Islam: Religion of peace or war?

[Blain]

I encourage you to rethink this statement. Jesus' positive impact upon the Earth is greater than all other humans, armies and institutions combined. Jesus taught us the way, and His faithful, aka, Christianity, haven't missed a beat.

Everything from human rights to women's suffrage is on account of Christianity. The process was slow and bloodstained, yet Christianity prevailed and the world is extraordinarily better for it.

I understand what your saying but that is not the point I am making. True Jesus turned the world upside down and yes Christianity brought joy and peace but also Christianity is a joke to the world now because of how hypocritcal we are how unloving we are how we teach and preach not to do things then go and do them. the body of Christ has lost it's way and the world is not better blood is still being spilled everyday all over the world, weapons of mass destruction have been created ppl are being tortured abused starved and killed for man kinds own selfish ways just as it has been for thousands of years. Christianity missed the beat a long time ago, we haven't shown the world who God is we have shown them who is isn't. This is why Jesus said love would grow scarce he saw this coming.

Which is why I say all the time seek love first above all else above being strong in faith above knowing the bible like the back of you hand above doing good works because only love is going to change the world.

 

[Viligant_Warrior]

I watch the 700 Club, and I heard Pat Robertson talk about all the wars started by Islams are started by a religion of war NOT peace. Is it really true that Islam is a religion of war not peace? And does it say anything about this in the bible?

Muhammad had his so-called “revelation” in 632 A.D. From the very moment he (an illiterate) had his slave-scribe set quill to parchment, this “religion” has been a suffocating force, the very asphyxiation of free will, choice, and peace.

The jihadii continue on the path of crusade against all the “infidels” who will not adhere to the “teachings” of Allah or honor the demon-god's murderous prophet, Muhammad.

Since the 9/11 attacks brought down the Twin Towers, punched a deadly hole in the Pentagon, and wasted the lives of 43 brave Americans in a Pennsylvania cornfield, there have been over 25,000 more homicidal terror attacks committed by Muslims. From Canada to Denmark to Australia, Islam’s influence through hate and intimidation, the demand for veneration of a child molester, assassin, and ignorant pre-Arab who did not know he was not under the influence of a god, but a demon, has encouraged torture, rape, pedophilia and slaughter via beheadings, incinerations, stabbings and bombings of thousands upon thousands of innocent human beings.

Should anyone dare give voice to these facts of the barbarism and uniform brutal savagery of the followers of the pedofile-prophet, they are threatened with death and subjected to a overwhelming barrage of verbal abuse meant to cower and intimidate us into silence.

Tell me, any of you who defend Islam, exactly when was the last time an Islamic message broke out in exhortation of Muhammad’s followers to be loving and serving of non-Muslims? When did a street rally of Muslims chant: “Love to America”, “Hugs to Israel”, “Blessings on anyone who slanders the prophet” or “Be kind to Infidels, wherever you find them”?

Has this ever happened? In a grossly inappropriate (to the reality) understatement, I simply say “No.”

President Obama, other Western leaders, the naïve left, and the mainstream media like to use the term “radical” when referring to devout Muslims who commit heinous acts for Islam. They don’t seem to realize there is a major problem with that description. The dictionary description of the word “radical” is the very antithesis of how it’s being used. The dictionary defines “radical” as: “relating to or affecting the fundamental nature of something; far-reaching or thorough.”

The fanatical Muhammadans – ISIS, Boko Haram, Hezbollah, Hamas, al-Qaeda, etc. – have gone back to the roots of their creed. They are extreme literalists, fundamentalists who follow in the footsteps and behaviors of their illiterate, pedophilic, perverted prophet. Muhammed was not a man of peace. Far from it. He was a man of war, having been in 100 violent campaigns to spread Islam and fill his Jihad coffers. We still see this occurring with those terror groups. They invade the lands of non-Muslims, kill, steal and destroy…

Just like Muhammad did …

 

[p_rehbein]

Islam is a religion of war in my opinion.

 

[crossnote]

Even if the Muslims succeeded in their goal of world domination, they would turn on each other...sect vs sect, Sunni vs Shia etc.

 

[valiant]

Then you misunderstand what I was saying. when he said he brings a sword he was talking about war not us killing ppl or even being killed by the sword persay but rather war between good and evil, he didn't come to bring unity but disunity to seperate the wheat from the chaff ect.

He did not say He had come to bring war. He said that He had come to bring a sword. In other words he was saying that the world was so rotten that when His message of love, righteousness and positive goodness was proclaimed by His followers the world would want to be rid of them.

True Christians do not use violence to bring these things about, it is only spurious Christians who do so. Although they do seek to help the weak and the helpless.

 

[Blain]

He did not say He had come to bring war. He said that He had come to bring a sword. In other words he was saying that the world was so rotten that when His message of love, righteousness and positive goodness was proclaimed by His followers the world would want to be rid of them.

True Christians do not use violence to bring these things about, it is only spurious Christians who do so. Although they do seek to help the weak and the helpless.

War came though didn't it? I am not talking about the kind of war you might think I am talking about a spiritual war one we are in facing and fighting in every time we wake up.

 

[Galahad]

Islam is not about peace it only creates war but then again I haven't seen Christianity create peace in the world either. Islam and Christianity stand for different things but they both seem to produce the same product. But then again did Jesus say he came to bring peace or a sword? The fact is we are at war we have been at war since the beginning of time and peace will only truly exist when the war is finally over, the world has never known peace there is always strive always hate always cruelty always brother against brother and eye for an eye.

Blaine, the peace Christians bring is the gospel. Every CHRISTIAN in the world has peace, as promised by God. It is a peace between the believer and God. The enmity that once was, separating man from God, is destroyed. All who are in Christ Jesus have peace with God. Christians have gone into foreign lands and taught the truth, the gospel. As a result, millions of people have peace.

You have not seen Christianity create peace in the world? What type of peace are you talking about?

Think about this. What sort of mindset or belief system was dominate in the founding and early history of this nation? I am convinced it was one that was heavily, if not altogether one formed and based on the Bible.

Our country would not have come into existence nor been the protector of freedom and liberty without men and women who believed and were moved by its teaching.

And in no way does Christianity produce the same as that of Islam. Not in the very least.

Blain, I mean no disrespect. Just trying to clarify and put some thoughts out.

Thank you

 

[Blain]

Blaine, the peace Christians bring is the gospel. Every CHRISTIAN in the world has peace, as promised by God. It is a peace between the believer and God. The enmity that once was, separating man from God, is destroyed. All who are in Christ Jesus have peace with God. Christians have gone into foreign lands and taught the truth, the gospel. As a result, millions of people have peace.

You have not seen Christianity create peace in the world? What type of peace are you talking about?

Think about this. What sort of mindset or belief system was dominate in the founding and early history of this nation? I am convinced it was one that was heavily, if not altogether one formed and based on the Bible.

Our country would not have come into existence nor been the protector of freedom and liberty without men and women who believed and were moved by its teaching.

And in no way does Christianity produce the same as that of Islam. Not in the very least.

Blain, I mean no disrespect. Just trying to clarify and put some thoughts out.

Thank you

Sorry I did not intend to say that Christianity is the same as Islam, I was merely saying that that niether have brought peace to the world. But I was talking about world peace you know a world at peace. If anything I think we make war a spiritual war good vs evil God and his warriors- his children vs satan and his. His children seek power and strength to destroy and conquer we seek power and strength to protect. Im not the best at words or explaining myself sometimes so I am sorry for the miscommunication

 

[Galahad]

Sorry I did not intend to say that Christianity is the same as Islam, I was merely saying that that niether have brought peace to the world. But I was talking about world peace you know a world at peace. If anything I think we make war a spiritual war good vs evil God and his warriors- his children vs satan and his. His children seek power and strength to destroy and conquer we seek power and strength to protect. Im not the best at words or explaining myself sometimes so I am sorry for the miscommunication

Okay. No biggie. But thank you, and I tried to be polite as possible.

We know that there will always be wars in the world. Even Jesus said as much, and He Himself entered a world of wars and left it a world of wars.

Okay, look at our country. Who are the leaders? How did they get into office? You would think that our country would be led by men and women who were God fearing people. The majority of them. Why? Because if everyone who claimed to be a Christian voted accordingly, things in our country would be, would be without a doubt, much different, and all for the better.
The same can also be said on a larger or world wide scale.

 

[ember]

I understand what your saying but that is not the point I am making. True Jesus turned the world upside down and yes Christianity brought joy and peace but also Christianity is a joke to the world now because of how hypocritcal we are how unloving we are how we teach and preach not to do things then go and do them. the body of Christ has lost it's way and the world is not better blood is still being spilled everyday all over the world, weapons of mass destruction have been created ppl are being tortured abused starved and killed for man kinds own selfish ways just as it has been for thousands of years. Christianity missed the beat a long time ago, we haven't shown the world who God is we have shown them who is isn't. This is why Jesus said love would grow scarce he saw this coming.

Which is why I say all the time seek love first above all else above being strong in faith above knowing the bible like the back of you hand above doing good works because only love is going to change the world.

well, not really so

the world is going to get worse and the spirit of the anti-Christ, already at work in the world today, is AGAINST God's love

I get tired of statements like 'the body of Christ has lost its way'...and others which are even worse

There has never been a time in the history of the world, since the Garden, when things were as God created them

 

[dcontroversal]

Are you serious? Radical Islam that is..........!

1. They cut peoples heads off
2. They rape and enslave women
3. They honor kill their children when the bring reproach
4. They stone women if accused of adultery
5. They burn people alive
6. They line people up and shoot them in the back of the head
and if you will not submit to what they believe they will make jihad against you..........

 

[Danacovert82]

So, in the end of all this, Islam is a religion of war?

 

[sltaylor]

Why listen to us, you tube Walid shoebat, a Palestinian terrorist converted to Christianity, he tells you exactly what Islam is...and here's a hint...it's not peace, it's actually ok for them to lie about peace knowing their Mahdi will return and make a false peace accord with Israel FOR 7 YEARS, only to break that covenant to destroy them
....now who does that sound like???

 

[jahsoul]

Why listen to us, you tube Walid shoebat, a Palestinian terrorist converted to Christianity, he tells you exactly what Islam is...and here's a hint...it's not peace, it's actually ok for them to lie about peace knowing their Mahdi will return and make a false peace accord with Israel FOR 7 YEARS, only to break that covenant to destroy them
....now who does that sound like???

Shoebat is a pretty sketchy guy but I digress.

I totally understood what Blain was saying. Ron Paul made an interesting comment some years back.

Some of the strongest supporters of the war declare that we are a Christian nation, yet use their religious beliefs to justify the war. They claim it is our Christian duty to remake the middle east and attack the Muslim infidels. Evidently, I have been reading a different Bible. I remember something about ‘Blessed are the Peacemakers.'

 

[Sophia]

Shoebat is a pretty sketchy guy but I digress.

I totally understood what Blain was saying. Ron Paul made an interesting comment some years back.

I wish he was running again. His son is alright, but not the same.
Man I hate the two parties our grandparents set up.

To the OP:
Violent from it's birth. The only Muslims who are peaceful are the ones who don't take Islam seriously.

 

[jahsoul]

Our country would not have come into existence nor been the protector of freedom and liberty without men and women who believed and were moved by its teaching.

One of the forefathers and greatest defenders of freedom and liberty was agnostic. Don't get me wrong, a lot of those who were central to the founding of the country had morality based on the Bible but those same men also didn't have the mentality that the country has now. Truth be told, a lot of people (even here) disagree with how the founding fathers viewed that this nation should be ran, but I digress.

 

[Sophia]

I agree with most of the founding fathers, but disagree with the "defenders of freedom" idea... at least in the way it is used... as an excuse to attack others.
The best offense is a good defense. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

The utilitarian idea of "preemptive strike" is unethical and against freedom.

 

[crossnote]

So, in the end of all this, Islam is a religion of war?

Yes, but it also encompasses a political aspect and not just religious.

 

[jahsoul]

I agree with most of the founding fathers, but disagree with the "defenders of freedom" idea... at least in the way it is used... as an excuse to attack others.
The best offense is a good defense. NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND!

Exactly. Defenders of freedom actually meant that when this nation was founded (but man, even then, destroyed that ideal for self interest).

 

[Atwood]

I watch the 700 Club, and I heard Pat Robertson talk about all the wars started by Islams are started by a religion of war NOT peace. Is it really true that Islam is a religion of war not peace? And does it say anything about this in the bible?

Islam arose centuries after the Bible. I don't know of any specific prophecy of it in the Bible.
I have been through the Quran over 3 times, and find that it is a religion of the sword, physical war to establish peace under Islam. Of course if one cuts off the heads of those who resist,
peace could theoretically result. And just think how peaceful it would be if women were required to stay in their houses except when let out on leashes by men, & then covered from head to toe.