It's the blood of the Lamb

[eternally-gratefull]

And the LORD said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil?

so, we know that Job was the second person who fulfilled the law, and made it to heaven of his own righteousness. And did not need Christ to die for him.

Is there any more people like this?

of course romans 3: 23 should let us know how well Job did according to Gods glorious standard. or am I misunderstanding paul?

 

[Brainfreeze]

so, we know that Job was the second person who fulfilled the law, and made it to heaven of his own righteousness. And did not need Christ to die for him.

Is there any more people like this?

of course romans 3: 23 should let us know how well Job did according to Gods glorious standard. or am I misunderstanding paul?

Job didn't do it on his own... It says in the scripture that he feared God. He had faith, pure heart, which made him obedient to God. He didn't do it on his own, God was with him. Jesus is another and better perfect example, for He not only was perfect but was slain on a cross at 33... for us.

 

[Joidevivre]

I'm done - but I really liked the reason for this thread which was for us to meditate and comment on the blood of Christ.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Job didn't do it on his own... It says in the scripture that he feared God. He had faith, pure heart, which made him obedient to God. He didn't do it on his own, God was with him. Jesus is another and better perfect example, for He not only was perfect but was slain on a cross at 33... for us.

so your saying faith saves, and faith produces good work.

Your right, Job trusted God more than self. thus is why he was seen as righteous, even though he was still a sinner saved by the grace of God.

So job did nothing but have faith in God, and God saved him just like he did abraham. Then his works proceeded from that faith.

 

[Brainfreeze]

so your saying faith saves, and faith produces good work.

Your right, Job trusted God more than self. thus is why he was seen as righteous, even though he was still a sinner saved by the grace of God.

So job did nothing but have faith in God, and God saved him just like he did abraham. Then his works proceeded from that faith.

The scripture says he was perfect.. Not a sinner. We are called to be saints not sinners.. If your luke warm He will spew you out of His mouth. We must go through the trial of fire to see if we withstand as Job did. Jesus on the other hand, didn't own a house, have a wife, or sheep in the field. His whole life purpose was for the people not Himself, in every way, His powerful blood was shed for us, period. I don't see scripture where Noah sinned either, got one ?

 

[elf3]

I'm done - but I really liked the reason for this thread which was for us to meditate and comment on the blood of Christ.

No kidding. Began as a great forum until all the sudden the blood of Christ was diluted.

 

[SoulWeaver]

@Brainfreeze:
Noah got so drunk that he passed out, I'd say he was mistaken there. God doesnt hate drink in all cases but He hates drunkenness.
Job doubted.

 

[Brainfreeze]

@Brainfreeze:
Noah got so drunk that he passed out, I'd say he was mistaken there. God doesnt hate drink in all cases but He hates drunkenness.
Job doubted.

Thank you sis, drunkeness isn't a sin, if he didn't mean to do it. Was Noah a drunkard ?
As for Job doubting, He also was strengthen in his faith at the end of the fire trial. Again perfect.

 

[Brainfreeze]

@Brainfreeze:
Noah got so drunk that he passed out, I'd say he was mistaken there. God doesnt hate drink in all cases but He hates drunkenness.
Job doubted.

Are you saying it's ok, ... to be luke warm, and continue on in a sinful manner ? Because your covered in " The Blood ".

 

[Brainfreeze]

We should know the difference between, I'm going to have a few drinks and I'm going to get plastered tonight, woohoo!!

 

[SoulWeaver]

Are you saying it's ok, ... to be luke warm, and continue on in a sinful manner ? Because your covered in " The Blood ".

No, not saying anything like that. I didnt read all the posts in the thread so I apologize if I caused confusion or if I have ran into a debate unaware.
I was just answering what you asked, where did Noah sin in the Scriptures.
What I was saying is that we all need a savior - even though they (Noah, Job...) were probably better men than I will ever be, they too needed the forgiveness of sins. Even if it wasnt recorded in the Bible, we know that every man sinned at some point and fell short of the glory of God.

 

[Brainfreeze]

No, not saying anything like that. I didnt read all the posts in the thread so I apologize if I caused confusion or if I have ran into a debate unaware.
I was just answering what you asked, where did Noah sin in the Scriptures.
What I was saying is that we all need a savior - even though they (Noah, Job...) were probably better men than I will ever be, they too needed the forgiveness of sins. Even if it wasnt recorded in the Bible, we know that every man sinned at some point and fell short of the glory of God.

Job or Noah is not God.. this we know for fact ... But does it not say that God was pleased with Job, that he was perfect and righteous ? I'm not here to debate either, just clarification .. Why did God choose Job to be tested so harshly ? Was it not because of how good he was at pleasing God ? Does it not please God to love and be righteous ? I'm tested all the time and welcome them, through perseverance praising His name, that I could only do this through Him. Are we called to be righteous or is it ok, to sin is the question ? I live to please Him, not me, how about you all ?

 

[elf3]

Some of the people here have taken the perfect, atoning, redemptive, justifying blood of Christ and added so much to it that it's now "blood pudding. The perfect scarlet blood of Christ has been so diluted it's now a soft pink.

Since when can we in any way justify ourselves before God by what we have "done for Him"? Shoot if it wasn't for the grace of God and the blood of Christ none of us would be thinking of God right now.

 

[Brainfreeze]

Some of the people here have taken the perfect, atoning, redemptive, justifying blood of Christ and added so much to it that it's now "blood pudding. The perfect scarlet blood of Christ has been so diluted it's now a soft pink.

Since when can we in any way justify ourselves before God by what we have "done for Him"? Shoot if it wasn't for the grace of God and the blood of Christ none of us would be thinking of God right now.

I thought you were finished like Ms. Joide ? You keep talking about diluted blood, what is this your speaking of ? Who's adding anything ? If we follow the Spirit we will learn to die to flesh, it's written all over the scriptures sir.

 

[SoulWeaver]

Are we called to be righteous or is it ok, to sin is the question ? I live to please Him, not me, how about you all ?

I honestly have no idea how did you get to the conclusion that I endorse willful sin in my post... I just said that every man fell short of the glory of God at some point. I guess you got me wrong from the start so I best dont write further on it. GBY

 

[Brainfreeze]

I honestly have no idea how did you get to the conclusion that I endorse willful sin in my post... I just said that every man fell short of the glory of God at some point. I guess you got me wrong from the start so I best dont write further on it. GBY

I haven't come to any conclusions sis, why there's question marks there for clarification ... You just popping in to say Noah got drunk and Job doubted, isn't clarifying anything on what's being discussed. Now it's clear... Thank you for clearing that up.

Here elf, just one of plenty scriptures clarifying about " the flesh ".



2 Corinthians Chapter 10
3 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh:


4 (For the weapons of our warfare [are] not carnal, but mighty through God to the pulling down of strong holds


5 Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The scripture says he was perfect.. Not a sinner. We are called to be saints not sinners.. If your luke warm He will spew you out of His mouth. We must go through the trial of fire to see if we withstand as Job did. Jesus on the other hand, didn't own a house, have a wife, or sheep in the field. His whole life purpose was for the people not Himself, in every way, His powerful blood was shed for us, period. I don't see scripture where Noah sinned either, got one ?

lol. then the scripture lied when it said for ALL have sinned and fall short of the glory of God.

And like I said, if they were perfect. then they did not need Christ. They saved themselves. No where in scripture will you find this

He was complete. The question is, was he complete in his faith in God. or complete in his perfect adherance to the law (which no one has done but Christ)

 

[eternally-gratefull]

@Brainfreeze:
Noah got so drunk that he passed out, I'd say he was mistaken there. God doesnt hate drink in all cases but He hates drunkenness.
Job doubted.

Aww sis, You had to go prove they were sinners.. lol

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Thank you sis, drunkeness isn't a sin, if he didn't mean to do it. Was Noah a drunkard ?
As for Job doubting, He also was strengthen in his faith at the end of the fire trial. Again perfect.

drunk is a sin, the excuse of I did not mean to do it will not help you from suffering the consequence of that sin.
Doubting is a huge sin.

Not sure what law you follow. but the law of God would disagree with you

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Job or Noah is not God.. this we know for fact ... But does it not say that God was pleased with Job, that he was perfect and righteous ? I'm not here to debate either, just clarification .. Why did God choose Job to be tested so harshly ? Was it not because of how good he was at pleasing God ? Does it not please God to love and be righteous ? I'm tested all the time and welcome them, through perseverance praising His name, that I could only do this through Him. Are we called to be righteous or is it ok, to sin is the question ? I live to please Him, not me, how about you all ?

God considers all his children perfect and righteous, as the word says, He will say to all of them, well done my good and faithful servant.

God used Job to prove to satan that people can follow God and in his power overcome.