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Have you received Christ? Have you believed that he provided salvation for you by the shedding of His blood?
The word of God says: There is no one who is righteous, not one. That all have sinned and fall short of God's righteous standards. Scripture also states that unless there is a shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness for sins. Jesus, who was without sin, paid the penalty for sin, not His, ours. And for those who have faith in Him, He is credits them with His righteousness, reconciling us to God. Anyone who does not believe in Him, simply remains in their sins with the wrath of God resting upon him, the result being condemning judgment, which is separation from Him in the lake of fire.
The word of God says: There is no one who is righteous, not one. That all have sinned and fall short of God's righteous standards. Scripture also states that unless there is a shedding of blood, there is no forgiveness for sins. Jesus, who was without sin, paid the penalty for sin, not His, ours. And for those who have faith in Him, He is credits them with His righteousness, reconciling us to God. Anyone who does not believe in Him, simply remains in their sins with the wrath of God resting upon him, the result being condemning judgment, which is separation from Him in the lake of fire.
There is one only one punishment after the great white throne judgment, which is separation from God's presence in the lake of fire, also referred to as outer darkness. Some erroneously believe that when one is thrown into the lake of fire that they are immediately burned up, annihilate. But scripture teaches that they will be in eternal fire conscious and aware. Death and life are both states of eternal conscious existence. Eternal punishment is separation from God's presence and punishment in fire. And life is eternal existence in the presence of God and His kingdom and all that he has for us.
The reason for this is that, all sin must be accounted for and because God is a righteous and Just God. For the one who receives Christ as Lord and Savior, Christ was held accountable for their sins. For those who reject Christ and die in that state, they will be held accountable for every sin, every jot and tittle.
The reason for this is that, all sin must be accounted for and because God is a righteous and Just God. For the one who receives Christ as Lord and Savior, Christ was held accountable for their sins. For those who reject Christ and die in that state, they will be held accountable for every sin, every jot and tittle.
Saving them from the result of their sin, eternal damnation which is never to rise to new spirit life forever more is God saving them from his wrath. A dead body is witness to a person was under the wrath of God revealed form heaven all the days of their lives. Its not the first death we are to concern ourselves with but the second death the destruction of our spirit the essence of life, again..... never to rise to new spirit life forever.Dead men cannot actively suffer without a spirit or a body.
I have been re thinking the doctrine of eternal suffering which does not seem to pan out.
He was wounded (God cannot die) by the Father for our transgressions, he was bruised by the father for our iniquities’ the chastisement of our peace was upon him and by his stripes (not death) we are healed of an eternal debt. This is not in reference to the human hands laid on Him or the nails, as if the Satan inspired crowd had something to do with His sacrifice.
The first death is inevitable, in Adam all die, while in Christ as many as the father gave the Son will come.
He accomplished the work in respect to the Father and Son alone. He did not die of the crucifixion but voluntary gave up the Spirit when he finished all the work, His Spirit returned to the Father who gave it to the son of man. Christ was punished by God for our sins. He was wounded for the second death, the most terrible punishment imaginable which as a spiritual work of pouring out His Spirit life. It was not a work we could see with our eyes but rather a demonstration of the unseen work . We have evidence of that work not seen. Again “unto death” God cannot die
Matthew 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
He threw himself to the ground as he experienced the pangs of hell, also called the belly of the earth .
Luk 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Again a work of pouring out his Spirit according to the promise .Sweating to indicate he was working. While "as if it were" blood indicates blood was used to represent that not seen the Spirit. The words above(Luk 22:44); “Was as it were”, in that verse indicates a parable is in view and the proper interpreting prescription must be used as it is in every parable that hides the spiritual meaning from the lost. Therefore using the temporal things seen (blood) to reveal the spiritual meaning not seen the eternal (Spirit) hid in that parable .
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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I have been re thinking the doctrine of eternal suffering which does not seem to pan out.
He was wounded (God cannot die) by the Father for our transgressions, he was bruised by the father for our iniquities’ the chastisement of our peace was upon him and by his stripes (not death) we are healed of an eternal debt. This is not in reference to the human hands laid on Him or the nails, as if the Satan inspired crowd had something to do with His sacrifice.
The first death is inevitable, in Adam all die, while in Christ as many as the father gave the Son will come.
He accomplished the work in respect to the Father and Son alone. He did not die of the crucifixion but voluntary gave up the Spirit when he finished all the work, His Spirit returned to the Father who gave it to the son of man. Christ was punished by God for our sins. He was wounded for the second death, the most terrible punishment imaginable which as a spiritual work of pouring out His Spirit life. It was not a work we could see with our eyes but rather a demonstration of the unseen work . We have evidence of that work not seen. Again “unto death” God cannot die
Matthew 26:38 Then saith he unto them, My soul is exceeding sorrowful, even unto death: tarry ye here, and watch with me.
He threw himself to the ground as he experienced the pangs of hell, also called the belly of the earth .
Luk 22:44 And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
Again a work of pouring out his Spirit according to the promise .Sweating to indicate he was working. While "as if it were" blood indicates blood was used to represent that not seen the Spirit. The words above(Luk 22:44); “Was as it were”, in that verse indicates a parable is in view and the proper interpreting prescription must be used as it is in every parable that hides the spiritual meaning from the lost. Therefore using the temporal things seen (blood) to reveal the spiritual meaning not seen the eternal (Spirit) hid in that parable .
2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.
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Garee, Rev.20:11-15 demonstrates that the unrighteous dead will be resurrected and will exist in the lake of fire with those resurrected bodies. There is no such thing as annihilation, as scripture does not teach this. Annilation, non existence would be no punishment for sinning against an eternal God. People already commit suicide thinking that they are going to fade to black and become non existent. So it would be no punishment for them to just become non existent. You can't experience the smoke of your torment rising up forever and ever unless you exist. It is the same when the scripture says that they will have no rest day or night. One would have to be existing in order to experience no rest day or night. Where do you people get your logic from? The word "punishment" requires conscious awareness. For you can't be punished if you don't exist.
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He is not only the God of the Jews, but of the Gentiles as well, since there is only one God. Understand that God created all things and all people. Everything belongs to God. He is the One who gives life. Because God created all people, everyone who comes into this world will have to give an account to God. Since everyone is guilty of sin, then anyone who rejects God's way of salvation will be held accountable for their sins.
"Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too" - Rom.3:29
"Is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles too? Yes, of Gentiles too" - Rom.3:29
Amen! Me too. Why should I call upon a Savior if I don't see my need of salvation? Salvation from what? Sin. Sin? What's the big deal with sin? Sin leads to everlasting damnation in hell upon death. You see, I need a Savior to save me from the death of hell unto eternal life with the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
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I choose to be Christian because of God's love not the threat of hell.
When people tried to say I was going to hell, i just said I would see them there.
So that type of evangelism never worked for me. It took logic, patience and love of a friend who took the time to answer my questions and pray with me to get me to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
When people tried to say I was going to hell, i just said I would see them there.
So that type of evangelism never worked for me. It took logic, patience and love of a friend who took the time to answer my questions and pray with me to get me to accept Jesus as my Lord and Savior.
Hell is not a concept! Its a fact! However we describes it. It is the place where all who are staying there will be for ever sepereatet from God!
If something going to sink in the water, dont need a explanation that he will sink and die. He understand that you through the savety ring and he hold it he will be saved. In so far with pictures spoken, everybody who lives without Jesus is going to sink and die. At the end of the death is not the death which means end of existence, but eternal seperation from God.
The most people sinks but do not recocnize that they do it.
The Gospel says: You are going to sink and die, but if you take the savety ring ( God loves you and send his Son Jesus Christ and if you believe in Jesus) you will be saved. John 3,16 John not mentioned hell, but he mentioned to be lost for ever/perish.
If you telling only the half gospel, you maby better tell no Gopsel. Even that some people came to God without telling them that they come to hell if they dont repent. But we have to be careful, that we are not falling down on the other side of the Horse. If we are only telling from hell, is so wrong as if we are only talking from love. Both belongs together for to understand the gospel. My opinion. And God has his own methode to call people, we cant create methods ore strategies.
If something going to sink in the water, dont need a explanation that he will sink and die. He understand that you through the savety ring and he hold it he will be saved. In so far with pictures spoken, everybody who lives without Jesus is going to sink and die. At the end of the death is not the death which means end of existence, but eternal seperation from God.
The most people sinks but do not recocnize that they do it.
The Gospel says: You are going to sink and die, but if you take the savety ring ( God loves you and send his Son Jesus Christ and if you believe in Jesus) you will be saved. John 3,16 John not mentioned hell, but he mentioned to be lost for ever/perish.
If you telling only the half gospel, you maby better tell no Gopsel. Even that some people came to God without telling them that they come to hell if they dont repent. But we have to be careful, that we are not falling down on the other side of the Horse. If we are only telling from hell, is so wrong as if we are only talking from love. Both belongs together for to understand the gospel. My opinion. And God has his own methode to call people, we cant create methods ore strategies.
Hell is EXACTLY that. The complete and utter absence of God. AND everything HE created that is good.
We have no concept what that will be like. But all He has given you, air to breathe, water to drink, the ability to sleep, and hope, and dream, and love...and SO MUCH MORE. He will grant your request. That you want nothing to do with Him, or His created gifts, the most beautiful, incredible, loving of which is His Son, who died for YOU, so that you can be with Him, instead of utterly devoid of Him.
We have no concept what that will be like. But all He has given you, air to breathe, water to drink, the ability to sleep, and hope, and dream, and love...and SO MUCH MORE. He will grant your request. That you want nothing to do with Him, or His created gifts, the most beautiful, incredible, loving of which is His Son, who died for YOU, so that you can be with Him, instead of utterly devoid of Him.
God Himself is not punishing the people who were rebellious against Him,for God lays no finger on them in the afterlife,and He said,He takes no pleasure in the death of the wicked.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD(the millennial reign of Christ,Jesus and the saints ruling over the people that are left of the nations that attacked Israel,in which they have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship the LORD,and keep the feast of tabernacles).
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
This is concerning the battle of Armageddon,when the beast,and all who follow him go against Israel,for God turned Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and the beast persecutes all people that hold the testimony that Jesus is Lord and Savior,and Israel is the last step to the beast in getting rid of all that is called God,and all who hold the testimony of Jesus,that dwell upon earth.
The ones that trangressed against God that went against Israel,their worm shall never die,which means they will feel the affect of the flesh for eternity.The saints will have a glorified body being with Jesus,and will feel all that God has to offer in peace,love,and joy,but those that loved the world,and things of the flesh,will feel the affects of the flesh for all eternity.
They will feel the fire as the flesh feels the fire.
Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Psa 139:9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
Psa 139:10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
Psa 139:11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
Psa 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
1Ki 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
And also God is an omnipresent Spirit,so He is everywhere,so if He did want to directly punish the people in hell,He could do it.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Hell is prepared for the devil and his angels,but Satan dragged the wicked of mankind in to it,by tempting Eve,and then Eve tempted Adam,in which they both sinned,and all their offspring had a choice then between good,and evil,which Eve is the mother of all living.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
Creation testifies that there is a God,and His attributes,which one of them is love,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing,and shelter,which covers the universal law,love God,and love people,so the world is without excuse,which the Bible says,love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,and those that name the name of Christ must depart from iniquity,cease from sinning by the Spirit,love God.
Which creation testifies against all ungodliness,and unrighteousness,and that is why Jesus said,that those who did not care about people,to love them,feeding them,clothing them,and anything to help them with their needs,is the same as if they would not do the same for Jesus,so they cannot dwell with Him,and will face the same place that the devils will go for they also do not care about people.
Luk 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
Luk 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luk 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
All who loved God,and loved people,and did the right thing,might have suffering,and weeping,and persecution,but they shall no more when they are with Jesus,but all those who did not love God to cease from sin,did not love people to help them with their needs,belittling them,cutting them down,exalting themselves above them,fighting with them,stealing from them,loving money,and material things,living high on the hog,while the world is suffering,and the such,shall mourn,and weep,and have trouble when they perish from this earth.
Those that shall exalt themselves shall be humbled,and those who humble themselves shall be exalted.
So I say to the world if you want to prosper in the afterlife,Let's get ready to humble.
Isa 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD(the millennial reign of Christ,Jesus and the saints ruling over the people that are left of the nations that attacked Israel,in which they have to go up year after year to Jerusalem to worship the LORD,and keep the feast of tabernacles).
Isa 66:24 And they shall go forth, and look upon the carcases of the men that have transgressed against me: for their worm shall not die, neither shall their fire be quenched; and they shall be an abhorring unto all flesh.
This is concerning the battle of Armageddon,when the beast,and all who follow him go against Israel,for God turned Israel to the truth that Jesus is their Messiah,and the beast persecutes all people that hold the testimony that Jesus is Lord and Savior,and Israel is the last step to the beast in getting rid of all that is called God,and all who hold the testimony of Jesus,that dwell upon earth.
The ones that trangressed against God that went against Israel,their worm shall never die,which means they will feel the affect of the flesh for eternity.The saints will have a glorified body being with Jesus,and will feel all that God has to offer in peace,love,and joy,but those that loved the world,and things of the flesh,will feel the affects of the flesh for all eternity.
They will feel the fire as the flesh feels the fire.
Psa 139:7 Whither shall I go from thy spirit? or whither shall I flee from thy presence?
Psa 139:8 If I ascend up into heaven, thou art there: if I make my bed in hell, behold, thou art there.
Psa 139:9 If I take the wings of the morning, and dwell in the uttermost parts of the sea;
Psa 139:10 Even there shall thy hand lead me, and thy right hand shall hold me.
Psa 139:11 If I say, Surely the darkness shall cover me; even the night shall be light about me.
Psa 139:12 Yea, the darkness hideth not from thee; but the night shineth as the day: the darkness and the light are both alike to thee.
1Ki 8:27 But will God indeed dwell on the earth? behold, the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain thee; how much less this house that I have builded?
And also God is an omnipresent Spirit,so He is everywhere,so if He did want to directly punish the people in hell,He could do it.
Mat 25:41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
Mat 25:42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
Mat 25:43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
Mat 25:44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
Mat 25:45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
Mat 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Hell is prepared for the devil and his angels,but Satan dragged the wicked of mankind in to it,by tempting Eve,and then Eve tempted Adam,in which they both sinned,and all their offspring had a choice then between good,and evil,which Eve is the mother of all living.
Rom 1:17 For therein is the righteousness of God revealed from faith to faith: as it is written, The just shall live by faith.
Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
Rom 1:21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
Rom 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools.
Creation testifies that there is a God,and His attributes,which one of them is love,for He provided food,and the means to make clothing,and shelter,which covers the universal law,love God,and love people,so the world is without excuse,which the Bible says,love works no ill towards their neighbor,therefore love is the fulfilling of the law,and those that name the name of Christ must depart from iniquity,cease from sinning by the Spirit,love God.
Which creation testifies against all ungodliness,and unrighteousness,and that is why Jesus said,that those who did not care about people,to love them,feeding them,clothing them,and anything to help them with their needs,is the same as if they would not do the same for Jesus,so they cannot dwell with Him,and will face the same place that the devils will go for they also do not care about people.
Luk 6:20 And he lifted up his eyes on his disciples, and said, Blessed be ye poor: for yours is the kingdom of God.
Luk 6:21 Blessed are ye that hunger now: for ye shall be filled. Blessed are ye that weep now: for ye shall laugh.
Luk 6:22 Blessed are ye, when men shall hate you, and when they shall separate you from their company, and shall reproach you, and cast out your name as evil, for the Son of man's sake.
Luk 6:23 Rejoice ye in that day, and leap for joy: for, behold, your reward is great in heaven: for in the like manner did their fathers unto the prophets.
Luk 6:24 But woe unto you that are rich! for ye have received your consolation.
Luk 6:25 Woe unto you that are full! for ye shall hunger. Woe unto you that laugh now! for ye shall mourn and weep.
Luk 6:26 Woe unto you, when all men shall speak well of you! for so did their fathers to the false prophets.
All who loved God,and loved people,and did the right thing,might have suffering,and weeping,and persecution,but they shall no more when they are with Jesus,but all those who did not love God to cease from sin,did not love people to help them with their needs,belittling them,cutting them down,exalting themselves above them,fighting with them,stealing from them,loving money,and material things,living high on the hog,while the world is suffering,and the such,shall mourn,and weep,and have trouble when they perish from this earth.
Those that shall exalt themselves shall be humbled,and those who humble themselves shall be exalted.
So I say to the world if you want to prosper in the afterlife,Let's get ready to humble.
Children typically don't have the capacity to reason through the possibility of consequences. They do typically have the capacity to understand pain and avoid it. This capacity and inclination to avoid pain remains with us, even after we develop the capacity to consider consequences before they occur.