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stonesoffire

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I agree that everything we believe should be based on scripture. But 99.9% of the people who post things have scripture behind what they believe (whether true or not). And, when people put up scripture, it is more often used for target practice than actual consideration of the poster's point. Too, it's an escalating thing - I put up one scripture supporting my belief, you (generic you not specifically the op) respond with two that say differently. Then I see your two and raise you a third, upon which you go all-in with a full litany. Are we actually accomplishing anything with this or are we just rattling sabers?
Then what? How do you counter?
 
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How does one avoid this developing in the heart?
James 3.17-18


[SUP]17 [/SUP]But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.


:p
 

Magenta

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I agree that everything we believe should be based on scripture. But 99.9% of the people who post things have scripture behind what they believe (whether true or not). And, when people put up scripture, it is more often used for target practice than actual consideration of the poster's point. Too, it's an escalating thing - I put up one scripture supporting my belief, you (generic you not specifically the op) respond with two that say differently. Then I see your two and raise you a third, upon which you go all-in with a full litany. Are we actually accomplishing anything with this or are we just rattling sabers?
Or you post one or two Scriptures to back what you say and
how you see things and then you are accused of cherry picking heh.
 

Gabriel2020

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#45
The truth of God's word is confirmed by evidence one way or another, which is the power of his word.
 
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these are the conflicts on this sight. debates are simply augurements. Knowledge of the bible, but no understanding of the scriptures seem to be the biggest problem. everybody believes that they are right. The only ones that can recognize the truth are those that are lead and taught by the holy spirit. one thing is for sure, somebody is wrong, and somebody is right.
you kinda really contradicted yourself here big guy....
 

Zen

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I'm seeing now a different side of you too Zen. So I need to apologize for my thoughts. Right now I can't remember what I disagreed with you about but if I said anything to hurt you...I am so sorry.
It's because I was talking about biblical authority of men over women and children, chastening of children and women. A lot of women didn't agree that a man should be able to. Not many people were interested in my view of the tender things in a relationship, they made me out to be a woman-abusing monster.

We can't really undo the damages of feminism and all the satanic influences of the world, we just have to endure it for a short season.

Ecclesiastes 1:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

God's commandments cover all our needs, the commandment to forgive is simple, yet it undoes every weapon of the adversary (towards us).
 
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Or you post one or two Scriptures to back what you say and
how you see things and then you are accused of cherry picking heh.
This is why I post all the passage, if I am making a point....prooftexting is serious compromise of the word of truth
 

Magenta

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This is why I post all the passage, if I am making a point....prooftexting is serious compromise of the word of truth
Yes, we can post all the passages and others relating to the topic at hand and still be accused of cherry picking because we failed too include some pet passage of the other person. Also been accused of not believing what Scripture says just because my understanding is different on some points where, as far as I am concerned, my beliefs align with what is explicitly stated in a multitude of places, but the other will serve up one verse and a parable and say what about THIS as if it negates the fifty verses I can give. Ouch. I forgive that if the other person admits it is unfair of them to accuse me of that, most see my heart and passion for God and the Truth of His revealed written Word and His Son and I am blessed to have what simple understanding I do :) We are after all each to be convinced in our own minds, it is not my job to try to change what others believe, nor others mine. If my beliefs change to become more aligned with Truth then that is good and glory to God! :) However, it is not something that can be forced...
 

BillG

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#51
Make me a channel of your peace
Where there is hatred let me bring your love
Where there is injury, your pardon Lord
And where there's doubt, true faith in you

Make me a channel of your peace
Where there's despair in life let me bring hope
Where there is darkness, only light
And where there's sadness ever joy

Oh, master grant that I may never seek
So much to be consoled as to console
To be understood as to understand
To be loved as to love with all my soul

Make me a channel of your peace
It isn't pardoning that we are pardoned
In giving to all men let we receive
And in dying that we're born to turn around

Oh, master grant that I may never seek
So much to be consoled as to console
To be understood as to understand
To be loved as to love with all my soul

Make me a channel of your peace
Where there's despair in life let me bring hope
Where there is darkness, only light
And where there's sadness ever joy
 
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#52
Well, I have zero tolerance for bullying. And I must say that this site is full of bullies. People enforce their opinion and understanding about scriptures on others. Take mathematics(e.g Algebra), if you don't follow the BODMAS method, you'll never get the right answer. I always believe that if we are guided by the Holy Spirit, our understanding of the Scriptures will be one.
 

J7

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The Holy Spirit shows different things to different people.

If the thigh thinks he is the whole body, he (or she) is deluded.

The idea is to cooperate so the whole body works in tandem.
 
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#55
Well, I have zero tolerance for bullying. And I must say that this site is full of bullies. People enforce their opinion and understanding about scriptures on others. Take mathematics(e.g Algebra), if you don't follow the BODMAS method, you'll never get the right answer. I always believe that if we are guided by the Holy Spirit, our understanding of the Scriptures will be one.
I wonder how many saw Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul or maybe one of the prophets as a bully.....defending the truth does not a bully make.....I do believe the bolded....!
 

BillG

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I wonder how many saw Jesus, John the Baptist, Paul or maybe one of the prophets as a bully.....defending the truth does not a bully make.....I do believe the bolded....!
Ah yes I agree but what about the Pharisees and the Saducees?
 
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Persuaded

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The Holy Spirit shows different things to different people.

If the thigh thinks he is the whole body, he (or she) is deluded.

The idea is to cooperate so the whole body works in tandem.
If every one followed the leadership of the Holy Spirit, we would all agree.
 
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TRUE feminism, is not the current feminism you see in the world. The current (false) feminism is a masculine feminism regarding equal physical power to man, and suppression of man and in that sense it is somewhat as satanic, as the reign corrupt Man has over the Earth, which is exactly what they fight, but with exactly the same weapon - masculinity. Kind of like woman taking the reign of power which belongs to true good men, not corrupt men which is prevalent.

To put it simply, and some may not agree with me, but Jesus was a true feminist. Do any of the SJW/feminists seem anything close to Jesus? No. So in a sense, they are more of an anti-Christ.

Every great man often has something in common, a great woman behind them. Kind, caring, loving, strong, Godly. So man is often not much without a woman, while woman has a lot more freedom than man in ways that people don't like to talk about. They may experience more oppression in regards to portrayal, but men experience more oppression in regards to freedom of self-portrayal or expression. This is why both sexes help each other, it is designed that way.

But for some women in the west, it's just never enough. Why don't they fight the oppression of women in other countries instead?

To try and upset the balance of reality is anti-Christ. And if I look at the world, it seems that woman is becoming more and more like man, and gender/identities are being amalgamated, rather than good men becoming the identity of man rather than 'the corrupt', and good woman becoming the identity of woman rather than 'the corrupters'. Look at these forums for example, how many of the varying types do you see?

Woman have such spiritual strength in them, they are ordained with it I believe, from God. But it is so powerful, it can stop wars, OR, it can be highly destructive under the guise of extreme manipulation with 'a face of innocence'. I could give you many examples on this site.

For example, seeing a racist woman on this site, it just doesn't fit really. Racism is the language of corrupt men, woman are the peacemakers. And a quarrelsome woman is best left in the desert, eg. modern feminism.

It's because I was talking about biblical authority of men over women and children, chastening of children and women. A lot of women didn't agree that a man should be able to. Not many people were interested in my view of the tender things in a relationship, they made me out to be a woman-abusing monster.

We can't really undo the damages of feminism and all the satanic influences of the world, we just have to endure it for a short season.

Ecclesiastes 1:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]I have seen all the works that are done under the sun; and, behold, all is vanity and vexation of spirit.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]That which is crooked cannot be made straight: and that which is wanting cannot be numbered.

God's commandments cover all our needs, the commandment to forgive is simple, yet it undoes every weapon of the adversary (towards us).
 

Zen

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Well, I have zero tolerance for bullying. And I must say that this site is full of bullies. People enforce their opinion and understanding about scriptures on others. Take mathematics(e.g Algebra), if you don't follow the BODMAS method, you'll never get the right answer. I always believe that if we are guided by the Holy Spirit, our understanding of the Scriptures will be one.


Too many people here are trusting the world instead of God. Just because something exists, it doesn't make it approved by God.
 
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More often than not, everybody is wrong!
Yeah.....no offence, but I do not believe this........generally speaking there are two main groups and most theologies are built around those who work for their salvation and those who trust grace dia faith......to use the word "everybody" just does not cut the mustard in my view.......and is very bias and ambiguous......