How old and big is Jesus?

[RobbyEarl]

Man book writers oh well.

 

[Tintin]

The way you worded this, just doesn't sound right.
To say God has no beginning, then say, He is the beginning, almost sounds contradictory and like He did have a beginning of days.
Not that I see it that way, I'm just saying it's how it come across as saying.

Okay, let me elaborate on that point. God is the beginning and end of all things. As God is outside His creation, He has no beginning. God has no beginning because 'beginning' implies that time existed and God created time. Before God, there was nothing. Not even time.

 

[redeemed2014]

Incarnate, personified, when Jesus said that he and his Father are one that might pertain to being just one in union or agreememnt with each other rather than being one and the same person?, it is how one chooses to interpret the Holy Bible. How can something everlasting die?

Well your interpretation is adding a word in the scripture, I am taking it by what is wrote which is that the Lord Jesus Christ and the Father are one! What do you mean how can something everlasting die? Are you talking about the Lord Jesus Christ? because brother he is not dead he defeated death with the Resurrection. Are you trying to tell us that the Lord is not risen?

 

[redeemed2014]

Actually it is a soul, but I'll let you explain exactly what you mean by the 'spirit' within since it appears that you think that I was misrepresenting what Jesus was saying when in Luke 24:36-40
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.

Is the spirit an actual form of matter of this physical world or is it the same substance that God formed the universe from. So if they thought they saw a spirit then apparently they saw something but why would they be scared of him since they expected his resurrection?




Ok, not trying to refute what you are saying, but I am dwelling in the flesh and my own physical body which originated from my biological parents yet it is not their flesh but my own.

For the life of the flesh is in the blood: Lev 17:11

Yet maybe the LORD put in on your heart that you are not in the flesh and I don't won't to argue against what the LORD has told you. After all the scriptures say that without the spirit the flesh is dead. Yet in addition to the blood, there is the spirit and the water* these give life to the flesh of all creatures wherein their nostrils is the breath of life according to Genesis 7:13-15;

13 In the selfsame day entered Noah, and Shem, and Ham, and Japheth, the sons of Noah, and Noah's wife, and the three wives of his sons with them, into the ark;
14 They, and every beast after his kind, and all the cattle after their kind, and every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind, and every fowl after his kind, every bird of every sort.
15 And they went in unto Noah into the ark, two and two of all flesh, wherein is the breath of life.


*1 John 5:8
And there are three that bear witness in earth, the spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.


Likewise I am of my heavenly Father but I am not my heavenly Father yet you are saying that "i know he is in me!" so can you explain what you mean by that?

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

We are a new creation, Yes we are in the flesh currently but we do not live after the flesh but we live after the Spirit.

Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,

1 John 4:13 Hereby know we that we dwell in him, and he in us, because he hath given us of his Spirit.

Also I am at a loss of why you posted about the life of the flesh is in the blood can you please elaborate on that. I never said that we were not human beings living in fleshly body's on earth.

 

[Zmouth]

As God is outside His creation, He has no beginning.

According to science, the universe has always existed since it claims that matter can not be created nor destroyed, yet it change forms.

Your argument that the eternal God can change forms only is only heard as support of their (scientific) truth by those that hold the belief the universe always existed therefore no God was needed for it's creation nor for necessary for it's existence.

Hopefully you won't claim that they think the universe began 14.5 billion years ago, they only believe that it started again after it imploded and condensed into that primordial atom from which all space, matter, energy and time expanded from to form the universe as we now see it. And which they believe will happen again at some point in time, and will happen again for the remainder of time.

As far as the claim that there was nothing before this universe, I can tell you that they agree with you on that too, but that is because they include God as being nothing but an imaginary belief without any substance in reality or having any truth to His existence.

Yet, if there were nothing in before the universe began then what is 1 Tim 6:16 referring unto about the Son "dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see: "

 

[Zmouth]

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.

So where does the Spirit of God dwell in us at? Just tap on your nose if I would be right to say that because we might see things different doesn't mean things are different.

Also I am at a loss of why you posted about the life of the flesh is in the blood can you please elaborate on that. .

It is a reference to 1 Thess 4 and the ionized matter necessary for the life of the flesh.

Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit,
I never said that we were not human beings living in fleshly body's on earth.

I obviously misread what your wrote then, my apologies.