New Gay Bible Prevents Homophobic Misinterpretation of Key Verses; Titled The Queen J

[crossnote]

The QJV'ers had better hope that this one verse doesn't apply to all of Scripture...


(ABP+) I bear witnessG3140 G1473 to every one G3956 hearingG191 theG3588 wordsG3056 of theG3588 prophecyG4394 G3588 of this scroll;G975 G3778 ifG1437 anyoneG5100 should addG2007 uponG1909 these,G1473 [2will placeG2007 3uponG1909 4himG1473 G3588 1God]G2316 theG3588 calamitiesG4127 G3588 being writtenG1125 inG1722 G3588 this scroll.G975 G3778

(ABP-G+) μαρτυρω εγωG3140 G1473 παντιG3956 ακουοντιG191 τουςG3588 λογουςG3056 τηςG3588 προφητειαςG4394 τουG3588 βιβλιου τουτουG975 G3778 εανG1437 τιςG5100 επιτιθηG2007 επ΄G1909 αυταG1473 επιθησειG2007 επ΄G1909 αυτονG1473 οG3588 θεοςG2316 ταςG3588 πληγαςG4127 ταςG3588 γεγραμμεναςG1125 ενG1722 τωG3588 βιβλιω τουτωG975 G3778

(Darby) *I* testify to every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any one shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book.

(EMTV) I testify to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues having been written in this book.

(ESV) I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,

(GNT) Μαρτυρῶ ἐγὼ παντὶ τῷ ἀκούοντι τοὺς λόγους τῆς προφητείας τοῦ βιβλίου τούτου· ἐάν τις ἐπιθῇ ἐπ᾿ αὐτά, ἐπιθήσει ὁ Θεὸς ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν τὰς πληγὰς τὰς γεγραμμένας ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ·

(HNT) מעיד אני בכל־השמע דברי נבואת הספר הזה אשר אם־יוסיף איש עליהם יוסיף עליו האלהים את־המכות הכתובות בספר הזה׃

(ISV) I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will strike him with the plagues that are written in this book.

(KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

(KJV+) ForG1063 I testifyG4828 unto every manG3956 that hearethG191 theG3588 wordsG3056 of theG3588 prophecyG4394 of thisG5127 book,G975 IfG1437 any manG5100 shall addG2007 untoG4314 these things,G5023 GodG2316 shall addG2007 untoG1909 himG846 theG3588 plaguesG4127 that are writtenG1125 inG1722 thisG5129 book:G975

(LEB) I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues written in this book.

(LITV) For I testify together with everyone hearing the Words of the prophecy of this Book, if anyone adds to these things, God will add upon him the plagues having been written in this Book.

(Rotherham) I, bear witness, unto every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this scroll:—If anyone shall lay aught upon them, God, will lay upon him, the plagues which are written in this scroll;

(The Scriptures 1998+) For I witness to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, Elohim shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book,

(WNT) "I solemnly declare to every one who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book, that if any one adds to those words, God will add to him the plagues spoken of in this book;

(YLT) `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,

 

[PatientSpirit]

The QJV'ers had better hope that this one verse doesn't apply to all of Scripture...


(ABP+) I bear witnessG3140 G1473 to every one G3956 hearingG191 theG3588 wordsG3056 of theG3588 prophecyG4394 G3588 of this scroll;G975 G3778 ifG1437 anyoneG5100 should addG2007 uponG1909 these,G1473 [2will placeG2007 3uponG1909 4himG1473 G3588 1God]G2316 theG3588 calamitiesG4127 G3588 being writtenG1125 inG1722 G3588 this scroll.G975 G3778

(ABP-G+) μαρτυρω εγωG3140 G1473 παντιG3956 ακουοντιG191 τουςG3588 λογουςG3056 τηςG3588 προφητειαςG4394 τουG3588 βιβλιου τουτουG975 G3778 εανG1437 τιςG5100 επιτιθηG2007 επ΄G1909 αυταG1473 επιθησειG2007 επ΄G1909 αυτονG1473 οG3588 θεοςG2316 ταςG3588 πληγαςG4127 ταςG3588 γεγραμμεναςG1125 ενG1722 τωG3588 βιβλιω τουτωG975 G3778

(Darby) *I* testify to every one who hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any one shall add to these things, God shall add to him the plagues which are written in this book.

(EMTV) I testify to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, may God add to him the plagues having been written in this book.

(ESV) I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described in this book,

(GNT) Μαρτυρῶ ἐγὼ παντὶ τῷ ἀκούοντι τοὺς λόγους τῆς προφητείας τοῦ βιβλίου τούτου· ἐάν τις ἐπιθῇ ἐπ᾿ αὐτά, ἐπιθήσει ὁ Θεὸς ἐπ᾿ αὐτὸν τὰς πληγὰς τὰς γεγραμμένας ἐν τῷ βιβλίῳ τούτῳ·

(HNT) מעיד אני בכל־השמע דברי נבואת הספר הזה אשר אם־יוסיף איש עליהם יוסיף עליו האלהים את־המכות הכתובות בספר הזה׃

(ISV) I warn everyone who hears the words of the prophecy in this book: If anyone adds anything to them, God will strike him with the plagues that are written in this book.

(KJV) For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

(KJV+) ForG1063 I testifyG4828 unto every manG3956 that hearethG191 theG3588 wordsG3056 of theG3588 prophecyG4394 of thisG5127 book,G975 IfG1437 any manG5100 shall addG2007 untoG4314 these things,G5023 GodG2316 shall addG2007 untoG1909 himG846 theG3588 plaguesG4127 that are writtenG1125 inG1722 thisG5129 book:G975

(LEB) I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy of this book: if anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues written in this book.

(LITV) For I testify together with everyone hearing the Words of the prophecy of this Book, if anyone adds to these things, God will add upon him the plagues having been written in this Book.

(Rotherham) I, bear witness, unto every one that heareth the words of the prophecy of this scroll:—If anyone shall lay aught upon them, God, will lay upon him, the plagues which are written in this scroll;

(The Scriptures 1998+) For I witness to everyone hearing the words of the prophecy of this book: If anyone adds to them, Elohim shall add to him the plagues that are written in this book,

(WNT) "I solemnly declare to every one who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book, that if any one adds to those words, God will add to him the plagues spoken of in this book;

(YLT) `For I testify to every one hearing the words of the prophecy of this scroll, if any one may add unto these, God shall add to him the plagues that have been written in this scroll,

I do not understand what you are trying to say. I know that to add to the revelation of Christ is to add to the plagues in the book.

 

[crossnote]

God's Word is God's Word and tampering is tampering no matter which of the 66 books you refer to.

 

[rauleetoe]

New Gay Bible Prevents Homophobic Misinterpretation of Key Verses; Titled The Queen James Bible - SFGate

I lose no sleep over this 'translation' which is not a translation, it will fail and have very little of a following..God's word will not return void..i trust in God more than what a few men may seek to do with this 'translation' they are merely fools and one has to pray for the salvation of their souls and for them to repent of their sinfull ways..but i must say this to you,my only concern Dunty Molly from prior talks with you on chat is i sense an anti gay view that you seem to expouse or a response against gays that makes homosexual sin to be worse than whatever sin/struggles you, or any other christian deals with..one has to be very very carefull to not make homosexuality the worst sin ever..do you wonder why many gays refuse to deal with christians? Maybe its because it seems we think that we are better than them..no i am not saying make excuses for their lifestyle..i am not advocating licentiousness..i had someone on here yell at me and accuse me of licentiousness simply because i do not choose to be arrogant or rude like she did against gays..we deal with sin or at least struggle with the temptations to sin..and if we say we do not..we lie, the truth is not in us..and we are liars and the truth is not in us..Also if you cannot love your neighbor who you can see..how can you love God whom you cannot see.. Why must many who claim to be followers of Christ be afraid to even hug a gay person as if you were to 'contract' a disease..they're people..not lepers..
Come on people..yes.. they deal with sin, but you do too at least some of the time..hate the sin, love the sinner..not hate the sin and the sinner..
just had to say this..

 

[rauleetoe]

Now before i get accused of saying just love the gay person and not preach the gospel at the given opportunity..you must pray for the right times, for an open door..and i feel you will be much more successfull if you did not treat that person regardless if their are a glutton, a gay..a compulsive gambler as the unclean thing..remember Jesus came to save sinners..of which i am one, and you are one..we all have sinned and fell short, so before you fixate on this 'sin' and not on your pride because its far less visible than homosexual sin, or an overweight person who eats too much, or that prostitute working the corner all scantily clad..or that wino on the street sitting in his own urine clasping onto a bottle of liquor..look to Jesus's example..what did he do..he reprimanded the religious ones of his time and chose to love the unclean in society..im sure there were gays in his midst..so why can we not follow his example? lets not be hypocrites..lets be genuine..
They all need Jesus..but its the goodness of God that leads people to repentance..people do not really care about how much you know until they know how much you care..show that you are sincere in your walk..love them..love God..then maybe a door will open!
flat out reject them..avoid them as if they are dirtier than you, then all you got is cheap religion..which won't even help you..
k, im stepping off the soapbox..just getting tired of the hate and vitriol on this site against other christians and against the world..honestly..it gets old.

 

[Rock022]

If you come to think about this, have not most christians denominations separate themselves from one church or another because one or more different believes? I only see this as yet another christian denomination being created. Many bibles out there have omitted a word or two to abolish a believe. Change the Word to accommodate me, instead of me changing for the Word. This has been going on before and after Christ. This is not something new.

 

[rauleetoe]

If you come to think about this, have not most christians denominations separate themselves from one church or another because one or more different believes? I only see this as yet another christian denomination being created. Many bibles out there have omitted a word or two to abolish a believe. Change the Word to accommodate me, instead of me changing for the Word. This has been going on before and after Christ. This is not something new.

I am not saying change theology to suit those who do not wish to live for God or wish to advocate license to sin..but at the same time..we christians are not well known for loving others..we are known to be quite unloving..to the world and each other..
I do not think this queenjames will take off..i doubt a denomination will be formed out of it..even if..it will have little support..
i lose no sleep as others seem to have here..i will live my life the best i can before God, seek to grow more in him, seek to remain unspotted from the world, yet love the sinner..and seek to sow seeds every chance i get..this is what its about..sow seed..not look for another conspiracy to be an excuse to not love those in the world..remember, we too at one time were in a low point and Jesus met us in our broken state..what gives us the right to fixate only on gay sin/homosexual sin and not look at our own sin? to those who exalt this behavior as worse than all others..first remove the speck of religious pride out of your own eye than you can clearly love the sinner and show them Christ..otherwise, do not speak at all..you will only cause harm and not good.

 

[Rock022]

I am not saying change theology to suit those who do not wish to live for God or wish to advocate license to sin..but at the same time..we christians are not well known for loving others..we are known to be quite unloving..to the world and each other..
I do not think this queenjames will take off..i doubt a denomination will be formed out of it..even if..it will have little support..
i lose no sleep as others seem to have here..i will live my life the best i can before God, seek to grow more in him, seek to remain unspotted from the world, yet love the sinner..and seek to sow seeds every chance i get..this is what its about..sow seed..not look for another conspiracy to be an excuse to not love those in the world..remember, we too at one time were in a low point and Jesus met us in our broken state..what gives us the right to fixate only on gay sin/homosexual sin and not look at our own sin? to those who exalt this behavior as worse than all others..first remove the speck of religious pride out of your own eye than you can clearly love the sinner and show them Christ..otherwise, do not speak at all..you will only cause harm and not good.

This is true, however one translation removes or replaces a word, then another translation removes or replaces a word again. Follow this pattern and you do not have the word of God. This also causes division amongst christians. I can think of one in particular where some bibles have written "Full of Grace" and others "Highly Favored". Both translations have caused mayor divisions amongst us. Add yet another one comes in and distorts a law... Divide and conquer!

 

[rauleetoe]

This is true, however one translation removes or replaces a word, then another translation removes or replaces a word again. Follow this pattern and you do not have the word of God. This also causes division amongst christians. I can think of one in particular where some bibles have written "Full of Grace" and others "Highly Favored". Both translations have caused mayor divisions amongst us. Add yet another one comes in and distorts a law... Divide and conquer!

I doubt and disagree with you that bible translations are what have separated christian denominations..rather its the belief of some that their theological convictions and emphasis are superior to all others or they look down upon those who hold to a different emphasis and name call or make accusations out of ignorance..

that said, if you are saying that the KJV would keep the church together..you're wrong, not sure if you are saying this..sadly many who claim to be christians are proud and carnal and hold to their allegiances of men more than to God..some will appeal to 'good thelogy' or what they call orthodoxy..but what i say is this..
in essentials unity, in non essentials(non salvic issues) liberty

If you and i hold to the same basic non negotiables..then all else can be put to the wayside..and this kjvonlyism debate is surely a non salvic issue..The king james bible cannot save you, only Jesus can.

 

[Rock022]

if you are saying that the KJV would keep the church together

If you and i hold to the same basic non negotiables..then all else can be put to the wayside..and this kjvonlyism debate is surely a non salvic issue..The king james bible cannot save you, only Jesus can.

Having one translation can definitely help with understanding each other. Have you ever try and discuss a subject only to be told a certain translation has been twisted suite a certain believe? I see this being the case of this bible, where people will believe in this word and not see a more clear picture.

Christians today do not even agree on the non negotiables. Many claim they do not follow traditions of men, but always agree with a man in a pulpit. That to me has always been interesting, if they do not believe in some traditions why do they get together weekly? and never doubt the teachings of one person. I just can't reason this.

 

[rauleetoe]

Having one translation can definitely help with understanding each other. Have you ever try and discuss a subject only to be told a certain translation has been twisted suite a certain believe? I see this being the case of this bible, where people will believe in this word and not see a more clear picture.

Christians today do not even agree on the non negotiables. Many claim they do not follow traditions of men, but always agree with a man in a pulpit. That to me has always been interesting, if they do not believe in some traditions why do they get together weekly? and never doubt the teachings of one person. I just can't reason this.

huh..
if you are implying that the KJV would unite all churches, that is erroneous..for starters up until recently it was still the most widely used english bible translation..and we can see even back then those who used this same KJV not agreeing!
Do not believe me if you will..just go back in history.

As far as going to church weekly..what is wrong with this? Does it not say to forsake not the assembling of yourselves together as some have? Do you not agree with this?
hebrews 10:25(it should be in your KJV too as well) I know because i have one..
so whether says the assembling of yourselves, gather as a community,etc..it means the same thing.
As far as christians today not agreeing on the non negotiables..once again..disagree. Because if you think that going to church is an option and not needed, then we can not even further continue this talk because fellowship in the body is a non negotiable(please say you do agree, because if not..that is a problem)
the non negotiables are as follows
-Christ being the son of God
-the deity of Christ
-Christ dying,rising again in 3 days, and coming again for a church without spot or wrinkle
-the trinity/truineness of God..father,son,holy spirit
-the bible being God's word..(not the book of mormon,new world translation..etc)
-that salvation is by faith in Jesus..sola fide

other things like baptism/adult/baby dunking..how we worship(modern,pipe organ..acapella),church setting(house church,contemporary,traditional),soteriology(reform/arminian/molinism/middle of the ground..etc), bible version used,NIV,KJV,NLT,AMP,the message..etc.
these things are not salvic, they do not save you...so we can agree to disagree on these things.

but to say that the church as a whole does not agree on the basics..if you consider not going to church and being a kjvonlyis the basics..then sadly we're not on the same page regarding the basics.