Jesus married a black women???!!?

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posthuman

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y'all might want to actually listen to the 'sermon' in OP. it's only 17 minutes.

gist:

• Song of Solomon is an allegory of Christ and His church.
• Solomon ~ Christ
• His bride ~ the church
• SoS 1:6 -- the bride is dark skinned, a 'black woman'
• therefore ((by metaphor)) Christ marries a black woman





a technical objection is that at this moment in time we're 'betrothed' waiting for the Groom to return to take His bride. we're in the middle of the traditional Hebrew marriage ceremony.. so Jesus hasn't actually 'married' anyone yet, but he doesn't speak about that in the video.
 
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LW97

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LaurieB said:
There is no evidence that Jesus ever married. The post says "married a black woman" ... very interesting. Had He married (and he did NOT), it would have been to a brown woman as that is the part of the world Jesus lived in. Jesus did not have blue eyes and light skin. He lived in the middle east.
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Jesus didn't have long hair either.
 
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dcontroversal said:
Sounds like someone had a joint or a bottle of vodka before they came up with that drivel.....Jesus married no one.....much less a woman of color.......<---no offence meant to anyone.....!
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True. Jesus did not marry. But Jesus was a man of color Himself ... he had to be brown living in the Middle East. He definitely did not have Norwegian looks.
 
carl11

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posthuman said:
y'all might want to actually listen to the 'sermon' in OP. it's only 17 minutes.

gist:

• Song of Solomon is an allegory of Christ and His church.
• Solomon ~ Christ
• His bride ~ the church
• SoS 1:6 -- the bride is dark skinned, a 'black woman'
• therefore ((by metaphor)) Christ marries a black woman





a technical objection is that at this moment in time we're 'betrothed' waiting for the Groom to return to take His bride. we're in the middle of the traditional Hebrew marriage ceremony.. so Jesus hasn't actually 'married' anyone yet, but he doesn't speak about that in the video.
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I alluded to this same idea in my earlier post albeit no one caught it. I alluded to the fact she “was” black implying she was dirty but now has been made clean by Christ.
 
JaumeJ

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The title is a blasphemy, not because of the color of anyone but because of even the suggestion that our Lord married anyone in the flesh.

Here is a very important point to people of all colors.........if you cannot see beyond the color of skin
you do not see at all in the Spirit for we are all being made to be just like Jesus Christ; we will not be He, but
just like He. Now this is wonderful and too much to comprehend in its fullness until it actually comes to pass.

Praise God, He is worthy, not us, amen.
 
HeRoseFromTheDead

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Moses married a black woman. His sister had a problem with that so GOD made her as white as snow!
 
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HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Moses married a black woman. His sister had a problem with that so GOD made her as white as snow!
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blue_ladybug said:
Where in the bible does it say that?
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And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. Numbers 12:1

And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam [became] leprous, [white] as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, [she was] leprous. Numbers 12:9-10​
 
JaumeJ

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I do not find this superfluous fact in my Bible nor in other language Bibles.....

HeRoseFromTheDead said:
Moses married a black woman. His sister had a problem with that so GOD made her as white as snow!
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blue_ladybug

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Leprosy is a disease of the skin. Her skin may have LOOKED white, but she WAS still a black woman. Just like Michael Jackson, he was a black man even though he bleached his skin white. Maybe God gave her leprosy as a punishment, but certainly NOT because she was black. If God wanted Miriam to be white, he would've made her white before she was born. :)

HeRoseFromTheDead said:
And Miriam and Aaron spake against Moses because of the Ethiopian woman whom he had married: for he had married an Ethiopian woman. Numbers 12:1

And the anger of the LORD was kindled against them; and he departed. And the cloud departed from off the tabernacle; and, behold, Miriam [became] leprous, [white] as snow: and Aaron looked upon Miriam, and, behold, [she was] leprous. Numbers 12:9-10​
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JaumeJ said:
The title is a blasphemy, not because of the color of anyone but because of even the suggestion that our Lord married anyone in the flesh.

Here is a very important point to people of all colors.........if you cannot see beyond the color of skin
you do not see at all in the Spirit for we are all being made to be just like Jesus Christ; we will not be He, but
just like He. Now this is wonderful and too much to comprehend in its fullness until it actually comes to pass.

Praise God, He is worthy, not us, amen.
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yes, it is not a good idea to say things like this. you know, just like it is not a good idea to say that " real, true Christians do not need to read Paul's letters, they are for churches with problems ".

know anyone who has said this mr. j.j.?
 
BenFTW

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blue_ladybug said:
Leprosy is a disease of the skin. Her skin may have LOOKED white, but she WAS still a black woman. Just like Michael Jackson, he was a black man even though he bleached his skin white. Maybe God gave her leprosy as a punishment, but certainly NOT because she was black. If God wanted Miriam to be white, he would've made her white before she was born. :)
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I don't believe Miriam was the Ethiopian woman. I had to re-read it as well, and noticed it said Miriam became leprous, white as snow, not the Ethiopian woman.

Unless I am just ignorant and Miriam as well was black...
 
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blue_ladybug said:
Leprosy is a disease of the skin. Her skin may have LOOKED white, but she WAS still a black woman. Just like Michael Jackson, he was a black man even though he bleached his skin white. Maybe God gave her leprosy as a punishment, but certainly NOT because she was black. If God wanted Miriam to be white, he would've made her white before she was born. :)
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GOD made Miriam white for complaining about a black woman. Sorry if my initial wording wasn't clear.
 
JaumeJ

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I must apologize, Zipporah is referred to as an Ethiopian, and in Jewish writings a Cushite.

Now the Children of Cush, one of Noah's sons, are all black people according to the Hebrew
history sources. I know in Israel a black person is referred to as Cushi.

This is a wonderful revelation to me. Though I must have read this a few dozen times, I never
thought of an Ethiopian is black, and certainly not a Midianite. I do recall the saying of the Word
about an Ethiopian changing the color of his skin, but I did not realize until you mentioned it.

I will also paste in my next post here a cut from Hebrew history.

Thank you "He Rose....."
 
JaumeJ

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—Biblical Data:
Daughter of Jethro and wife of Moses. According to the Bible,Moses met the daughters of Jethro when they were being driven away from a well by shepherds; he assisted them, and was invited into the house of Jethro, who gave him Zipporah to be his wife (Ex. ii. 21). On his return to Egypt, Moses was accompanied by his wife, who saved him from great danger during their journey (ib. iv. 24-26). She appears to have returned with her children to her father's house; for after the exodus from Egypt, Jethro brought Zipporah and her children out to Moses in the wilderness (ib. xviii. 2-5). Zipporah is mentioned only once more in the Bible; namely, in Numbers xii. 1, where she is referred to as "the Ethiopian woman," for having married whom Moses is upbraided by Miriam and Aaron.


—In Rabbinical Literature:
Zipporah is mentioned by the Rabbis alternately with praise and with blame. Her name (= "bird") is explained as having been given her because, when questioned by her father as to the man who had rescued her, she flew out of the house like a bird and returned with Moses (Yalḳ., Shim'oni, i. 169). R. Joshua was of the opinion that Zipporah and Moses were always estranged, and that the latter did not love his wife (ib. 268). The name "Cushite" was given to her, it is said, because she was distinguished from other women by her beauty, even as the Ethiopians differed from other people in their complexions. The circumstance that she is twice referred to in one verse as "the Ethiopian" (Num. xii. 1) is explained as indicating that her actions were as distinctive as her beauty, and that she conducted herself no less royally while in her father's house than when she became the wife of Moses (Yalḳ., Shim'oni, 1238; comp. also M. Ḳ. 16b; Yer. Sanh. x. 28d).








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JaumeJ said:
Thank you "He Rose....."
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My pleasure. Here's that verse you mentioned.

If the Ethiopian shall change his skin, or the leopardess her spots, then shall ye be able to do good, having learnt evil. Jeremiah 13:23​

I read an interesting Jewish legend that claimed Moses married the Ethiopian woman while he was a lord in Egypt, and I guess got reunited with her when he returned to Egypt. So according to that he had two wives.
 
JaumeJ

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I do not know how I saw this as Moses..........Jesus never married any woman. To even think of this isa blasphemy of His very meaning.

My reference is to Moses having married Zipporah, a Cushite, specifically from Ethiopia.
 
JaumeJ

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I have no problem with anyone being any particular color for I know come the kingdom we are all the same, thus the color issues can only be important to people who would bring racism into the Kingdom, and that just ain't going to happen......Spirit, just like our Father.
 
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