Monkeys become people?

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Billyd

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You forgot to say that on top that...other comets crashed into this ball of death and brought exactly the right amount of water with them and then this grey ball we call the moon was put exactly the right distance away... not to mention that the earth formed in the exact right spot in relation to the sun. And that doesn't even consider the sun being the exact kind of star formed from nothing to give us warmth....and all that doesn't even scratch the surface as to the statistical impossibilities for things to be the way they are. We are here the way that God put us here and are the offspring of eight people who built a boat out of gopher wood.
You must be talking about the comet Hydro. It's tail got caught up in the earth's rotation and enough water was wrung out of it to fill all the lakes and oceans. I believe that later it was the comet Nacl that drug it's tail through many of bodies of water, thus giving us salt water.
 
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Sirk

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Evolution is straight from the pit of hell. Imo. Lol. What's funny about it is that they would have you believe something that supposedly happened millions of years ago that no one saw.... but they don't believe something that happened 2000 years ago that lots of people did see....and wrote about..... Jesus life death and resurrection. Oh the irony.
 

kodiak

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read your own words..they don't believe we came from monkeys but have a common ancestor (that was like a monkey) they just play games with words so people don't see how stupid what they are saying is.

You can change the name of it to whatever...but its still a monkey... and its basically the same monkey we have today.. It did not evolve...well they say it did..but it didn't "change" .....what?
lol....don't forget making up imaginary things to add to word games.....They say dark matter exists and they don't have any proof dark matter exists....
 

crossnote

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lol....don't forget making up imaginary things to add to word games.....They say dark matter exists and they don't have any proof dark matter exists....
What do you mean it don't exist?
I Googled it and it 'showed up'. :p
 

Ahwatukee

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If monkeys become people ...why do we still have monkeys and we don't have monkeys in the process of becoming people?

I mean if you believe millions of years ago monkeys became men...why did the evolution process stop with certain monkeys? Why do we now have monkeys..why did those monkeys not change as the other monkeys did... and if evolution is real science, why did process change some monkeys and leave other monkeys as monkeys? Why don't we see some monkeys changing to men now? Same monkeys they claim was around millions of years ago? Why does evolution only work in the imagination of some people who deny God as Creator?
So true Mitspa! And since everything supposedly crawled out of that primordial pool, why did the rest of the evolution stop. We should be seeing all of the stages of evolution for all animals and mankind. And isn't amazing that evolution created both male and female of everything. Not only that, but after evolution was done creating, it decided that it also had to create food for all of those things that crawled out of the primordial pool.

Speaking of humans becoming monkey's, I happened to watch "2001: A Space Odyssey" and I had not remember seeing the first part of the movie which showed a scene depicting mankind's beginnings as ape/chimps with two rival groups showing one group developing the use of the bones of different animals as weapons by accident as they fight with this rival group. As soon as I saw it I was like, "EVOLUTION! Not happening!"
 
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biblicalsandy

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I've seen people evolve into monkeys, but never the other way around!..lol
 
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pottersclay

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After seeing the op I got so mad that I threw my banana, jumped up and down screaming and beating my chest saying no way dude, and I am sure all my neighbors heard me from my tree fort.
 
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Kaycie

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The bible says let every man be a liar and God be right. Adam and Eve were not monkeys, yet were made on the same day as monkeys. Who are you going to believe- man who does not have a perfect track record, who once thought the world was flat, or God Who has a perfect track record? God always leaves room for faith, because without faith it is impossible to please God. Personally, I choose to believe God, even when I don't understand every detail.
 
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#69
Yea but before that...monkeys ..they claim those Apemen ...used to be monkeys
And before that a mermaid and before that fish and before that sand and before that poooof Nothing :D

My great grandmother was a catfish (should be the title of Stephen Hawking's book) or maybe The dumbest smart guy...
 
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The bible says let every man be a liar and God be right. Adam and Eve were not monkeys, yet were made on the same day as monkeys. Who are you going to believe- man who does not have a perfect track record, who once thought the world was flat, or God Who has a perfect track record? God always leaves room for faith, because without faith it is impossible to please God. Personally, I choose to believe God, even when I don't understand every detail.
No monkeys was day 5 and Adam and Eve day 6 :)
 

Magenta

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After seeing the op I got so mad that I threw my banana, jumped up and down screaming and beating my chest saying no way dude, and I am sure all my neighbors heard me from my tree fort.
You should not throw bananas: our DNA is 50% shared with theirs'.

Other interesting facts:

  • If the Sun was scaled down to the size of a white blood cell, the
    Milky Way galaxy would be the size of the United States.

    • There are more living organisms in a teaspoonful of soil than there are people alive on Earth.
  • http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/weird-news/humans-share-50-dna-bananas-2482139
 
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Kaycie

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No monkeys was day 5 and Adam and Eve day 6 :)
Nope, day 5 God made birds and fish alive. But God made animals on day 6, and on the same day made mankind in His image- both male and female (unlike animals we have souls).
 
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Nope, day 5 God made birds and fish alive. But God made animals on day 6, and on the same day made mankind in His image- both male and female (unlike animals we have souls).
That reminds me of something my friend, also an ex-Darwinist, pointed out in favor of biblical creationism over evolution. In the Darwinist paradigm fowl evolved way later than everything else. In the Bible, the birds were created by God one day before the land animals. Well birds themselves clearly disprove evolution and favor creationism because a lot of their design and behaviors are key to their survival as a species. Even in the darwinistic paradigm its not really possible for them to have been able to gradually adapt their features like plumage, crests, etc since a lot of their mating habits and flock/social survival depend on these specially designed features. Even their behaviors like migration, dances, and songs and such baffle the old earthers because they go hand in hand with their design. Basically without the design first being in place and the behaviors they'd have gone extinct.

Good example of intelligent design by the God of the Bible be these feathery guys:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-V3OYwwQU
[video=youtube;DU-V3OYwwQU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DU-V3OYwwQU[/video]
 
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dharma-bum

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Regardless of the validity of evolution, i think it is important to have a proper understanding of its assertions before discussing and refuting it. So i will reiterate: "evolutionists" do not claim that people came from monkeys. If this is how you view evolution, then you are building your counter-arguments on a very weak foundation. Here is a simple analogy that may give you a better understanding of the theory: Monkeys are said to be more like our distant cousins than our ancestors. Humans do not have any monkeys as ancestors.

If you say that "monkeys did not evolve into people," Evolutionists will tell you "You are correct!" They will allege that "millions of years ago, before monkeys ever existed, great apes (the 'homo' genus to which humans belong) split from the 'pan' genus, and followed an entirely different evolutionary course (from which we have many fossils to show as evidence). Monkeys split from the 'pan' genus long after hominids, and although we share a common ancestor (probably never to be found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee–human_last_common_ancestor ), humans have no monkey ancestors."

If you do not understand this distinction, then you will be poorly equipped to discuss human origins with a well informed "evolutionist." There are many holes in the theory. But this is not one. Evolutionary theory does not claim that "monkeys become people."
 
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Miri

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Regardless of the validity of evolution, i think it is important to have a proper understanding of its assertions before discussing and refuting it. So i will reiterate: "evolutionists" do not claim that people came from monkeys. If this is how you view evolution, then you are building your counter-arguments on a very weak foundation. Here is a simple analogy that may give you a better understanding of the theory: Monkeys are said to be more like our distant cousins than our ancestors. Humans do not have any monkeys as ancestors.

If you say that "monkeys did not evolve into people," Evolutionists will tell you "You are correct!" They will allege that "millions of years ago, before monkeys ever existed, great apes (the 'homo' genus to which humans belong) split from the 'pan' genus, and followed an entirely different evolutionary course (from which we have many fossils to show as evidence). Monkeys split from the 'pan' genus long after hominids, and although we share a common ancestor (probably never to be found: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chimpanzee%E2%80%93human_last_common_ancestor ), humans have no monkey ancestors."

If you do not understand this distinction, then you will be poorly equipped to discuss human origins with a well informed "evolutionist." There are many holes in the theory. But this is not one. Evolutionary theory does not claim that "monkeys become people."

Yeah we know, you will have to read the whole thread to see.

The point is there is no evidence for evolution, there are lots of theories out there and
every so often the theories change or are replaced. The theory of evolution in and of
itself evolves. Do you see how it makes no sense to believe in a theory which is
constantly changing. If you believe in evolution then what you believe now will be
different to what you believe in a few years time when it all changes again! How can
an evolutionist put their trust in something which does not know what it will be
the next day or the next.

There is lots of supernatural evidence for God and creation, I don't mean ghosts etc.
I mean that God is not bound by our limitations He operates outside the natural.
After all he created man, not the other way around. The whole of creation is a witness
to God.

He is yesterday, today and forever, He does not change.

As for the evidence, listen to the testimonies, go look in the testimony forum.
Hear what people are saying, look at the miraculous. Although to be honest even the
people who saw Jesus perform miracles did not believe what their eyes were telling them.

Why, because they were blinded to the truth, where there is God there is also Satan and
there is plenty of evidence that he exists as well. He does not want people to believe in
creation, oh no that won't do, imagine that!

God is spirit and we have a spiritual dimension to us, enquire of God, look for Him with all your
heart, lean not on your own understanding. Ask God to reveal Himself to you. Seek and you
will find. Dare you find God, that would be life changing!
 
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Miri

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#76
I'm going to be really late for work now but for anyone who is interested i
came across this the other day and I've never noticed it before.

The writer set out that the realm was created then 3 days later the ruler
was created.

So day 1 light was created
day 4 the ruler of it was created is sun, moon, stars

day 2 sky and oceans, then day 5 birds and fish

day 3 dry land, then day 6 animals and people

I found this really interesting as Jesus was in the tomb 3 days and
Jonah in the whale 3 days etc. Was this to show Jesus was now the ruler
over the realm, over all things etc when he rose from the dead.

The ultimate 3 is in 1 John 5 there are three that bear witness in heaven
the Father, the Word (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.
 
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Miri

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#77
Ha just realised I'm not at work today I keep thinking it's Tuesday today! It's been a
really confusing few weeks!

Just think God will give me a perfect brain in heaven!
 
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dharma-bum

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Yeah we know, you will have to read the whole thread to see.
Please don't be condescending. I did read the whole thread. Some people didn't seem to grasp the timeline of alleged primate evolution, so I was trying to clarify for them. After all, the thread is titled "Monkeys become people?"

The point is there is no evidence for evolution
No two humans have the same genotype (except identical twins), and genes are known to mutate (change their nucleotide sequence) through various processes. Given this well known, and thoroughly studied evidence, I don't think it is irrational to consider the idea that an amalgamation of rare beneficial mutations could culminate into evolution.


there are lots of theories out there and
every so often the theories change or are replaced. The theory of evolution in and of
itself evolves. Do you see how it makes no sense to believe in a theory which is
constantly changing. If you believe in evolution then what you believe now will be
different to what you believe in a few years time when it all changes again! How can
an evolutionist put their trust in something which does not know what it will be
the next day or the next.
That is the beauty of science, it allows for theories to change in light of new evidence. I think there is confusion here from misconstruing scientific confidence with belief. I doubt any scientists who subscribe to evolutionary theory would claim 100% confidence in their position. They simply believe that the theory is the best description we currently have for our evidence and observations.

There is lots of supernatural evidence for God and creation, I don't mean ghosts etc.
I mean that God is not bound by our limitations He operates outside the natural.
After all he created man, not the other way around. The whole of creation is a witness
to God.

He is yesterday, today and forever, He does not change.

As for the evidence, listen to the testimonies, go look in the testimony forum.
Hear what people are saying, look at the miraculous. Although to be honest even the
people who saw Jesus perform miracles did not believe what their eyes were telling them.

Why, because they were blinded to the truth, where there is God there is also Satan and
there is plenty of evidence that he exists as well. He does not want people to believe in
creation, oh no that won't do, imagine that!

God is spirit and we have a spiritual dimension to us, enquire of God, look for Him with all your
heart, lean not on your own understanding. Ask God to reveal Himself to you. Seek and you
will find. Dare you find God, that would be life changing!
It was :)
 
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Nope, day 5 God made birds and fish alive. But God made animals on day 6, and on the same day made mankind in His image- both male and female (unlike animals we have souls).
Whoops, that darn monkey went below the radar on day 6 in my books ;)
 

Budman

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I don't think it is irrational to consider the idea that an amalgamation of rare beneficial mutations could culminate into evolution.
Name one mutation that generated an increase in (not duplication of) genetic information - which is a requirement for new functionality and macro-evolution.