Mary born without sin? Or RCC nonsense?

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Nonsense is far to moderate a word..

Call it what it is an Abominable doctrine of devils...


to others who have no real authority to free and correct interpretation = doctrine of devils
Catholic Church....... real authority to free and correct interpretation = Phil.4:8
wincam
 
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to others who have no real authority to free and correct interpretation = doctrine of devils
Catholic Church....... real authority to free and correct interpretation = Phil.4:8
wincam
Isaiah 42 verse 8; "I am The Lord, that is my name: and My Glory WILL I NOT GIVE TO ANOTHER, NEITHER MY PRAISE TO GRAVEN IMAGES"..Statues of anyone are called "GRAVEN IMAGES"
Isaiah 41 verse 29: "Behold, they are ALL VANITY, their works ARE NOTHING: their molten images are WIND AND CONFUSION"
 
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Its the Holy Spirit ONLY who has the Authority to Interpret Scriptures, not the Catholic Church who Worships Mary as a God above God!

And yes wincam you Catholics do Worship Mary as a God. Every time you Pray to Mary you are affirming Mary is your God. Every time you ask Mary to help you, you are affirming that Mary is your God. Every time you Pray the Rosary to a statue of Mary you are affirming that Mary is your God.

Could it be wincam that God has totally blinded you to the Truth? Could it be God has turned His back on you because of your sins of Praying to Mary as your God?

Either way i do believe unless you reject Mary you will not be allowed to enter into Paradise with us True Children of God. Is this really what you want? Eternity in the Lake of Fire with Satan and his angles?

You still have a chance wincam, you still can walk away from Mary like i did and be with Jesus Christ for all Eternity!
 
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Mary is all of ours sister - but oh such a special sister, - does she have special powers
because she birthed the Son of God? you all can decide that for yourselves...
 
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if mary was without sin why didn't she die on the cross for us
 
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if mary was without sin why didn't she die on the cross for us
In The KJV, Jesus never addressed Mary as "Mother" or "Mom" he addressed her as "Woman" Read John Chapter Two at the Weddong Feast at Cana: "Woman, wjat have I to do with Thee"?

If addressed my Mother as "Woman" She would be one loke White on Rice!! Ouch
 
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In The KJV, Jesus never addressed Mary as "Mother" or "Mom" he addressed her as "Woman" Read John Chapter Two at the Weddong Feast at Cana: "Woman, wjat have I to do with Thee"?

If addressed my Mother as "Woman" She would be one loke White on Rice!! Ouch
does that mean Mary was not His mother?
 
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to others who have no real authority to free and correct interpretation = doctrine of devils
Catholic Church....... real authority to free and correct interpretation = Phil.4:8
wincam
Hi Wincam

Hmmmmmm? “Real” authority to free and correct interpretation in respect to the verse you offered?

It I think by searching the whole context it could help us get to the bottom of.... "whose authority has the proper interpretation"?

Is that the same kind of "Real Presence" when it comes to eating "real bread" according to that "Real Presence" doctrine of the Catholic fathers which end ups drinking real literal blood when we do measure our faith in respect to the Catholic fathers? ?

Is the real authority that of Christ, the Lord of scriptures or that of men, the private interpretations as personal commentaries found in the Vatican library.?

Rejoice in the Lord alway: and again I say, Rejoice. Let your moderation be known unto all men. The Lord is at hand. Phi 4:4-5

Looks like in the Lord, by the Lord and through to the glory of the Lord.. I don't see the Peter at hand or Mary?(They are asleep awaiting for thier new promised incorruptible bodies).

God is not know by the private interpretations of all men.... but to all men knowing the lord is at hand. Not knowing the fathers of the Catholic sect which for some reason you think you must? But why? Where do you find we must have the faith of Christ the lord of glory in respect to the sinful fathers?

Be careful for nothing; but in every thing by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known unto God.And the peace of God, which passeth all understanding, shall keep your hearts and minds through Christ Jesus. Phi 4:6-7

There is nothing so far that would give me the ideology to believe (have faith) that we should measure our Christian faith in respect to the Catholic fathers and pretend it provides the peace of God that surpasses all understanding. So far it looks like from my perspective you are batting at zero percent. Three strikes and you’re out.

Now we can get to the proof verse you offered in respect to your sect.

Phi 4:8 Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things


That’s looking at the whole context and seeing what the Holy Spirit who wrote it infallibly informs us. After all the context is not about the Catholic sect .They are not even mentioned in the scriptures. The Nazarene denomination is the first mentioned sect on this side of the cross.

You seem to be trying really hard to convince others we must rely on the private interpretations of the Catholic fathers as being taught by sinful men rather than rejoicing in the Lord always : and again Christians say, Rejoicing in the Lord alone.

He is the subject matter of the verse you say is ..... real authority to free and correct interpretation = Phil.4:8 After all he is the one that ultimately gives us the peace of God which surpasses all human understanding.

We already know what happens if we measure the faith of God in respect to the Catholic fathers .(Christ nemesis) it the same as measuring that faith of god in respect to any father. We are to call no man our spiritual Holy Father on earth .One is in heaven

Fill ye up then "the measure" of your fathers.Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? Mat 23:32
 
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does that mean Mary was not His mother?

Hi Chief..

No it means she is his mother. The source of the corrupted flesh of the Son of man that aged in a process of decay leading toward death. Ultimately in the end of the matter returning back to the lifeless, spiritless dust it was taken from.

It was supposed be corrupted typified as sinful. He needed corrupted flesh and blood which could never enter the new order in order to condemn the eternal wage of sin in the flesh.

Appearing as a theosophy as a mere vision would not provide the substance needed of the demonstration.

A supernatural Spirit body which denotes no mother or father, beginning of days or end of Spirit life does not have flesh and blood to offer as a demonstration.. Therefore it was necessary for God according to His work of faith to move and bless our sister in the lord, Mary... by having his great mercy on her ( not through her) That kind of ideology as having mercy in respect to a sinner would promote blasphemy.

Romans 8:3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
 
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No jaybird88, what it means is Mary had no power over Jesus. It means Marys time was over and done away with.

Jesus Christ knew the Catholics would try to use His Mother to deceive people. This is why He said what He said because of the corruption of the Catholics.
 

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to others who have no real authority to free and correct interpretation = doctrine of devils
Catholic Church....... real authority to free and correct interpretation = Phil.4:8
wincam
Hmmm... this is the opinion of someone who has "no real authority". Take it whence it comes. ;)
 
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Mary is all of ours sister - but oh such a special sister, - does she have special powers
because she birthed the Son of God? you all can decide that for yourselves...
Mary was a young Virgin jewish girl, chosen to fulfill a role God planned for her. That is the only "Power" she ever had as a Specially chosen human to bear God inside a Fleshly body. God is pure, sinless, and Holy. Mary was a virgin never been touched by a man. One other thing; Mary was going to bear "The King of Kings, the Lord of Lords"....If you read Chronicles, Mary's Ancestors began with Ruth, so she came came from Royalty....Joseph, her future busband also had a royal bloodline through the lineage of Jesse, The Father of David.

In any case..Mary IS NOT "The Mother of God" as Catholic theology teaches. She is however the Mother of Jesus, the Fleshly body of God. God had no mother, ( Hebrews 7 verse 3)
 
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does that mean Mary was not His mother?
Mary was indeed The Mother of The Body (Son) Jesus, but she was Not (repeat) NOT the "Mother of GOD"...God never had a Mother or Father (Hebrews 7 verse3) Notice she conceived by the Power of The Holy Ghost.
 
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To the Catholics Mary is as powerful our more powerful as God. After all its Mary only who has the power to free the Catholics from Purgatory if they wear a certain piece of Clothing when they die.

And yes the Catholics do believe if they wear this piece of Clothing they have special powers from Mary.
 
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To the Catholics Mary is as powerful our more powerful as God. After all its Mary only who has the power to free the Catholics from Purgatory if they wear a certain piece of Clothing when they die.

And yes the Catholics do believe if they wear this piece of Clothing they have special powers from Mary.
And that "Special piece of Clothing" is most likely a Noose because they are "Hung" unless they Repent, and get Converted.
 
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Mary was indeed The Mother of The Body (Son) Jesus, but she was Not (repeat) NOT the "Mother of GOD"...God never had a Mother or Father (Hebrews 7 verse3) Notice she conceived by the Power of The Holy Ghost.
There is an ancient heresy called Nestorianism which teaches that Jesus has two separate natures, one human and one divine. Historic Christianity has held the contrary, that Jesus is fully human and fully divine, and the two natures are in full union.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostatic_union
 
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There is an ancient heresy called Nestorianism which teaches that Jesus has two separate natures, one human and one divine. Historic Christianity has held the contrary, that Jesus is fully human and fully divine, and the two natures are in full union.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypostatic_union
I was born and raised a Catholic, and swallowed out of spiritual ignorance everything they taught us.. Thank God for hus truth
 
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To the Catholics Mary is as powerful our more powerful as God. After all its Mary only who has the power to free the Catholics from Purgatory if they wear a certain piece of Clothing when they die.

And yes the Catholics do believe if they wear this piece of Clothing they have special powers from Mary.
I didn't think Mary was more powerful than God when I was RC.

I don't know what the cloth thing you are referring to is about.

I still have Rosary beads from my RC days, and also remember having a Scapular. Don't know what happened to the latter, but neither sounds like this "certain piece of Clothing" you are vaguely mentioning.
 
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I didn't think Mary was more powerful than God when I was RC.


I didn't think Mary was more powerful than God when I was RC either. But nobody will listen to us, we're just ex-Catholics.
 
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I didn't think Mary was more powerful than God when I was RC either. But nobody will listen to us, we're just ex-Catholics.
I'm Catholic, just not Roman Catholic.

Sometimes I agree with the criticisms against RCism, sometimes I don't.