 2:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
Give walking in righteousness a good try. If Christ is in you, you will succeed. But if there is compromise with sin, there will be no victory.
Beloved Church, resist the lie calling for us to accept perversion as normal and suitable for inclusion in our fellowship. Remember how Paul was directed by God to deal with the man in the Church at Corinth that was known as a fornicator. He was driven out of fellowship. No such sin is to be tolerated, excused, accepted. That principle is dominant throughout scriptures.
Romans 1:16-19 (KJV)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
[SUP]19 [/SUP] Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
That shouldn't need explanation. Living in sin is not the Christian way.
Romans 1:24-25 (KJV)
[SUP]24 [/SUP] Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
[SUP]25 [/SUP] Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
This is a message pertaining to all people offered first to the Jews and the gentiles next.
In this generation we have Satan coming along using the same tactic used on Adam and Eve. He perverts truth. We are witnessing a powerful condemnation against the Church, in the guise of no judging allowed, to lose the right to discriminate concerning who we should allow into fellowship. Each of us must judge ungodliness as ungodly and evil, to be avoided. If no judgment of that, we are doomed to lose sight of living by faith, and ability to depart from evil. How? By not separating ourselves from the wicked. The Word identifies the wicked. I don't think we ought to call the wicked names, but we do have commandment to preach the gospel to every person, teaching righteousness. That is being thrown back into the face of the Church because of agreement with Satan, accepting wickedness in our midst. No scripture teaches to tolerate wickness, or accept wickedness as normal behavior. It is to be avoided.
Proverbs 4:14-19 (KJV)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] Enter not into the path of the wicked, and go not in the way of evil men.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Avoid it, pass not by it, turn from it, and pass away.
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For they sleep not, except they have done mischief; and their sleep is taken away, unless they cause some to fall.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] But the path of the just is as the shining light, that shineth more and more unto the perfect day.
[SUP]19 [/SUP] The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
Wisdom!
Romans 16:17 (KJV)
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
[HR][/HR] 1 Corinthians 7:2 (KJV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
It was and still is possible to overcome Satan according to John, writing to Christians in
1 John 2:13 (KJV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
Give walking in righteousness a good try. If Christ is in you, you will succeed. But if there is compromise with sin, there will be no victory.
Beloved Church, resist the lie calling for us to accept perversion as normal and suitable for inclusion in our fellowship. Remember how Paul was directed by God to deal with the man in the Church at Corinth that was known as a fornicator. He was driven out of fellowship. No such sin is to be tolerated, excused, accepted. That principle is dominant throughout scriptures.
do you need faith to recive grace.
any bible verse to back up you mix and match how can you back out a yes and no answer. it gods grace, not an opinion
when did you enter grace that mades you accountable. when you entered grace,(ie jesus dies fir your sin,) you made god accountable for saving you,
6 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
what condition make you a believer, . and who saves them. and when did it fall on the believer to save them selfs.
again you mix and match idea, falls short of the glory of god. who can instruct god. (you only can become like your teacher not better.) so even if you become like jesus, you were still saved by grace.
The Righteousness of God Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it---22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus
any bible verse to back up you mix and match how can you back out a yes and no answer. it gods grace, not an opinion
when did you enter grace that mades you accountable. when you entered grace,(ie jesus dies fir your sin,) you made god accountable for saving you,
6 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
what condition make you a believer, . and who saves them. and when did it fall on the believer to save them selfs.
again you mix and match idea, falls short of the glory of god. who can instruct god. (you only can become like your teacher not better.) so even if you become like jesus, you were still saved by grace.
The Righteousness of God Through Faith
21 But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it---22 the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction:23 for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus
when you understand how, you entered. then who keeps you in.
it a warning. but you believe god will lieve you high and dry. with religion taboos and dogmas.
that why the new covenant i believe in a saviour.
law never saved me.
so take your religions, taboos and dogmas, and knock on goverments door.
who like making new law. for the living.
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
i stand in eternal gods love, eternal promise.so take you opinion back to basic teaching.
it a warning. but you believe god will lieve you high and dry. with religion taboos and dogmas.
that why the new covenant i believe in a saviour.
law never saved me.
so take your religions, taboos and dogmas, and knock on goverments door.
who like making new law. for the living.
16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.
i stand in eternal gods love, eternal promise.so take you opinion back to basic teaching.
Jesus came to reconcile you back to God where your PAST sins may be forgiven.
Jesus commanded two people in the Gospel to "go and sin no more" and if those two people could stop sinning then so can all of us.
In fact the people of Nineveh turned from their wicked way and called upon God for mercy.
Jon 3:6 For word came unto the king of Nineveh, and he arose from his throne, and he laid his robe from him, and covered him with sackcloth, and sat in ashes.
Jon 3:7 And he caused it to be proclaimed and published through Nineveh by the decree of the king and his nobles, saying, Let neither man nor beast, herd nor flock, taste any thing: let them not feed, nor drink water:
Jon 3:8 But let man and beast be covered with sackcloth, and cry mightily unto God: yea, let them turn every one from his evil way, and from the violence that is in their hands.
Jon 3:9 Who can tell if God will turn and repent, and turn away from his fierce anger, that we perish not?
Jon 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Jesus used Nineveh as an example of repentance...
Mat 12:41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.
If those people could forsake their evil ways then so can we.
Isa 1:16 Wash you, make you clean; put away the evil of your doings from before mine eyes; cease to do evil;
The testimony of scripture seems pretty clear to me, I think it is a matter of whether people want to believe it or not, and I think what underlies that decision is whether an individual wants to keep sinning or not.
We are saved from our past sins via the death of Christ for it is via His blood that we enter into the New Covenant and are given a fresh start washed of our previous transgression (read Hebrews chapters 9 and 10).
We are saved from ongoing sin by the Spirit of life IN Jesus Christ in which we abide walking after the Spirit where we no longer fulfill the lusts of the flesh, having crucified those lusts in repentance.
Rom 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 8:2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
Rom 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
Rom 8:4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Rom 6:5 For if we have been planted together in the likeness of his death, we shall be also in the likeness of his resurrection:
Rom 6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin.
Rom 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin.
1Pe 3:18 For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit:
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1Pe 4:1 Forasmuch then as Christ hath suffered for us in the flesh, arm yourselves likewise with the same mind: for he that hath suffered in the flesh hath ceased from sin;
1Pe 4:2 That he no longer should live the rest of his time in the flesh to the lusts of men, but to the will of God.
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Eph 2:5 Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved
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Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Col 2:12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
Col 2:13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;
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Rom 6:4 Therefore we are buried with him by baptism into death: that like as Christ was raised up from the dead by the glory of the Father, even so we also should walk in newness of life.
Thus in dying to sin we suffer with Christ by which we cease from sin. We are then raised up by the power of God to newness of life wherein we abide in the Spirit of the life of Christ where we no longer fulfill the lusts of the flesh but walk according to the Spirit by a faith that works by love.
That is the standard. That is what we must do. It is the pure in heart who will see God.
You can believe that if you want but all you are doing is presenting an excuse to keep on sinning. The Bible doesn't say "try not to sin," rather it teaches "sin no more...die to sin...yield not your members to unrighteousness." You on the other hand are implying that is not possible because "we will definitely stumble" and that you believe that the cross cloaks ongoing sin because "for that, the Salvation on the Cross happened."
The cross happened because of what the book of Hebrews teaches. It is via the blood we are enjoined into covenant with God and washed clean if we approach God with a true heart in repentance and faith and are thus walking in the light. That is what the Bible teaches. Many wolves will deny that and teach that the sin never stops and the cross is the means by which that is cloaked, they are liars who are deceiving people.
Don't be deceived by a message that tickles your ears. Jesus warned FEW will enter the kingdom because FEW will actually DO what He said to do.
Be a doer and not a hearer only.
Jas 1:21 Wherefore lay apart all filthiness and superfluity of naughtiness, and receive with meekness the engrafted word, which is able to save your souls.
Jas 1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
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