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I do not know who Mr. Clark is however, if you are saved you are a candidate for every gift God offers each and every believer . The Holy Spirit distributes the gifts as HE sees is best for the whole body. They are called the "Gifts of the Holy Spirit " found in 1 cor chapter 12, 13, 14. to receive any gift of God it is by faith not of works Salvation ensures you are a sought out candidate men or women by God to be used. So desire them and seek them. As the bible says to do.
The baptism with the Holy Spirit (with the initial evidence of some tongues)
can happen to a believer who has already received the Spirit INSIDE.
It is strictly an anointing for spiritual power, which those w/o this baptism do not have.
7 NT passages indicate that the Holy Spirit comes UPON those receiving this baptism.
7 other NT passages indicate that the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE those who are born-again.
Both blessings can happen simultaneously (e.g. on the Day of Pentecost),
even though poor Peter had no idea what had just happened.
can happen to a believer who has already received the Spirit INSIDE.
It is strictly an anointing for spiritual power, which those w/o this baptism do not have.
7 NT passages indicate that the Holy Spirit comes UPON those receiving this baptism.
7 other NT passages indicate that the Holy Spirit comes INSIDE those who are born-again.
Both blessings can happen simultaneously (e.g. on the Day of Pentecost),
even though poor Peter had no idea what had just happened.
Signs are not proof of someone being saved.. The Bible warns that in the end times lying signs and wonders will be being performed.. And they will be so convincing that if it where possible they would be able to deceive even the very elect of God..
The safe path is to look beyond their signs and to listen to their preaching.. Does the message they preach conform to the Message of the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ?
The safe path is to look beyond their signs and to listen to their preaching.. Does the message they preach conform to the Message of the Gospel of the LORD Jesus Christ?
I see no possibility of God bringing any new interpretations as a revelation from God .This is in any language to include tongues (Multiple). His interpretation was given to other nations for the purpose of hearing Him by faith. It has ceased now that the perfect, as His complete written will, has come. We have the whole will of God the Bible sealed up till the end of time for over two thousand years.
If they are not a revelations from God .Then what manner of spirit could they be of other than the spirit of error, the father of lies with his lying signs and wonders
This is I believe in his attempt to influence men walk by sight as a way of falsify proving they have the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God.
There is nothing we could do outwardly as an indication we have the Spirit of Christ. We understand God by walking by his faith and not after our experiences.
Tongues are one of the manners God gave his interpretation in many languages so that others of another languages could get under the hearing of faith. Multiple people from many nations received an individual interpretation from God, calling them to faith, 3000 souls received that revelation. As peter spoke in his native tongue. It was not a work of men but a gift of God. And also as promised sign to the unbelieving Jew confirming they had no faith.
It is direct a revelation from God called prophecy. Tongues were no less God breathed than any other prophecy we do receive form God.
If we would try the spirits to see to see if they are of God as informed in 1 John they would immediately fail.
1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Again seeing first and foremost God is no longer bringing any new revelations as prophecy of the scriptures. It’s our safe guard from false prophets in regard to it shown in Matthew below (if it were possible). The Elect refuse to go above that which is written. Making it impossible for any new prophecy inspired of God..
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Refusing to try the spirits when looking at tongues, removes our key of knowing whether it is of God ,as the "things of God" or of men as the"those of men". This is seeing today many say he is still bringing a revelation from a tongue
You could take any person to include Mohamed and his false prophecy called the Koran or the Mormons who have another authority other than the Word of God as men that came after the sealing of the revelations of God, claiming thus says the Lord. Another false prophecy who declared His own thoughts and called them the word of God like Jim Jones or Charles Mansion . Not one person who claimed they received a new revelation from God came after the closing of scripture
If they are not a revelations from God .Then what manner of spirit could they be of other than the spirit of error, the father of lies with his lying signs and wonders
This is I believe in his attempt to influence men walk by sight as a way of falsify proving they have the Spirit of Christ, the Holy Spirit of God.
There is nothing we could do outwardly as an indication we have the Spirit of Christ. We understand God by walking by his faith and not after our experiences.
Tongues are one of the manners God gave his interpretation in many languages so that others of another languages could get under the hearing of faith. Multiple people from many nations received an individual interpretation from God, calling them to faith, 3000 souls received that revelation. As peter spoke in his native tongue. It was not a work of men but a gift of God. And also as promised sign to the unbelieving Jew confirming they had no faith.
It is direct a revelation from God called prophecy. Tongues were no less God breathed than any other prophecy we do receive form God.
If we would try the spirits to see to see if they are of God as informed in 1 John they would immediately fail.
1Jo 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
Again seeing first and foremost God is no longer bringing any new revelations as prophecy of the scriptures. It’s our safe guard from false prophets in regard to it shown in Matthew below (if it were possible). The Elect refuse to go above that which is written. Making it impossible for any new prophecy inspired of God..
Matthew 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
Refusing to try the spirits when looking at tongues, removes our key of knowing whether it is of God ,as the "things of God" or of men as the"those of men". This is seeing today many say he is still bringing a revelation from a tongue
You could take any person to include Mohamed and his false prophecy called the Koran or the Mormons who have another authority other than the Word of God as men that came after the sealing of the revelations of God, claiming thus says the Lord. Another false prophecy who declared His own thoughts and called them the word of God like Jim Jones or Charles Mansion . Not one person who claimed they received a new revelation from God came after the closing of scripture
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You strain your credibility with the "happens all the time" portion of your post. After thousands of posts by Pentecostals claiming angelic tongues and unknown tongues that may not be and probably are not human languages I find your statement to be out of the norm.
The incident as related is much closer to biblical alignment than most other representations of tongues in the modern church. In this instance we see tongues as an instrument of evangelism leading to a conversion not as the commonly presented means of self edification.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
The incident as related is much closer to biblical alignment than most other representations of tongues in the modern church. In this instance we see tongues as an instrument of evangelism leading to a conversion not as the commonly presented means of self edification.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
I respect your opinion and will concede with my wording and correct my statement ; so please allow me to be more clearer; I have seen this happen many times. Now i will not attack your credibility nor do I think you have to agree with me. I have seen most if not all the gifts of the Holy Spirit in operation in men and women. And if you must know I have seen healing happen in churches that are not even Pentecostals and Tongues spoken by many of other denominations. It is clear you do not agree with this gift ok 
but your comment here: "In this instance we see tongues as an instrument of evangelism leading to a conversion not as the commonly presented means of self edification."
this is not representative of my understanding of what this gift is only biblically. it is for a sign to the Unbeliever and for edification as 1 cor 12, 13, 14 says .
but your comment here: "In this instance we see tongues as an instrument of evangelism leading to a conversion not as the commonly presented means of self edification."
this is not representative of my understanding of what this gift is only biblically. it is for a sign to the Unbeliever and for edification as 1 cor 12, 13, 14 says .
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your input is respected on CC even if one doesn't agree with you
I think the original topic has been pretty much been talked about and everyone agrees tongues isn't a sign of someones salvation and that the guy who wrote the book I read is off his rocker a bit lol
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I just didn't want this to turn into a speaking in tongues is heresy or not for today thread I think the original topic has been pretty much been talked about and everyone agrees tongues isn't a sign of someones salvation and that the guy who wrote the book I read is off his rocker a bit lol
I think the original topic has been pretty much been talked about and everyone agrees tongues isn't a sign of someones salvation and that the guy who wrote the book I read is off his rocker a bit lol
I believe peeps get to wrapped up over tongues, there are 8 other gifts in 1 Cor 12....
