How can God justify the ungodly and still maintain His integrity to His law?

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How can God justify the ungodly [Romans 4:5] and still maintain His integrity to His holy law which condemns sinners [Galatians 3:10]? I ask this because the law of God clearly prohibits an innocent man dying for the guilty:

Ez 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die: the son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him.
One of the reasons that i reject Paul as a teacher of the truth, as Jesus did in Mathew
(Mat 5:18 BBE) Truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth come to an end, not the smallest letter or part of a letter will in any way be taken from the law, till all things are done.

(Mat 5:19 BBE) Whoever then goes against the smallest of these laws, teaching men to do the same, will be named least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who keeps the laws, teaching others to keep them, will be named great in the kingdom of heaven.
 

onlinebuddy

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I made some changes....Do you agree?
I almost agree.

You have removed the words "in this Church age."(I guess another discussion is coming on)

condemned (by the law).
I believe that the words of Jesus is law. John 12:48
In fact, Jesus has raised the standard of the law. So I guess I do not have a problem.
 

onlinebuddy

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It's over in the sense that God has legally introduced a "better covenant", but there are folks today who think they do not need the righteousness of Christ. Hence, they have rejected the new covenant (a better covenant) and are therefore still under the old covenant. The covenants are not conditional upon time. That's the heresy of dispensionalism. Everyone who rejects Christ rejects the new covenant. Therefore they remain under the law.

Q1. What does "not under the Law" mean?
Interpretation 1: Not under the penalty of the moral law
Interpretation 2: Not obligated to the entire legal contract, or Old Covenant (Agreement) with all its terms and conditions and penalties for violating the terms.
I believe in interpretation 2.

Q2. Whom is the Law applicable to?
Interpretation 1: All mankind without an exception
Interpretation 2: Only the Jews.
I believe in interpretation 2. The Jews had about 1500 years to prove that they could keep the law, and that salvation can be obtained by performance. They failed. Therefore no man has an excuse for rejecting salvation by grace(Christ), by saying, "I can do it by myself." That boast has been removed. By removing that boast, the law pointed towards a Savior.
Hence, they have rejected the new covenant (a better covenant) and are therefore still under the old covenant
Everyone who rejects Christ rejects the new covenant. Therefore they remain under the law
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Anyone (non-believers included) who rejects the New Covenant, is under the penalty of the New Covenant (and not under the Old Covenant). The penalty of the new covenant is condemnation or eternal damnation. [John 3:18, John 12:48]


Q3. What is sin?
Transgression of the law written on tablets
Transgression of the law written on the heart
Knowing the good that one ought to do and not doing it
All wrongdoing
lawlessness
I accept all 5 definitions.
Note that the context of 1 John 3 was not the law. The context was: do not go in sinning.

The covenants are not conditional upon time. That's the heresy of dispensionalism.
The covenants are conditional upon time. The old covenant was exclusively for Jews and for the time before Jesus.
The new covenant is for the present age of grace, which many call the Church Age. The age of grace of the gentiles is temporary. We do not know it's duration. Romans 11 tells us that once the gentiles (ingrafted branches)have had their chance to repent, God will start dealing with the Jews(natural branches) again. The Jews who respond and believe in Jesus as their Messiah, and repent, will be saved. Those Jews who reject the new covenant are under the old covenant, which was given to them and for them.
I don't bother about man-made terminology such as "dispensionalism." Yes I understand that trying to put everyone under the law is legalism. Legalism leads to heresy. Note that the penalty for some sins, say adultery, under the law was stoning to death. So let's not play with the law.