Need help with discussion of gays from biblical view
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Where do you think you got the idea that it's genetic? Not from the bible..right? And it is the foundation of many lies they are telling to pervert our society. . As far as trying to rationalize the issue and accepting this lie as part of my logic...I don't see any reason to believe something that is so clearly a lie..I can't allow myself to reason with you in that error. The fact is that God's word says it's unacceptable to Him...as a believer or a nonbeliever and that's what the world needs to hear..not this idea that they are really born to be a sexual deviant.
Clearly sexual perversion runs rife through our social order, did not your other thread attempt to highlight this fact? Saying something is natural is not necessarily an attempt to justify it either, for we know that the natural man is enmity to God. We are all born perverted toward God. It is a spiritual condition, is it not? This perversion toward God manifests many ways, I would think. And yet homosexuality is not something that everyone "suffers" from, and could be genetically determined to an extent. Saying that is a possibility does not mean that other deviations are necessarily determined genetically, nor does it excuse sin. We are all prone to sin. Right? It is part and parcel of being human. To say that is not an attempt to justify sin any more than saying homosexuality could be genetically influenced is. Everyone is born with gender, and most have a sexual drive, which is pretty primal, and very much genetically determined.
The bible defines the origin of ppl lusting after the same sex sin, but we all sin and thus this does not describe the root cause of why some have such desires and some don't.
The truth indeed sets us free however there are different levels of the truth we are able to understand at the level of maturty we are at and thus while some can clearly see the truth behind the truth others cannot yet.
The truth indeed sets us free however there are different levels of the truth we are able to understand at the level of maturty we are at and thus while some can clearly see the truth behind the truth others cannot yet.
I do and many of those terms I consider myself because I am a sinner too I am flawed I rebel against God sometimes I lack his love I lack his heart, but I will never call anyone else those things. If you are fine with doing that then that is between you and god but that just isn't me I want to treat all with respect no matter how evil they are or how dark their hearts are. This is how God taught me to be and the love for God and all others compels me to do so.
I know the path I must follow and if this bothers you I cannot help that
I know the path I must follow and if this bothers you I cannot help that
What lies are being promoted, Mitspa? That sexual perversion is rife in society? That people are born bent toward sin? I think I made those points very clear. Why do you pretend I have not? There is something wrong with your attitude. Being human is a genetic thing, you know. Humans are bent toward sin. Does that justify it in your mind? Will you say I am trying to justify it just because it is an undeniable fact? LOL. You can't see the forest for the trees.
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Ok you are a sinner in the flesh...but you are not in the flesh and are not subject to the flesh as a spirit filled believer ...God giving you the grace that teaches you to deny ungodliness and power over sin...not grace to teach you ungodliness and to submit to sin.... So their is deliverance from sin and the lust of the flesh in Christ...that's what a person in bondage to sin needs to know....not that they was born to be a slave to a certain sin ... There is a point when we have to tell them the truth and not bring ourselves out of the position Christ died to give us. I am not a slave to sin , because of Christ and His grace has taught me to live godly in this present evil age. That's the message of the gospel.
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There is a huge difference between the fact that we are all born sinners and trying to make a special case for gays as being born with a "gay" gene ... there bye making them less responsible for their behavior ....and that's exactly what is being done with the whole nonsense about the "gay" gene ... and again the logical conclusion is that every pervert has some special gene to excuse their behavior ...any honest person can see that's the agenda at play with this insane idea that folks are born gay...ITS A LIE ...period
Not at all. I am not here to delete your post or any ones else when they are civil. I was just making a point of when this topic is posted it does 9 out of 10 times becomes 1. your gay bashing" 2. Your supporting sin". But you can post what ever you like . As long as it meets the rules even if I think there could be a motive... I could be wrong 
that is something you do not hear much on here lol
that is something you do not hear much on here lol