Jehovah's Witnesses vs Old Time Religion

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Webster's defines apostasy as renunciation of a religious faith and/or
abandonment of a previous loyalty; viz: defection, which is defined as
conscious abandonment of allegiance or duty (as to a person, cause, or
doctrine).

Apostasy is not always a bad thing. For example:

†. 1Thes 1:4-10 . . For we know, brothers loved by God, his choosing of you,
because the good news we preach did not turn up among you with speech
alone but also with power and with holy spirit and strong conviction, just as
you know what sort of men we became to you for your sakes; and you
became imitators of us and of the Lord, seeing that you accepted the word
under much tribulation with joy of holy spirit, so that you came to be an
example to all the believers in Macedonia and in Achaia.

. . .The fact is, not only has the word of Jehovah sounded forth from you in
Macedonia and Achaia, but in every place your faith toward God has spread
abroad, so that we do not need to say anything. For they themselves keep
reporting about the way we first entered in among you and how you turned
to God from your idols to slave for a living and true God, and to wait for his
Son from the heavens, whom he raised up from the dead, namely, Jesus,
who delivers us from the wrath which is coming.

Another example of the ideal kind of apostasy is my own.

I was baptized an infant into the Roman Catholic Church in 1944 and
subsequently attended its catechism till I completed First Holy Communion
and Confirmation. In 1968, for reasons of faith and practice, I renounced
Rome. I simply could not, in all good conscience, remain affiliated with a
denomination that I no longer believed in; so I defected.

Jehovah's Witnesses with honest reservations in their hearts about the
trustworthiness of the Watch Tower Society have got to leave it-- they have
to. Staying would not only be a sin against their conscience, but also against
their own better judgment.

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The Watch Tower Society's NWT translates a portion of John 4:24 like this:

"God is a Spirit"

The Watch Tower Society spelled "Spirit" upper case; but not all translators
do. For example the NIV, the NAS, and the NASB spell "spirit" lower case.

Anyway, the NWT has Christ moving on to say:

"and those worshiping him must worship with spirit"

The Kingdom Interlinear doesn't translate the Greek word έv as the English
word "with" rather, as the word "in".

Seeing as how the Interlinear trumps the NWT; then we should plug "in" into
Christ's statement, so that it looks like this:

"and those worshiping him must worship in spirit"

It looks to me that Christ was saying that his Father wants people to worship
Him spirit to spirit; which is a bit problematic for Jehovah's Witnesses
because according to Watch Tower Society theology, humans are entirely
physical. So then; if humans lack a spirit component to their existence, then
in their natural-born, totally organic condition, they are incapable of
worshipping God as He would like.

This is a crucial issue because according to Christ, spirit-to-spirit worship of
God isn't optional; no, it's a must.

The answer to this dilemma is of course the living water about which Christ
spoke with the Samaritan woman in the fourth chapter of John. That water
equips people with a spirit component to their existence in which they can
worship God as He would like.

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