Is it Mandatory we only use the Hebrew name Yeshua?

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KohenMatt

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This idea of calling Jesus Yeshua is common among Messianic Jewish congregations. It is starting to creep into other places. I don't know why but suspect they might feel more Holy by using it. Messianic bibles take it further by calling every person by their Hebrew names which makes reading one very wearisome. Another odd trait is
suddenly using G-d instead of God.
I go to a Messianic-ish church and we often use "Yeshua." We will even sing some worship songs with Yeshua instead of Jesus. But we don't use the word exclusively. We also use "Yahweh" quit a bit, probably more often than "God." While I know some who get into the 1 true name that is more holy than everything else belief, they are the minority.

I have a couple of Bible translations where the names and some places are translated into Hebrew. You're right that it can become difficult to read.

I haven't come across any Messiacs who use G-d or "The Name" but I imagine they're out there and have most likely gone closer to Judaism and further away Jesus/Yeshua/Yeoshua/Joshua/Yeshu.......:)
 
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The Scriptures were breathed out by the Holy Spirit. Do you think God would allow sinful evil men to put into the Scriptures a false name for God?

NO!

The word for Jesus in the Greek text came from the Holy Spirit.
 

fredoheaven

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I would like to answer the title of the OP

NO...it is not a mandatory. Yeshua is the Hebrew pronunciation of Jesus but it could not be pronounce the way in English...
 

Laish

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A simple answer to the OP is no . As mentioned above His name was changed in translation from one language to another. . Their is nothing evil or sinful behind it .
Our lord and savior knows our heart concerning our worship of Him . Our God is all knowing,it is not like he will not receive our prayers or enjoy our worship if we use a name other than Yeshua .
Blessings
Bill
 

JaumeJ

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The tone of your post is heart-breaking. I pray God give you understanding of what has been posted by so many here in place of your dislike of anything Jewish. It is obvious you have been responding to posts without reading or understanding them, at least to my posts. In Jesus Christ's name, b blessed with a ehart of flesh and understanding in the Holy Spirit, amen.


Adam is more original than Israel, I think. We dont need to become Jews to be God´s people. There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ anymore.
 

JaumeJ

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Reading the posts, I do not see anyone saying anything cntrary to the use of the name Jesus, Iesous, Yesu, Yeshua or any other version of hHis name. He is teh one Who saves, and my own posts have stressed that all thes names mean The Salvation of God (Yahweh), and alos that it is a blessing to know what the name says according to the Angel Who spoke this to Mary and Joseph.......

If the Name of "Jesus" was offensive to HIM because we have not used Yeshua or some say Yeshiva then please explained the following:

1. what did God allow HIS word to be translated in to more then one language
2. Why does the Holy Spirit save those who call on Jesus name in English and not only when they hear the name in the Greek or Hebrew?
3. HOw come God only has the ability to hear is Name called in one language if HE is all knowing?

If you have the answer to all of these question and can show me biblically in context; That would be very impressive
 

JaumeJ

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Has anyone here said Jesus is a false name? Are you reading any of the posts at all?

Incidentally, Jesus is from Yesu, Latain. Yesu came from the Greek, Iesous. Someone else here made teh same declaration, that Jesus is Greek........not so.

In all of the names of our Savior people have always been saved.........this is not an issue here unless you make it so. I certainly have not. I have, however, shared teh blessings of the fruit of faith in the Word becaue of Jesus Christ. Oh, you probably are thinking I insist on using Yeshua HaMashiach exclusively.......sorry, you are wrong if this is the case, but it is not a sin to know the etymologies of various words int he Bible that have not been fully translated. God bless you that you understand and believe the Word in Jesus Christ, amen.

The Scriptures were breathed out by the Holy Spirit. Do you think God would allow sinful evil men to put into the Scriptures a false name for God?

NO!

The word for Jesus in the Greek text came from the Holy Spirit.
 

JaumeJ

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Jesus is from the Latin, Yesu, and Yesu is from the Greek, Iesous, both of which originat from the Hebrew, Yeshua.

We are not going into purely intellectual endeavor, at least not this hillbilly. My point is all of these names, when translated from what the Angel instructed Mary and Joseph to call the Babe, may be fully translated to "The Salvation of God (Yah.)."

If anything has crept into the teaching of the faith of Abraham, it would only be traditions of the nations handed down as commandment from God.

Jesus Christ fortold this situation long before Paul came into the picture. Paul affirmed what Jesus taches..

If being informed of the meanings of teachings and prophecies from our true spiritual pas, the Patriarchs and the Prohets, is wrong, then I am wrong.

God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and hear Him, amen. Let us all avoid apostasy at all costs.


I would like to answer the title of the OP

NO...it is not a mandatory. Yeshua is the Hebrew pronunciation of Jesus but it could not be pronounce the way in English...
 

JaumeJ

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Dear brother, Bill,

If you read my posts, my response to the thread title is NO. However, when I demonstrate that we are calling Jesus by a name that has not been translated fully, only tranliterated, I am met with what I can only deem as anti-semetic argumetns thaqt have no bearing on what I have posted from study and prayer.

Whether you use the names, Jesus, Yeshua, Iesous, Yesu, or any other, none of them are translations of what the Angel instructed Mary and Joseph to call the Babe.

His name translates to understandable words in all languages, it means "The Salvation of god (Yah.): I have posted this before also, that all who are saved know this by the Holy Spirt, thus it has no bearing on which name they use,but when this truth meets resistence, especially with resistence calling it Jewish, not onlhy do I suspect the person blindly making such declaration, but I suspect hatered of the original people of God, the ones the Good Shepherd has joined us to in faith and citizenship in God's Kingdom

According to the New Testamen, Ephesians, we have been made fellow heirs to the Kingdom..........If this be so, and the capital of our Kingdom is New Jerusalem, then calling our heritage of the faith of Abraham Jewish is a blasphemy.


A simple answer to the OP is no . As mentioned above His name was changed in translation from one language to another. . Their is nothing evil or sinful behind it .
Our lord and savior knows our heart concerning our worship of Him . Our God is all knowing,it is not like he will not receive our prayers or enjoy our worship if we use a name other than Yeshua .
Blessings
Bill
 

fredoheaven

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God bless all who are in Jesus Christ and hear Him, amen. Let us all avoid apostasy at all costs.
Yea, hear Him! Who?

Acts 4:18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

Philippians 2;10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Let's avoid confusion. Amen!
 

JaumeJ

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It seems you are still responding without understanding..... I cannot help you. I pray God will grant you the patience and longsuffering we all must emply, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.


Yea, hear Him! Who?

Acts 4:18 And they called them, and commanded them not to speak at all nor teach in the name of Jesus.

Philippians 2;10 That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth;

Let's avoid confusion. Amen!
 

fredoheaven

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What's the problem? No idea of your innnuendo! Yes hear Him! Who's that Him? It is the Lord Jesus Christ!
Any problem with that? But anyway, I AM SO SORRY if you are offended with the name of Jesus!

Acts 5:40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the name of Jesus, and let them go.

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
 

JaumeJ

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We are to be judged by the words of our own mouths. You have said ti! Scripture only.

It seems you are still responding without understanding..... I cannot help you. I pray God will grant you the patience and longsuffering we all must emply, in the name of Jesus Christ, amen.
 

fredoheaven

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John 14:28 He that rejecteth me, and receiveth not my words, hath one that judgeth him: the word that I have spoken, the same shall judge him in the last day.

What's the problem? No idea of your innnuendo! Yes hear Him! Who's that Him? It is the Lord Jesus Christ!
Any problem with that? But anyway, I AM SO SORRY if you are offended with the name of Jesus!

Acts 5:40 And to him they agreed: and when they had called the apostles, and beaten them, they commanded that they should not speak in the nameofJesus, and let them go.

SOLA SCRIPTURA!
 

trofimus

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The tone of your post is heart-breaking. I pray God give you understanding of what has been posted by so many here in place of your dislike of anything Jewish. It is obvious you have been responding to posts without reading or understanding them, at least to my posts. In Jesus Christ's name, b blessed with a ehart of flesh and understanding in the Holy Spirit, amen.
I am sorry I did not read your posts properly.

On the other hand, if you see my post:

"Adam is more original than Israel, I think. We dont need to become Jews to be God´s people. There is no Jew or Gentile in Christ anymore."

antisemitic and heart-breaking, there is nothing more to say.
 

trofimus

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Did I say anything about God being "more pleased?"

No.
Yes, you did.
Really? You don't see a value in calling someone by their native language name as opposed to our own?
This was your example of "tremendous value". And in this example the person you talk about is being pleased that you try to speak his name natively, so the value is purely emotional.

God is not human. And God is not Jewish. Nor American or Chinese. He knows when you call him in whatever language.
 
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JaumeJ

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Here are more blessings from understanding the Word, after all this is a forum to discuss the Bible.......

Adam was called such because he was created from the earth. Adam means earth , dirt or dust.
The root of this word is used for the color red, dam or dam dam meaning bright red.
This is also the root fo teh word meaning blood.

Israel means ruler with God or Prince with God.

Now understanding the meaning fully of these two simple words multiplies blessing in understanding the Word of God.

If I call God El, elohanu, Elah, Elohim, Yahweh, El Eyon, El Shaddai, and so much more, it is not a sin, nor is it having disdain for any who are rigid in calling Him only God. It is odd that people will accept a term taken originall from San skrit as the name of our Maker or the proper term for Him. The word, god, is traced back to Sansdrit, but it is not know exactly where it came from before that.

All this understood, it is with great difficulty I am able to accept all a person has to teach others when that teacher is not even aware of part of the above.

I am comfortable calling Elohanu, God, just as I am comfortable with calling Yeshua Jesus,, after allI use Jesus and God almost always, except in prayer, and then I use all of His names depending upon how I am expressing myself. This has no bearing on your faith or the faith of others, but, when I share what is true, it behooves all to measure any reponses to me or others who share the same knowledge, for this stems from a desire to not only be ignorant but to promugate ignorance, and this is not light, it is darness.
 
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TonyJay

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Funny, I haven't found that the case at all

what I see is an appreciation of the Old Testament, i.e., seeing and identifying foreshadows of Jesus

recognizing New Testament fulfillment of Old Testament promises

Are you aware that in Revelation Jesus is "Lion of the tribe of Judah?,

The titles in the seven letters to the churches are ALL Old Testament titles of Christ
I am not sure what your point is.
I think you may have misinterpreted what I was saying.
 
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bikerchaz

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Why only Yeshua??? Can we use the Name Jesus in other languages?

Where in the Scriptures does God say we are to only use the name Yeshau?
ER . . . No, Yes, It doesn't. Don't get hung up on trivia bro, just get hung up on Jesus.
 

JaumeJ

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Mat 1:21 And she shall bring forth a son; and thou shalt call his name JESUS; for it is he that shall save his people from their sins.

We all accept that the above is true, however how does the word Jesus, alone, explain what the Angel instructed Mary?

Simple, it doees not, nor will the name Yeshua alone explain anything here, but

When we translate the names componet words, we find that thoroughly translated, the Angles says to call the Babe "The Salvation of God (Yah)"

I find this clarification refreshing, underscoring the understanding of what and why the Angel gave this specific instruction, and a general blessing.

Now, unell you want to go through life calling Jesus, The Salvation of Yah, you may as well accept all the ways this has been transliterated,, that being many but foremost, Jesus, Yeshua, Yesu, Iesous, and much more.

God bless all who actually read this post and understand the simplicity of this entire thread..........No you do not need to call our Salvation Yeshua, but you it is practical to learn and understand what the Angel was saying. If this rubs anyone the wrong way, it is because they need a rubbing...........God bless all in Jesus Christ, amen.