Is it always like this here?
- Thread starter Sirk
- Start date
-
Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.
If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!
To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
I must not have seen this thread. Which one is it? 
Well.......not that this excuses anything, but did not Jesus, Paul and other men of the bible rake "hairy tics" over the coals.....no one ever wants to admit error...it is a humbling experience to state publically....Hey, I am wrong and you are right.....and without a doubt the following statement will catch heat....
THERE is only ONE truth concerning anything and everything to be found in the bible....and when we are honest with the truth we will all come to the same conclusions concerning the truth......
A hard pill to swallow for sure....
Having said that....the truth must be defended....maybe more tact and to be honest..at times it seems best to just quote verses without commentary......let the bible speak for itself because---> for sure God has the last say....
AMEN????
THERE is only ONE truth concerning anything and everything to be found in the bible....and when we are honest with the truth we will all come to the same conclusions concerning the truth......
A hard pill to swallow for sure....
Having said that....the truth must be defended....maybe more tact and to be honest..at times it seems best to just quote verses without commentary......let the bible speak for itself because---> for sure God has the last say....
AMEN????
A few thoughts. When Clinton was president he had to fire this lady that he had appointed a particular position, and she was a friend of Hillarys. She had said things that were outlandish and certainly unchristian like, imagine Clinton having to fire someone for saying immoral things? Anyway, I watched the woman on TV several times and I disagreed completely with her ideas, however I found that I liked her, and my memory of her has always been good. Why? Because she was always respectful and polite when she spoke...ALWAYS.
I get the inkling sometimes that others have a very different idea than me of what being fruitful and producing fruit is.
I think they love God and feel they aren;t producing fruit for Him and sometimes I see that they are producing more fruit for him than those who think they are producing a lot.
They think that they need to go and preach the gospel to someone to produce fruit for God. Or that they need to go and do good works like in an area of need in the community. These are necessary things, do not misunderstand what I am saying. Preaching the gospel is sowing seed. It is not producing fruit. It can lead to someone else producing fruit for God, so there is some sort of overlapping in what I'm trying to say, but sowing seed is sowing seed and producing fruit is producing fruit.
When I am sowing seed (which we all do, even those of us who do not preach, and often we are sowing seed without words by how we act, as with the man who said: preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.)
But each of us is the tree that God wants fruit from and wants to get even more fruit from with His pruning and this fruit is not sowing seed. This fruit is the fruits of the Spirit. You can see the humblest person cleaning the church and that humility is fruit, while you can see someone who preaches and teaches and goes and does all manner of good works in the community but is not growing in humility, meekness, kindness, mercy, so they aren't producing fruit for God. (No, I am not saying that there are no people who do these things who don't also produce fruit for God!) I am saying that I quite often see those who produce massive amounts of fruit and become more and more fruitful by leaps and bounds who think they produce no fruit for their Lord when they produce reams of it! 2 Peter 1:8 is the scripture that talks about this - if these things are in you and are increasing, you will not be unfruitful.
The reverse of that would be doing many good works and volunteering everywhere and preaching and teaching and getting the idea that you are producing fruit by this when you are not growing in fruit at all and are really full of yourself and temperamental and nasty!
I think they love God and feel they aren;t producing fruit for Him and sometimes I see that they are producing more fruit for him than those who think they are producing a lot.
They think that they need to go and preach the gospel to someone to produce fruit for God. Or that they need to go and do good works like in an area of need in the community. These are necessary things, do not misunderstand what I am saying. Preaching the gospel is sowing seed. It is not producing fruit. It can lead to someone else producing fruit for God, so there is some sort of overlapping in what I'm trying to say, but sowing seed is sowing seed and producing fruit is producing fruit.
When I am sowing seed (which we all do, even those of us who do not preach, and often we are sowing seed without words by how we act, as with the man who said: preach the gospel at all times. If necessary, use words.)
But each of us is the tree that God wants fruit from and wants to get even more fruit from with His pruning and this fruit is not sowing seed. This fruit is the fruits of the Spirit. You can see the humblest person cleaning the church and that humility is fruit, while you can see someone who preaches and teaches and goes and does all manner of good works in the community but is not growing in humility, meekness, kindness, mercy, so they aren't producing fruit for God. (No, I am not saying that there are no people who do these things who don't also produce fruit for God!) I am saying that I quite often see those who produce massive amounts of fruit and become more and more fruitful by leaps and bounds who think they produce no fruit for their Lord when they produce reams of it! 2 Peter 1:8 is the scripture that talks about this - if these things are in you and are increasing, you will not be unfruitful.
The reverse of that would be doing many good works and volunteering everywhere and preaching and teaching and getting the idea that you are producing fruit by this when you are not growing in fruit at all and are really full of yourself and temperamental and nasty!
