JUDAS IN HELL?

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This is where a dispensational approach might clearly help. What was the ministry at that time. When was the dispensation of the grace of God pronounced. This dispensation preached a ministry according to what. Paul was a blasphemer of the Holy Ghost, he could not receive forgiveness under the ministry of the 12 apostles, blasphemy of the Holy Ghost was unforgivable. Judas was a blasphemer, not of the "Son of man" only, but of the Holy Ghost.
There are more than one way to bplaspheme

If a man say he is God is one way but if He repents hmmmm


Mark 7:22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye,blasphemy, pride, foolishness
 
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He most certainly did, some just don't understand what blasphemy of the Holy Ghost was during time past ministry. And, some don't understand the dispensation of grace & the ministry of reconciliation as well as the gospel accrording to the revelation of the mystery.
 
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He most certainly did, some just don't understand what blasphemy of the Holy Ghost was during time past ministry. And, some don't understand the dispensation of grace & the ministry of reconciliation as well as the gospel accrording to the revelation of the mystery.
You are twisting God word this is dangerous

Colossians 3:8
But now ye also put off all these; anger, wrath, malice, blasphemy, filthy communication out of your mouth.


  • Acts 19:37For ye have brought hither these men, which are neither robbers of churches,
  • nor yet blasphemers of your goddess.

  • 1 Timothy 1:13Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief.

  • 2 Timothy 3:2For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud,blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,

What paul meant when he said he was a blasphemer hmmm just like other men saying thing contary to God word and not as you stated


 

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There are more than one way to bplaspheme

If a man say he is God is one way but if He repents hmmmm


Mark 7:22Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit, lasciviousness, an evil eye,blasphemy, pride, foolishness

Yes, I think I showed a distinction in the last bit of my post, "Son of man" means something quite different than "speaking a word against the Holy Ghost". I am just sharing an opinion based on my understanding, you all do not have to see it or agree, I am ok with that. So, how did the pharisee commit blasphemy against the Holy Ghost, in many ways.
 
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One of Christ’s 12 apostles, Judas Iscariot, turned traitor like Ahithophel. Judas’ treacherous act was far more serious than that of Ahithophel. Judas acted against God’s only-begotten Son. In a prayer at the end of his earthly ministry, God’s Son reported about his followers: “When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:12) By here referring to Judas as “the son of destruction,” Jesus indicated that when Judas died, there was no hope of a return for him. He did not live on in God’s memory. He went, not to Hell, but to Gehenna. One way ticket! No return for the son of destruction!!!
 
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So why are here on the internet you should be feeding those children hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Not by power or might but spirit says the Lord. I can't feed those children with money. I can however spread the word that God is able to perform what I say.
 
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hmmm since you dont like prosperity as you often post you should give away all your money

what your favourite quote about again :rolleyes:
I never said I didn't like prosperity, only that I do not like robbery, and that of God. Money is not God! But you seem to take that "in God we trust" quote on that piece of paper very seriously. Is it money or God that takes care of you?
 
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One of Christ’s 12 apostles, Judas Iscariot, turned traitor like Ahithophel. Judas’ treacherous act was far more serious than that of Ahithophel. Judas acted against God’s only-begotten Son. In a prayer at the end of his earthly ministry, God’s Son reported about his followers: “When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:12) By here referring to Judas as “the son of destruction,” Jesus indicated that when Judas died, there was no hope of a return for him. He did not live on in God’s memory. He went, not to Hell, but to Gehenna. One way ticket! No return for the son of destruction!!!
Judas is not the son of perdition. That is the first man, us in flesh and blood bodies that are born to die. We are the sons of perdition.
 
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One of Christ’s 12 apostles, Judas Iscariot, turned traitor like Ahithophel. Judas’ treacherous act was far more serious than that of Ahithophel. Judas acted against God’s only-begotten Son. In a prayer at the end of his earthly ministry, God’s Son reported about his followers: “When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:12) By here referring to Judas as “the son of destruction,” Jesus indicated that when Judas died, there was no hope of a return for him. He did not live on in God’s memory. He went, not to Hell, but to Gehenna. One way ticket! No return for the son of destruction!!!

Judus was born a lost soul

What do you mean gehenna ?:confused:


Would judus be resurrected ?
 
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I never said I didn't like prosperity, only that I do not like robbery, and that of God. Money is not God! But you seem to take that "in God we trust" quote on that piece of paper very seriously. Is it money or God that takes care of you?
[h=3]Proverbs 10:22[/h]King James Version (KJV)

22 The blessing of the Lord, it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it.
 
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Not by power or might but spirit says the Lord. I can't feed those children with money. I can however spread the word that God is able to perform what I say.

Jesus fed the multitude and preached to them
 
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One of Christ’s 12 apostles, Judas Iscariot, turned traitor like Ahithophel. Judas’ treacherous act was far more serious than that of Ahithophel. Judas acted against God’s only-begotten Son. In a prayer at the end of his earthly ministry, God’s Son reported about his followers: “When I was with them I used to watch over them on account of your own name which you have given me; and I have kept them, and not one of them is destroyed except the son of destruction, in order that the scripture might be fulfilled.” (John 17:12) By here referring to Judas as “the son of destruction,” Jesus indicated that when Judas died, there was no hope of a return for him. He did not live on in God’s memory. He went, not to Hell, but to Gehenna. One way ticket! No return for the son of destruction!!!

JW hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
 
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I often wonder if Judas hung himself before or after Christ was crucified. If Christ had risen already and our sins forgiven us, then it makes me wonder if Judas (with his last dying breath asked for forgivness)?
If Christ had not risen yet, then Judas would had to have sacrificed to God to cover his sins & that doesn't seem likely. Kinda makes me wonder if Judas is going to be there when we get there. Anybody else got any comments?
Judas was called the son of perdition (destruction) and did not repent in a biblical manner. He went to the priests instead of Christ and was even called a devil by the Lord. I would say he is cooking, but that is only betwixt God and Judas.
 
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I often wonder if Judas hung himself before or after Christ was crucified. If Christ had risen already and our sins forgiven us, then it makes me wonder if Judas (with his last dying breath asked for forgivness)?
If Christ had not risen yet, then Judas would had to have sacrificed to God to cover his sins & that doesn't seem likely. Kinda makes me wonder if Judas is going to be there when we get there. Anybody else got any comments?
The forgiveness of sin did not hinge upon the moment that Christ died or rose from the grave. He said they are forgiven before He died.
And technically, Judas sacrificed an inner animal on the altar when he gave the money back to the pharasees and repented.

To wonder if he will be in paradise is to gaze upon a corpse. To actually worry about it is to touch a corpse.
To be satisfied that he will not be in paradise, is to eat leavened bread. To be satisfied that he certainly will be is to eat unleavened bread.
 

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There was a reason God recorded Judas' words "I have betrayed the innocent blood." He repented of transgression to the law, "when he saw that He was condemned"( Matt 27:3 kjv), not of rejecting his Messiah. The ministry calling was to the acknowledging Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God. "If you do not believe that I am He, you will die in your sins"
 
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Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
 

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Mat 27:3 Then Judas, which had betrayed him, when he saw that he was condemned, repented himself, and brought again the thirty pieces of silver to the chief priests and elders,
He sure did, as follows;

4*Saying, I have sinned in that I have betrayed the innocent blood. And they said, What is that to us? see thou to that.

He saw to it alright, the law requires death for, "betraying innocent blood"-Judas hung himself accordingly.
 

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He repented of transgression to the law, "when he saw that He was condemned"( Matt 27:3 kjv), not of rejecting his Messiah.

the crime Jesus was accused of was blasphemy.

if Jesus was innocent, then it follows that He is the Messiah
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Judas was called the son of perdition (destruction) and did not repent in a biblical manner. He went to the priests instead of Christ and was even called a devil by the Lord. I would say he is cooking, but that is only betwixt God and Judas.
He will be roasting