Islam: Religion of peace or war?

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Magenta

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Tom Wallace has a program on Kari55.com called Fortress of Faith that deals exclusively with Islamic matters.

You might also want to read up on Dutch politician Geert Wilders, well known for his outspoken criticism of Islamic extremism.
 
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Jackson123

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According to Dr Alberto Rivera, Islam created by Catholic to take over Jerusalem.

So this religion is design for a war.
 

Jackson123

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some expert said,

Catholic believe Pope is representative of Jesus.

Some Pope even said, they not only represent Jesus but they are Jesus on earth.

Bible said JEsus will reign from Jerusalem/ mount of olive.

that is why Pope as Jesus on earth must reign from Jerusalem.

than she create Islam to do the job.

But, when Islam took over Jerusalem, they rebel and not turn it to Vatican.

Islam make mosque instead.

To have a clue that it is not a fiction, read these article.

  1. [h=3]The Vatican Wants Jerusalem - Biblesearchers.com[/h]www.biblesearchers.com/christian/vatican/jerusalem3.shtml



    The Vatican wants Jerusalem - Pressure On for the Internationalization of ..... TheVatican has called Israel's annexation of east Jerusalem illegal and does not ...


  2. [h=3]Report: Vatican Presses for Control of Mount Zion - Israel ...[/h]www.israeltoday.co.il/NewsItem/tabid/178/nid/24447/Default.aspx



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Agricola

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Hitler, Stalin, Attila the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden ..... ?
Yes God has allowed people like these to come into power, the leaders that the world and the nations deserved. Satan even asked permission to destroy everything Job had.

According to Dr Alberto Rivera, Islam created by Catholic to take over Jerusalem.

So this religion is design for a war.
SO Mohammed was lying when he said he was given the truth by an angel? Or was this simply a lie to convince people. Of course this angel would have been one of Satans officers or even Satan himself.
 
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Islam believes Ishmael is the chosen son over Isaac despite what the Bible says about the seed of promise. Ishmael and Isaac represent the 2 spiritual seeds, children of the flesh in Ishmael vs, children of the promise in Isaac (Spirit). The children of the flesh through out history have persecuted the children of the Spirit, even so it is now as written.

What does the Lord say of Ishmael and his seed....

Genesis 16:11-12[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."
 
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He's not a Dr. He was a conman and fraud who's lies were well documented. I notice you like to spread wild conspiracy junk all over this forum. You may want to consider seeing a doctor... a doctor of psychiatry.


According to Dr Alberto Rivera, Islam created by Catholic to take over Jerusalem.

So this religion is design for a war.
 

Jackson123

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He's not a Dr. He was a conman and fraud who's lies were well documented. I notice you like to spread wild conspiracy junk all over this forum. You may want to consider seeing a doctor... a doctor of psychiatry.
Are you catholic pretend to be christian?

Do you have Jesus in your hearth .Do you have love?

If you do why you call me crazy?

Can you prove Dr Alberto Rivera lie

I believe you source will be from Liar Vatican.
 
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Man made stuff, just like many so called religions and sudo Christianity .. remember Christians ( so called ) did the same in the middle ages ! ever heard of the inquisition ..!?

Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
 

Jackson123

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Yes God has allowed people like these to come into power, the leaders that the world and the nations deserved. Satan even asked permission to destroy everything Job had.



SO Mohammed was lying when he said he was given the truth by an angel? Or was this simply a lie to convince people. Of course this angel would have been one of Satans officers or even Satan himself.
1. some people said Quran is made in Agustine.

2. but I believe it is combination between Agustine, and Mohammad.

3. Is Mohammad lie when he said, he get revelation from Gabriel?

I don't know. It may lie, or he get revelation from Satan and he think it is Gabriel.
 

Magenta

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3. Is Mohammad lie when he said, he get revelation from Gabriel?

I don't know. It may lie, or he get revelation from Satan and he think it is Gabriel.
Mohammed did not know the source; it was his wife and another relative that convinced him to accept that the revelations came from Gabriel, and not a jin. However, we do know that passages known as the Satanic Verses were removed from the Koran. Mohammed was deceived.
 

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Hitler, Stalin, Attila the Hun, Vlad the Impaler, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Pinochet, Saddam Hussein, Osama bin Laden ..... ?

When God gave men free will He was well aware that it would lead to the rise of tyrants. Oddly enough it are these tyrants that God uses to dope-slap us back to reality when we start straying from His Word. Too bad people these days have come to love the dope slap more than the dope slapper lol.
 
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According to Dr Alberto Rivera, Islam created by Catholic to take over Jerusalem.

So this religion is design for a war.

The Koran was written by early Arab Protestant Christians.
 
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Islam believes Ishmael is the chosen son over Isaac despite what the Bible says about the seed of promise. Ishmael and Isaac represent the 2 spiritual seeds, children of the flesh in Ishmael vs, children of the promise in Isaac (Spirit). The children of the flesh through out history have persecuted the children of the Spirit, even so it is now as written.

What does the Lord say of Ishmael and his seed....

Genesis 16:11-12[SUP]11 [/SUP]And the angel of the Lord said unto her, Behold, thou art with child and shalt bear a son, and shalt call his name Ishmael; because the Lord hath heard thy affliction.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]And he will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man's hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren."

Islam cannot even properly read their Koran.

The Koran states that the Promise is through Isaac....same as the Holy Bible.
 
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1. some people said Quran is made in Agustine.

2. but I believe it is combination between Agustine, and Mohammad.

3. Is Mohammad lie when he said, he get revelation from Gabriel?

I don't know. It may lie, or he get revelation from Satan and he think it is Gabriel.

Don't fall for Islamic myth.

No where in the entirety of the Koran does it ever state that someone named 'Muhammad' had anything at all to do with the contents of the Koran.

No where in the entirety of the Koran does it ever state that an angel named 'Gabriel' had communication with some one named 'Muhammad'.
 

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The Koran was written by early Arab Protestant Christians.
Islam cannot even properly read their Koran.

The Koran states that the Promise is through Isaac....same as the Holy Bible.
Don't fall for Islamic myth.

No where in the entirety of the Koran does it ever state that someone named 'Muhammad' had anything at all to do with the contents of the Koran.

No where in the entirety of the Koran does it ever state that an angel named 'Gabriel' had communication with some one named 'Muhammad'.
Your points whether true or not are moot because Islam teaches otherwise.
 
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Your points whether true or not are moot because Islam teaches otherwise.

That's about as idiotic a statement as saying that the OT does not teach a Triune God because Judaism teaches otherwise...