Is it Mandatory we only use the Hebrew name Yeshua?

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JaumeJ

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We are not to destroy ourselves wwith what is falsely called knowledge. Therefore we study to understand as best given each of us just how extensive the blessings of Yahweh are to all of us, even to unbelievers.

I suppose others do not see the wonder of prophecy in the name of our Savior's brith city, Bethleham. This is fromt he Hebreew, Beit Lechem, and it translates from that transliteration as "House of Bread." Not only was our Lord born there, He referred to Himself as the Bread from Heaven.

The actual meanings of many of the forefathers' names are mentioned in detail in the Word, and the meanings demonstrate the paths and characters of many.

Abraham may be fully translated as the Honored Father of manyPeoples (nations.) Reverence to our Father, Abraham, is not only giving this man honor, it refers also to our Father in heaven.

I am not saying anyone needs to study Hebrew by any means, nor would I give any more credence to a brother or sister who is astute in Greek, for it is the Holy Spirit Who teaches us each all we need know. When I did read teh Word in Hebrew, the great blessings and revelations were the same as I already knew or suspected because teh HOly Spirit did teach me first........

Out of eing a person who attempts to be a steward of the Word, I tend to study a bit morethan some, so always rember it is not knowing more facts that saves anyone, it is the Blood of Jesus Christ, and His teaching by His HOly Spirit. They does not take away from know more about prophecy due to study.

No...

But there is tremendous value and meaning in using the name Yeshua. It is closer to what He was called than "Jesus." I think it would be great if more people referred to Him as Yeshua, or the character qualities His name means. For many Christians, there seems to be an aversion to calling Jesus Yeshua, or God Yahweh. There is often a reluctance to using Hebrew words for fear it is too "Jewish."
 

trofimus

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No...

But there is tremendous value and meaning in using the name Yeshua. It is closer to what He was called than "Jesus." I think it would be great if more people referred to Him as Yeshua, or the character qualities His name means. For many Christians, there seems to be an aversion to calling Jesus Yeshua, or God Yahweh. There is often a reluctance to using Hebrew words for fear it is too "Jewish."
Can you show me that tremendous value?

Why would that be great?

There is a reluctance, because people, who are using the hebrew words are mostly bringing more from judaism into Christianity, not just names. So experience says that it is "too Jewish" in the end.
 
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Why only Yeshua??? Can we use the Name Jesus in other languages?

Where in the Scriptures does God say we are to only use the name Yeshau?
I've used the name "Jesus" all my live, as has everybody I know. I'm not offended if someone else knows him by another name. I wasn't aware there was a problem.
 

KohenMatt

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No...

But there is tremendous value and meaning in using the name Yeshua. It is closer to what He was called than "Jesus." I think it would be great if more people referred to Him as Yeshua, or the character qualities His name means. For many Christians, there seems to be an aversion to calling Jesus Yeshua, or God Yahweh. There is often a reluctance to using Hebrew words for fear it is too "Jewish."
Can you show me that tremendous value?

Why would that be great?
Really? You don't see a value in calling someone by their native language name as opposed to our own?

What does the name "Yeshua" mean?
What does the name "Jesus" mean?
Would someone from a different country rather be called by their actual name (even if it's mis-pronounced,) or a name from a different language?

If you think I'm saying we have to call Jesus "Yeshua," slow your roll, because I'm not saying that.
 
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JaumeJ

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We as believers of Jesus Christ have been brought together with the Children of Israel as one people of God. AS is written in Ephesians we have become feelow heirs with Israel of the Kingdom. The capital of the holy Kingdome is New Jersalem. Is not Jesus Christ the Good Shepherd? Did He not say He had "another flock", the Gentiles, the He was going to bring together with the Original flock, Israel?

If anything too much of non-believing Gentiles has been introduced into our heitage, that is, the faith of Abraham as taught by Jesus Christ.

No you do not need to learn Hebrew, but you should never deny the language of the first Assemblies in Christ, and it waa Hebrew for the longest time in those synagogues that accepted Jesus Christ, and the gentiles in varied countries were allied with those Jews who believe Jesus Christ.

Do not say Juidaism is creeping into Christianity, when Judaism today is just as divided as is Christianity, into varied sects. At the time of our Lo9rd and Savior's advent, there was no such thing as Judaism, although the cults were alrealdy forming, Sadducees and Pharisees.........

Never curse any of the children of Israel for being what you consider Jewish, it is written to bless sthem, and bless them and all nations I will.......I pray your heart is such to do the same.


Can you show me that tremendous value?

Why would that be great?

There is a reluctance, because people, who are using the hebrew words are mostly bringing more from judaism into Christianity, not just names. So experience says that it is "too Jewish" in the end.
 
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LaurenTM

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this is really a matter of personal preference IMO

not something to bicker over or exalt oneself over

God has different names in the Bible, meaning different things

at times, He is referred to in the plural...elohim

at other times not

honestly, there are not stars given out for using one name or another

all the same though,

there is only ONE Name given under heaven whereby we may be saved

and how about this:

11I saw heaven standing open and there before me was a white horse, whose rider is called Faithful and True. With justice he judges and wages war.

12His eyes are like blazing fire, and on his head are many crowns. He has a name written on him that no one knows but he himself.

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He is dressed in a robe dipped in blood, and his name is the Word of God.

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The armies of heaven were following him, riding on white horses and dressed in fine linen, white and clean.

15Coming out of his mouth is a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations. “He will rule them with an iron scepter.”[SUP]a[/SUP] He treads the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God Almighty.

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On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written:

KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

Revelation 19
 

JaumeJ

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I apologize to all the brethren if my posts do not contain blessings I have received fromt heWord shared in love with all.

Although all of my posts have said indirectly and directly that it is not necessary to call Jesus any particular name. God bless all who are in Jesus Christ, amen.
 
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FreeNChrist

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It's all so silly. Jesus is fine with whatever people call Him in their own language. Do people really think He won't know they mean Him? It's the Person, Jesus, who is identified by the name who is important, not the name itself. Jesus is not a legalist.
 
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Jesus is the name translated from the Greek language. Therefore it makes no difference if you use the Hebrew name or the Greek name. Its the Heart that counts.

You can use the Hebrew name all day long, but if your Heart is not right with God its a waste of time.
 

trofimus

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Really? You don't see a value in calling someone by their native language name as opposed to our own?

What does the name "Yeshua" mean?
What does the name "Jesus" mean?
Would someone from a different country rather be called by their actual name (even if it's mis-pronounced,) or a name from a different language?

If you think I'm saying we have to call Jesus "Yeshua," slow your roll, because I'm not saying that.

I am from a different country and I know you cant pronounce my name correctly in Czech and I dont care.

So that tremendous value is rather emotional? That God will be more pleased when you talk to Him in Hebrew?

I think God is above such small things.
 

trofimus

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We as believers of Jesus Christ have been brought together with the Children of Israel as one people of God. AS is written in Ephesians we have become feelow heirs with Israel of the Kingdom. The capital of the holy Kingdome is New Jersalem. Is not Jesus Christ the Good Shepherd? Did He not say He had "another flock", the Gentiles, the He was going to bring together with the Original flock, Israel?

If anything too much of non-believing Gentiles has been introduced into our heitage, that is, the faith of Abraham as taught by Jesus Christ.

No you do not need to learn Hebrew, but you should never deny the language of the first Assemblies in Christ, and it waa Hebrew for the longest time in those synagogues that accepted Jesus Christ, and the gentiles in varied countries were allied with those Jews who believe Jesus Christ.

Do not say Juidaism is creeping into Christianity, when Judaism today is just as divided as is Christianity, into varied sects. At the time of our Lo9rd and Savior's advent, there was no such thing as Judaism, although the cults were alrealdy forming, Sadducees and Pharisees.........

Never curse any of the children of Israel for being what you consider Jewish, it is written to bless sthem, and bless them and all nations I will.......I pray your heart is such to do the same.
Adam is more original than Israel, I think. We dont need to become Jews to be God´s people. There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ anymore.
 

tanakh

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It's common for Chinese people to take new names when they move to other countries, because their original names are hard to pronounce for non Chinese speakers. Names are used for identification - what matters is to identify the person correctly. When we say "Jesus" everybody knows that we are talking about the Son of God, even though his original name was Yeshua or Eashoa.
Very True. We used to go to a Chinese Restaurant. The owner called himself Steve. We never found out what his real name was because we felt it might seem impolite to inquire.

This idea of calling Jesus Yeshua is common among Messianic Jewish congregations. It is starting to creep into other places. I don't know why but suspect they might feel more Holy by using it. Messianic bibles take it further by calling every person by their Hebrew names which makes reading one very wearisome. Another odd trait is
suddenly using G-d instead of God.
 

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If the Name of "Jesus" was offensive to HIM because we have not used Yeshua or some say Yeshiva then please explained the following:

1. why did God allow HIS word to be translated in to more then one language
2. Why does the Holy Spirit save those who call on Jesus name in English and not only when they hear the name in the Greek or Hebrew?
3. HOw come God only has the ability to hear is Name called in one language if HE is all knowing?

If you have the answer to all of these question and can show me biblically in context; That would be very impressive
 
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since I was a child, I was told to call my Heavenly Father, Jesus, for me this means my
Best Friend, my Saviour, the Love of my Life also, and The Creator of who we all are...

other people of other languages may address and admire Him in their own way...
may God Bless Them...
 
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TonyJay

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Very True. We used to go to a Chinese Restaurant. The owner called himself Steve. We never found out what his real name was because we felt it might seem impolite to inquire.

This idea of calling Jesus Yeshua is common among Messianic Jewish congregations. It is starting to creep into other places. I don't know why but suspect they might feel more Holy by using it. Messianic bibles take it further by calling every person by their Hebrew names which makes reading one very wearisome. Another odd trait is
suddenly using G-d instead of God.
That is true, however, no Messianic Jew that I know (several hundred) insist on others doing the same.
They also share none of the odd views expressed by disciplemike and the other Judaizers currently proselytising on this forum.
 

KohenMatt

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I am from a different country and I know you cant pronounce my name correctly in Czech and I dont care.

So that tremendous value is rather emotional? That God will be more pleased when you talk to Him in Hebrew?

I think God is above such small things.
Did I say anything about God being "more pleased?"

No.
 
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LaurenTM

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Very True. We used to go to a Chinese Restaurant. The owner called himself Steve. We never found out what his real name was because we felt it might seem impolite to inquire.

This idea of calling Jesus Yeshua is common among Messianic Jewish congregations. It is starting to creep into other places. I don't know why but suspect they might feel more Holy by using it. Messianic bibles take it further by calling every person by their Hebrew names which makes reading one very wearisome. Another odd trait is
suddenly using G-d instead of God.

Steve? Steve Fung hei ho Chow?

LOL!

sorry ... it's ok...I like Chinese food alot and had an uncle named Steve
 
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as old as I am and as much as I have always addressed my Heavenly Father from my youth as Jesus and God,
in these last few years I have been led by the Holy Spirit to refer to Him as Yeshua.-

I don't do it all of the time, but it is growing on me and somehow it is making me feel a new close/intimate
relationship with Him, I can't explain it, but it is a really good feeling that I don't want to lose...
 
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psalm6819

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That is true, however, no Messianic Jew that I know (several hundred) insist on others doing the same.
They also share none of the odd views expressed by disciplemike and the other Judaizers currently proselytising on this forum.
Funny, I haven't found that the case at all

what I see is an appreciation of the Old Testament, i.e., seeing and identifying foreshadows of Jesus

recognizing New Testament fulfillment of Old Testament promises

Are you aware that in Revelation Jesus is "Lion of the tribe of Judah?,

The titles in the seven letters to the churches are ALL Old Testament titles of Christ
 
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psalm6819

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Didn't mean to sound snippy, TonyJay, but I don't want my appreciation of OT to be cause for a misapplied label.