Is The Holy Spirit in you.

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Loveme, Yes I do. 14 years ago I HATED people like you, and abiding and all the pastors and ministers... Toady I LOVE them. I do not agree with them but I LOVE them as I love myself. Which is not much, as I hate a sinner, the sinner I am! And how can I love you if I cannot love myself?

What if I hate myself? Should I hate God more than anything and you as I hate myself.... Well I do not hate myself as much as I did 14 years ago. I guess the love of God is growing in me, and so I love myself more and you people more, but I have to say God is already my firstlove... He does not dissapoint. So it is EASY to love him, and it is easier to love you, because the Word teaches me HOW to love.


I know where I am heading, and I know what it is like to be holy and perfect... RIVERS OF LIVING WATERS RUNS from people that drank from Jesus. Soon I might reach that fountain..... I know I am getting close... Some days I can SMELL it...Some even ATE it. Other defenately drank from IT... It being Jesus...

Loveme, I do love you, so yes I guess I am getting close to find whatever was destined to be found for or by me.

Now I have to work. Bye.
 
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Isaiah 14:13,14 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Count the I's in Paragraph 2. Now compare them to the verses in Isaiah 14. Is there some similarity?
NONE at all. I will not sit on His throne, HE WILL SIT ON MINE.... I will not take His place, HE WILL TAKE MINE,... So actually it is the OPPOSITE of what you read in it. If I am dead and He lives in me, who is ALIVE? Me or God? So in the NEW ME there is no I. But the New Me is not here YET!

I play not these word counting games, you play as hard and as long as you like.
 

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Loveme, Yes I do. 14 years ago I HATED people like you, and abiding and all the pastors and ministers... Toady I LOVE them. I do not agree with them but I LOVE them as I love myself. Which is not much, as I hate a sinner, the sinner I am! And how can I love you if I cannot love myself?

What if I hate myself? Should I hate God more than anything and you as I hate myself.... Well I do not hate myself as much as I did 14 years ago. I guess the love of God is growing in me, and so I love myself more and you people more, but I have to say God is already my firstlove... He does not dissapoint. So it is EASY to love him, and it is easier to love you, because the Word teaches me HOW to love.


I know where I am heading, and I know what it is like to be holy and perfect... RIVERS OF LIVING WATERS RUNS from people that drank from Jesus. Soon I might reach that fountain..... I know I am getting close... Some days I can SMELL it...Some even ATE it. Other defenately drank from IT... It being Jesus...

Loveme, I do love you, so yes I guess I am getting close to find whatever was destined to be found for or by me.

Now I have to work. Bye.
For us all to consider and one word for us all "patience".

I hated myself more than anyone at one stage indeed and not that i can say i would of hated you or anyone else, but i would of been too shy to tell any of you i love you all very much.

James 2
My brethren, have not the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Lord of glory, with respect of persons. 2For if there come unto your assembly a man with a gold ring, in goodly apparel, and there come in also a poor man in vile raiment; 3And ye have respect to him that weareth the gay clothing, and say unto him, Sit thou here in a good place; and say to the poor, Stand thou there, or sit here under my footstool: 4Are ye not then partial in yourselves, and are become judges of evil thoughts? 5Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him? 6But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats? 7Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?8If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well: 9But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors. 10For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all. 11For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law. 12So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty. 13For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
14What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? 17Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
18Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. 19Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. 20But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? 21Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar?22Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? 23And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. 24Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. 25Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? 26For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.
 
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No they reached perfection the MOMENT GOD MADE them perfect by REBIRTH FROM GOD... Rebirth from God, Baptism of Holy Spirit and filling of Holy Spirit is all ONE EVENT right through the Bible.

Cornelius believed in God, and He was a Godfearing man. In the Old testament it useually meant the man OBEYED God and not Satan. God said, he would write His laws on the hearts of whom He pleases, I guess Cornelius did not have ANY SIN to repent from, so he only needed to be BAPTIZED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT, and that happened when God sent the Apostle Peter to do that...
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So you must believe if Cornelius had no sin to repent of he was alreafy perfect in the flesh, so i am not sure why he would need a Saviour if that were the case, and I assume you also believe he never once sinned after meetintg Peter, he was perfect in the flesh for the rest of his life on earth

I myself do not believe people become instantly perfect/instantly get fully sanctified/glorified
But Corbus, as you believe ministers do not (or most don't) know as much truth as you do I will leave it at that. We will have to agree to disagree
 
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NONE at all. I will not sit on His throne, HE WILL SIT ON MINE.... I will not take His place, HE WILL TAKE MINE,... So actually it is the OPPOSITE of what you read in it. If I am dead and He lives in me, who is ALIVE? Me or God? So in the NEW ME there is no I. But the New Me is not here YET!

I play not these word counting games, you play as hard and as long as you like.
I was just fixing to come back and apologize and say that maybe I came down a little hard on you. . .but now. . .Wow, I actually don't know what to say!

If the Holy Spirit dwells in you, you are a new creation - Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. KJV
NIV: Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here.

If the new man is not here yet, why are we told to be renewed in the spirit of our minds and to PUT on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness?
 
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About Cobus

Gender:male
Marital Status:married
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When saved:I am not a Chrsitian, because my idea of Chrsitian is the same than Jesus' idea of a Christian. 1 John 3:9 is Christian.

Why are you here trying to teach if you claim to not be a Christian? How can you possible teach about a Spirit you don't know?
 
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Jesus said we should daily take up our cross and follow Him. But it is always a daily choice otherwise Jesus would never have said it. If you don't die to self on a daily basis but live for self is that not sin? Has anyone ever managed to daily die to self.....and lets face it, dying is a 100% thing, you cannot die a little. Can anyone here, 100% say that every single day of their Christian walk they have died 100% to the flesh? I am a sinner but my sin is covered by Christ's righteousness.....COVERED by His blood. You know Im a huge chocolate lover and one of my favourite is Twix. Its shortbread COVERED in Chocolate but the shortbread still exists even though I can only see the chocolate.

Speaking of chocolate its time to eat :)
 

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And I know I knoe the Word of God better than ANY MAN I EVER met in person. I ALMOST know as much as Jesus, and soon I will Know as much as Jesus. Why? Because HE SAYS I WILL!
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Cobus.
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Where did Paul lied?
 
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So you must believe if Cornelius had no sin to repent of he was alreafy perfect in the flesh, so i am not sure why he would need a Saviour if that were the case, and I assume you also believe he never once sinned after meetintg Peter, he was perfect in the flesh for the rest of his life on earth

I myself do not believe people become instantly perfect/instantly get fully sanctified/glorified
But Corbus, as you believe ministers do not (or most don't) know as much truth as you do I will leave it at that. We will have to agree to disagree
Do not asume what I believe ASK and I will tell...
Cornelius had no SIN but that does not make a person perfect YET! It is just part of the process,,.. To be a SAINT (Hagios) in greek means... spiritually pure (Not Holy Spirit) A pure human spirit! (A spirit that already does not sin) That is SAINT... But Eph says for the PERFECTING of the saints... So even AFTER we stopped sinning God still has work to do on us... That work... is THe filling of the Holy Spirit.... PERFECTION/ Born of God!

That is what I believe Mark. And it is 100% scriptural provable...
 
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I was just fixing to come back and apologize and say that maybe I came down a little hard on you. . .but now. . .Wow, I actually don't know what to say!

If the Holy Spirit dwells in you, you are a new creation - Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new. KJV
NIV: Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, the new creation has come: The old has gone, the new is here.

If the new man is not here yet, why are we told to be renewed in the spirit of our minds and to PUT on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness?
Oh I did not come hard in any way... I play not counting games as you obviously do... There was a cult on counting every seventh word in the Bible was there not. That is why I play not those games... God would have told us to do so if He wanted too! but He said. we should not add or take away. What the WOW was for I do not know!

If I offended you in any way, maybe you do counting the I's and the You's I just type in love and what I believe. You will find me a person with a lot of patience, I have to repeat myself so often to various people, and at this stae there is many people to answer in Truth with Truth. So my friend, I really do not want to count the I's. Please that is a waste of time... I am a sinner and in need of salvation, but not the one that HAS no results.

I hate the gospel of.... You will always be a sinner as long as you are human... Totally against God's will and Word and His Truth and Gospel.... God claims he is a righteouss and fair God... And He preached... Be perfect even as your Father in heaven is perfect.... If that was impossible, then God is unfair, and unrighteouss. But he is NOT, because He knew that WHOSOEVER is born of God sinneth NOT... and he cannot sin because he is born of GOD!
 
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About Cobus

Gender:male
Marital Status:married
Spiritual Status:unsure
When saved:I am not a Chrsitian, because my idea of Chrsitian is the same than Jesus' idea of a Christian. 1 John 3:9 is Christian.

Why are you here trying to teach if you claim to not be a Christian? How can you possible teach about a Spirit you don't know?

Trying to teach Truth is better than succeeding preaching the UNTRUTH, lies... So I guess I try to reproof with God's Word as Timothy says is profitable to do....

Kefa, I am just honest and if you do not like what I say I can always LIE so that you can feel better.... But I will type it in red or grey or so so that you not get confused as you do with Paul and his lie!


Kefa if the Holy Spirit teaches me, can i help my classmates or not? What about others that are not even in class? That is why I am here, At least I am 100% truthful. And I believe no LIE! I judge with the Word I so diligently study EVERY DAY for at least 4 hours. Why? God gives me the freedom to do so. I think of God and His word EVERY SECOND of my life... Even when I sleep WE COMMUNICATE... This morning was the biggest miricle I EVER SAW,,,,, A revelation of scripture, and people...


I hope you get the same... IT IS BEAUTIFUL AND STRAIGHT FROM GOD.
 
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Jesus said we should daily take up our cross and follow Him. But it is always a daily choice otherwise Jesus would never have said it. If you don't die to self on a daily basis but live for self is that not sin? Has anyone ever managed to daily die to self.....and lets face it, dying is a 100% thing, you cannot die a little. Can anyone here, 100% say that every single day of their Christian walk they have died 100% to the flesh? I am a sinner but my sin is covered by Christ's righteousness.....COVERED by His blood. You know Im a huge chocolate lover and one of my favourite is Twix. Its shortbread COVERED in Chocolate but the shortbread still exists even though I can only see the chocolate.

Speaking of chocolate its time to eat :)
Twofeet what if Jesus STOPS leading? What does He do then... What does scripture say He does then? If you answer that correctly, you will know why Jesus STOPS leading.... What is a person did follow HIM ALL THE WAY? What does the Bbile teach happens NEXT?
 
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Cobus.
purleeze.
ARG Argentina, no SA South Africa Zonie...
What did God not say we will know the Truth? Zonie come on yuo know the Bible better than this....
God said... YOU SHALL KNOW THE TRUTH.. .what is the TRUTH Zonie? And the Truth shall make you FREE...

Free from what Zonie? Come girl, give us some WORD.... Jesus said if He makes me free I am free indeed... Free from what Zonie?
 
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This has to be the best example of why you can't just study the Bible like a textbook, without guidance from the Holy Spirit and fellowship Bible study.
 
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Crosspreacher, these are the verses Paul wrote about his lie... It is a bit of a study with God and some wonderful revelation of Word to understand Paul... but here is the verse...Romans 3:7..

Rom 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Great to meet you and share with you God's Word.
 
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This has to be the best example of why you can't just study the Bible like a textbook, without guidance from the Holy Spirit and fellowship Bible study.
Kefa you think I am not getting GUIDANCE by the Holy Spirit? And what FELLOWSHIP do I need? Fellowship with whom Kefa? Sinners like me? Or the Sunday HOLY PEOPLE IN THE CHURCHES, that will kill Jesus AGAIN if He comes. Or can I ask the HOLY SPIRIT to fellowship with me... Can i have fellowship with God's people, right now?

Let me tell you who is in the ROOM with me RIGHT NOW... NOT IN ME, WITH ME! There is Paul my BEST FRIEND and APOSTLE... Then there is Isaiah and Ezekiel and Ilijah my God's prophets and obedient servants. And then there is Jesus our MASTER. And if you think fellowship with Him needs more people, you make one BIG mistake....

How many people did Paul council to study the Truth... 14 Years.... How many Kefa? How many people do I need Kefa? One, two, twenty? Man do you have it confused... Did God not tell us not to hurry to where sinners point. Those ones that TALKS God but WALKS Satan? I test ALL spirits, and since I am VERY well schooled in the evil ones, I am hard to fool Kefa... I know what Jesus looks like, and I know what I look like they are NOT the same.

My friend if you study the Bible with God it is not a textbook, it is a LIFE STYLE!
 

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Crosspreacher, these are the verses Paul wrote about his lie... It is a bit of a study with God and some wonderful revelation of Word to understand Paul... but here is the verse...Romans 3:7..

Rom 3:7 For if the truth of God hath more abounded through my lie unto his glory; why yet am I also judged as a sinner?

Great to meet you and share with you God's Word.
I consider that Romans 3:7 was connected to 3:4?

Speaking broadly of the Old Covenant etc...
 
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This is soooo wrong. My sandals are clean on this one.
 
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All of you think on this.... Who killed Jesus? Was it the whores and the thiefs on the streets of the cities? Was it the heathens and gentiles of other countries? Nope.... It was the FALSE teachers in the churches (synagogues) and the Sabbath service attendants... It was the curches and the people on the church benches that killed Jesus!

Why? Why did they shout kill Him kill Him? Ok crucify Him... He was to perfect for them. He taught what they did not like! Why am I so targeted? I teach what you do not like.... What do you have against a man being perfect? What do you have against God's Salvation INTO HIM.


We read Romans 8 with Abiding.... Look if you are in the Spirit, and He is in you.... Look what is in you and where YOU ARE...


The Spirit in you... God in you.... You in the Spirit... You in God.... And God says very loudly and clearly,,,, THERE IS NO SIN IN HIM... So how can you commit sin in a place where there is NO SIN? You CANNOT!


What is so hard to accept here? Please I know the WORLD CANNOT accept the Spirit of Truth, but you cannot all be of the World! At least ONE person has to come and say..... Cobus you understand it correctly.... At least one PLEASE GOD SEND ONE!