Jesus is God!
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Odd question, or, rather, odd comparison.
Disobeying the Commandments of God or Christ is a sin if that is what you are asking. Will disobedience of Him not separate us from Him? This part of your question (in my opinion) is directed more to believers, as unbelievers live in disobedience of Him willingly whereas believers should be striving to live Christ-like, or, in obedience.
Denying the Deity of Christ is directed more at those who do not profess to be a Christian. One can hardly profess to be a believer in and disciple of Christ if one denies Christ and His Deity can they? Why would they? Scripture says to worship the Creator, not the created. To deny the Deity of Christ is to lower Him to being just another creation of God, and not the Second Person of the Godhead/Holy Trinity. If one believes Jesus was created, and just a flesh and blood man like every other man God created, why on earth would they profess to be His disciple, or put any faith in Him? After all, they have asserted He is just a flesh and blood man...........as are we all, and hardly worthy of worship or praise.
So, generally speaking, the answer to your question would be "No." Even believers, who acknowledge the Deity of Christ, can be disobedient to His Commandments.........knowingly or not.
He is surely the "Living Word," as the Holy Bible is the "Written Word." And believers/unbelievers can both disobey, fail to follow His Commandments/live in disagreement with Scripture. However, only unbelievers deny the Deity of Christ. Believers, those who are believers in and disciples of Christ proclaim His Deity.
Disobeying the Commandments of God or Christ is a sin if that is what you are asking. Will disobedience of Him not separate us from Him? This part of your question (in my opinion) is directed more to believers, as unbelievers live in disobedience of Him willingly whereas believers should be striving to live Christ-like, or, in obedience.
Denying the Deity of Christ is directed more at those who do not profess to be a Christian. One can hardly profess to be a believer in and disciple of Christ if one denies Christ and His Deity can they? Why would they? Scripture says to worship the Creator, not the created. To deny the Deity of Christ is to lower Him to being just another creation of God, and not the Second Person of the Godhead/Holy Trinity. If one believes Jesus was created, and just a flesh and blood man like every other man God created, why on earth would they profess to be His disciple, or put any faith in Him? After all, they have asserted He is just a flesh and blood man...........as are we all, and hardly worthy of worship or praise.
So, generally speaking, the answer to your question would be "No." Even believers, who acknowledge the Deity of Christ, can be disobedient to His Commandments.........knowingly or not.
He is surely the "Living Word," as the Holy Bible is the "Written Word." And believers/unbelievers can both disobey, fail to follow His Commandments/live in disagreement with Scripture. However, only unbelievers deny the Deity of Christ. Believers, those who are believers in and disciples of Christ proclaim His Deity.
yes. everyone that believes, having not seen, a greater work is done in them than the one who believes because of what he has seen.
and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.
Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves. Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
(John 14:11-12)
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God;
only he has seen the Father.
(John 6:46)
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
(John 14:9)
The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent
(John 6:29)
Then Jesus told him,
"Because you have seen me, you have believed;
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
(John 20:29)
(John 14:11-12)
No one has seen the Father except the one who is from God;
only he has seen the Father.
(John 6:46)
Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father.
How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
(John 14:9)
The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent
(John 6:29)
Then Jesus told him,
"Because you have seen me, you have believed;
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed."
(John 20:29)
and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent
blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.
what are you lookin for Jack, someone to say
did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
Jesus said John the baptizer was greater than any man born of woman - but did John raise the dead or call down fire from heaven?
which is greater - to heal the lame, or to say
i still say you are not phrasing this well. no one does greater works than God.
Christ said 'greater works than these' - not 'greater works than God'
no one is great as God is great.
now, you create your own universe, with it's own life, and you redeem that life from sin, and then get back to me, and perhaps i'll apologize. but i think you got a subtle error in there, buddy.
did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?
Jesus said John the baptizer was greater than any man born of woman - but did John raise the dead or call down fire from heaven?
which is greater - to heal the lame, or to say
"behold the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" ??
i still say you are not phrasing this well. no one does greater works than God.
Christ said 'greater works than these' - not 'greater works than God'
no one is great as God is great.
now, you create your own universe, with it's own life, and you redeem that life from sin, and then get back to me, and perhaps i'll apologize. but i think you got a subtle error in there, buddy.