New Gay Bible Prevents Homophobic Misinterpretation of Key Verses; Titled The Queen J

[David_1]

There are absolutely No Errors in the KJV. It is God's perfect and inerrant word.

I disagree that it is perfect.

For one it's a translation.

You want to get really fussy, then go back to the original languages the books of the bible were composed in.

Saying the KJV is the perfect one, sounds a little bit too White Anglo-Saxon orientated.

And besides, it's Elizabethan English....gah! You and I don't even speak Elizabethan English.

I like the NKJV better than KJV for reading.

 

[Matt37777]

I took at look at some of the verses they changed. It's not that big of a deal really it would seem. I'll post them below. What I mean by that is this. Say someone is gay. They get the book. That helps them to get saved. Then after they're saved they're eye's will be opened. They'll likely understand far better what they're doing wrong. And likely have a turn around in there life. Maybe they just become "A" sexual. Or obstain from that point on. Who knows. But at least they'll discover Jesus is the point. I've seen just as bad translations in other version. Like they did that getto version. They did the NIV which cut out a lot of key things. Like they got rid of anything to do with the word "blood". so I mean this one isn't that different in some respect. I don't agree with it, but it's not that much worse than the NIV or any other half baked translation would appear to be. But the main thing is, is if if helps them find God that's the main thing. Then gradually they might come to a realization of the overall situation. Again I don't agree with it, but not any more or less than I would the getto bible or any of the other half baked translations.

So here's some of the verse changes:

1. Genesis 19:5

KJV: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
QJV: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may rape and humiliate them. (Page 21)

2. Leviticus 18:22

KJV: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.
QJV: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind in the temple of Molech: it is an abomination. (Page 75)

3. Leviticus 20:13

KJV: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
QJV: If a man also lie with mankind in the temple of Molech, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Page 76)

4. Romans 1:26

KJV: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against their nature.
QJV: Their women did change their natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, left of the natural use of the woman, burned in ritual lust, one toward another. (Page 545)

5. Romans 1:27

KJV: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
QJV: Men with men working that which is pagan and unseemly. For this cause God gave the idolators up unto vile affections, receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (Page 545)

6. 1 Corinthians 6:9

KJV: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
QJV: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor morally weak, nor promiscuous. (Page 554)

7. 1 Corinthians 6:10

KJV: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
QJV: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. (Page 554)

8. 1 Timothy 1:10

KJV: For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
QJV: For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. (Page 575)

9. Jude 1:7

KJV: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
QJV: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after nonhuman flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Page 593)

 

[kenisyes]

The hair it splits is that it is implying that sex done between two people for love is fine. Sex is condemned by the Bible because it's not done between two people for love. That is what they are saying.

I certainly agree that if it gets people saved, it's worth the loss of a few verses, since they can always go back to the original, which they should do, and the Holy Spirit will convict them once they are saved. And most of our translations mess up a few verses at least, and we manage.

My only question is "will they go back to the original"? Not four or five posts above this is the unequivocal statement that the KJV is perfect and inerrant. Will some people not believe that about this translation also? I have seen people arguing that if it were important for salvation, God would have put it in the Bible. And we certainly do not agree as a people on what the Holy Spirit is saying in many things. Avoiding homosexual sex is important for salvation. They "cannot enter the kingdom of God". This translation has wiped that statement out.

 

[Matt37777]

I think if you wanna get into secondary doctrine I think the Catholics have a lot of issues. Like I mean they use the KJV and stuff, just as long as the congragation doesn't read it. They basically worship marry and the saints. They don't allow the congragation to take the wine only the bread. And the list goes on and on and on. So I mean these minor verse changes are DEFINITELY NOT GOOD, but lets face it, there is a lot worse out there. I mean the best is just someone who is as close to home as home can be. But again, the healthy don't need a dr but the sick. The sheep that follow close don't need help as much as the ones on the stray. So I say if this gets them involved in some way then so be it. And of course you'll get those types that use it just for show. Like no different than the united church and there nutty gay practices. And those types that just need someone to boost there ego are stupid either way. But there actually might be some that start out reading this, as they're struggling already with some self esteem issues most likely and then gradually learn the truth threw it. I don't think it's gonna lead anyone all that astray is what I'm saying. Again trust me, I THINK IT'S NOT GREAT, WAY OUT IN LEFT FEILD. but the catholics have that down to a science and we're okay with them so why not the this bible that makes my stomack turn.

 

[WolfInOxHide]

Amen! I'm just curious how they get around "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination." (Leviticus 18:22, KJV)

I bet they reason that you shouldn't pretend the other man is a woman. That would be an abomination to homosexuality. Doh!

I am reminded of those cartoon scenes where the head rattles in confusion to the sound of muffled bells.

 

[lost1972]

there will always be groups of people living in sin, who will create things like this to make themselves feel better, God isn't fooled

 

[zone]

No Zone. That is not an error in the KJV. There are absolutely No Errors in the KJV. It is God's perfect and inerrant word. You may want to take a look at this site. William Kinney does a fantastic job of showing why Jesus in Hebrews 4:8 is not an error. Below is the given link:

Heb 4:8 Jesus or Joshua? - Another King James Bible Believer

hi Chosen.
yes, i know this stuff.
that's serious error in KJV. it is NOT Jesus, it IS Joshua. if you just read it, and know about The Promised land, it would be simple.
but to each his own.

 

[AgeofKnowledge]

They are simply twisting scripture to justify their sin as per 2 Timothy 12-13:

"In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, 13 while evildoers and impostors will go from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived."

We are in the "last days" period of human history and this sort of blasphemous intention will increase until it finally culminates with the appearance of "the man of sin" and the false prophet.

http://christianchat.com/christian-family-forum/53342-my-sister-surrogate.html#post852989

 

[loveme1]

hi loveme
the Gospel went out to all the nations of the world.
the NT is written in Koine Greek for a reason.
by ordination of God, Messiah's Name would be taught also in it's Greek variant, and clearly was.

John 19
The Crucifixion
So they took Jesus, 17and he went out, bearing his own cross, to the place called The Place of a Skull, which in Aramaic is called Golgotha. 18There they crucified him, and with him two others, one on either side, and Jesus between them. 19Pilate also wrote an inscription and put it on the cross. It read, “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.” 20Many of the Jews read this inscription, for the place where Jesus was crucified was near the city, and it was written in Aramaic, in Latin, and in Greek. 21So the chief priests of the Jews said to Pilate, “Do not write, ‘The King of the Jews,’ but rather, ‘This man said, I am King of the Jews.’” 22Pilate answered, “What I have written I have written.”

and in every other nation the languages of the gentiles, they heard the Name of the Messiah (Acts 2)

Joshua in Spanish: José / Josué (no direct translation of names in Spanish)
Jesus in Spanish: Jesús (we know they pronounce J with an H)
in Greek: Iēsous

English is a known human language

i don't think there is a conspiracy to change the Name of Messiah
if anything, it might be coming from the 'sacred name' groups.
love zone

All is well zone, you pointed something out that i took the time to consider.

Our Heavenly Father works in wonderful ways indeed.

Time will reveal all things indeed.

 

[Cobus]

My King James says.... For if Jesus (Jesus: that is Joshua) had given them rest.... So MY King James are 100% correct. If I remember corretly it is not the only place this happens. Also Jesus or Yeshuah is a direvative from Joshua, Both meaning blessed if I remember right.

There are many places in the Bible where we have to go to God for explainations! I only use the King James on the LOGOS program, as well as the Old Afrikaans Translation, wich is VERY alike the old KJV. Up to date, I could not find ONE single place where the Word failed! Not even in Heb4:8 my friend, Zony!

The JESUS in this verse is VERY interesting.... Though Heb 4 talks about David Joshua and Jesus... The SABBATH REST, or the REST that Joshua were talking about Jesus ALSO referred too! It is the .... Come to me you who are heavy laden and I will give you REST! ONLY Jesus ccan give this REST! That is why either Joshua or Jesus can be used in that verse! BOT TALKED about a REST ONLE JESUS CAN GIVE!

 

[rauleetoe]

Just another counterfeit bible that Satan is using in an attempt to get rid of God's true, perfect, inerrant, and infallible word which is the King James Holy Bible.

Stick with the Old King James Bible. That old precious and blessed Book

actually not to rain on your parade but the KJV does have errors, and its a good copy..just like many other translations..not saying go chuck it out into the trash bin..go on read your KJV, but the english language has advanced..as well as the findings of manuscripts that are more accurate than those used in the KJV, i do believe your view on KJVonlism is quite erroneous..especially when half the english speaking world does not properly read elizabethian english..
like i said, the KJV is a good copy, but thats all..It did remain popular for almost 400 years though, but one has to remember, it was the 'authorized' version because it was authorized by the king..no other versions/revisions were allowed..and even if i was to be a Kjvonlist..id go back to the original 1611 and not a revision of it that most people read now a days..just saying..

 

[zone]

My King James says.... For if Jesus (Jesus: that is Joshua) had given them rest.... So MY King James are 100% correct. If I remember corretly it is not the only place this happens. Also Jesus or Yeshuah is a direvative from Joshua, Both meaning blessed if I remember right.

There are many places in the Bible where we have to go to God for explainations! I only use the King James on the LOGOS program, as well as the Old Afrikaans Translation, wich is VERY alike the old KJV. Up to date, I could not find ONE single place where the Word failed! Not even in Heb4:8 my friend, Zony!

The JESUS in this verse is VERY interesting.... Though Heb 4 talks about David Joshua and Jesus... The SABBATH REST, or the REST that Joshua were talking about Jesus ALSO referred too! It is the .... Come to me you who are heavy laden and I will give you REST! ONLY Jesus ccan give this REST! That is why either Joshua or Jesus can be used in that verse! BOT TALKED about a REST ONLE JESUS CAN GIVE!

hi Cobus.
it reads in the KJV Jesus.
it should read Joshua, as it is speaking of Joshua who led the people into the promised Land, okay?
we know Joshua and the Promised Land were both real, AND both types of Who was to come, the True Rest He brought, and where we are eventually going.

Hebrews 4:8 is an error. of course we can see how they made the mistake.
but if we read it as Christ Jesus, it undoes everything the writer is trying to say.
love zone.

 

[oldhermit]

This is a pretty clear statement that they know good and well scripture condemns homosexuality in the harshest possible terms.

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

English Standard Version (©2001)
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken of another day later on.

New American Standard Bible (©1995)
For if Joshua had given them rest, He would not have spoken of another day after that.

Holman Christian Standard Bible (©2009)
For if Joshua had given them rest, God would not have spoken later about another day.

International Standard Version (©2012)
For if Joshua had given them rest, he would not have spoken later about another day.

King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
For if Jesus had given them rest, then would he not afterward have spoken of another day.

ERROR IN KJV

the king james version is technically just as correct as the others in this case...

the key is that the king james version always transliterated names in the new testament directly from the greek text...including the names of old testament people regardless of how their names are spelled in the old testament...whereas the more modern translations of the new testament will standardize the names of old testament people to the old testament spelling...

that is why isaiah is 'esaias' in the king james version of the new testament...elijah is 'elias'...and so on...that is the way the greek text actually spells these names...differently from the old testament hebrew spelling...

in the case of the passage you brought up...the greek text actually does say 'jesus'...because that is how the name 'joshua' was written in greek... the king james version just leaves it the way it is written in the greek instead of standardizing it to the old testament spelling of 'joshua'

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

There are absolutely No Errors in the KJV. It is God's perfect and inerrant word.

unfortunately this is the kind of heretical gobbledygook that comes out of the 'king james only' movement nowdays...the movement has been hijacked by the ruckmanist cult...and continues to descend into more and more heretical teaching...

 

[RachelBibleStudent]

So here's some of the verse changes:

1. Genesis 19:5

KJV: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may know them.
QJV: And they called unto Lot, and said unto him, Where are the men which came in to thee this night? Bring them out unto us, that we may rape and humiliate them. (Page 21)

2. Leviticus 18:22

KJV: Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is an abomination.
QJV: Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind in the temple of Molech: it is an abomination. (Page 75)

3. Leviticus 20:13

KJV: If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
QJV: If a man also lie with mankind in the temple of Molech, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them. (Page 76)

4. Romans 1:26

KJV: For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against their nature.
QJV: Their women did change their natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, left of the natural use of the woman, burned in ritual lust, one toward another. (Page 545)

5. Romans 1:27

KJV: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
QJV: Men with men working that which is pagan and unseemly. For this cause God gave the idolators up unto vile affections, receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet. (Page 545)

6. 1 Corinthians 6:9

KJV: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
QJV: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor morally weak, nor promiscuous. (Page 554)

7. 1 Corinthians 6:10

KJV: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
QJV: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. (Page 554)

8. 1 Timothy 1:10

KJV: For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves with mankind, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine.
QJV: For whoremongers, for them that defile themselves, for menstealers, for liars, for perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that is contrary to sound doctrine. (Page 575)

9. Jude 1:7

KJV: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire.
QJV: Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after nonhuman flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. (Page 593)

i would -love- to seem them try to provide even the slightest textual evidence for any of these renderings...

 

[tyler4christ]

I think we should study the original Greek and Hebrew texts of the Bible before we personally claim that the King James Bible is without fault. It is IMPOSSIBLE to translate from the Hebrew and Greek languages 100% CORRECTLY into English. Hebrew and Greek are structured very differently are more "specific" languages than English. If you give biblical evidence that homosexuality is a sin (and support it with infallible evidence that your belief is synonymous with the original Greek and Hebrew scriptures), I'll believe it.

 

[nathan3]

The Muslims would riot over this. And Christians just grin and bare it. They have a web site and i know some , of the changed they made public anyway. It dose change some. But in the case of Sodom and Gomorrah it seems they could not get away with changing it as much as they wanted, so they opted to make it as vulgar as they could; it seems. The whole thing makes me mad. I would through it into the fire if i came across it.

 

[nathan3]

I think we should study the original Greek and Hebrew texts of the Bible before we personally claim that the King James Bible is without fault. It is IMPOSSIBLE to translate from the Hebrew and Greek languages 100% CORRECTLY into English. Hebrew and Greek are structured very differently are more "specific" languages than English. If you give biblical evidence that homosexuality is a sin (and support it with infallible evidence that your belief is synonymous with the original Greek and Hebrew scriptures), I'll believe it.

Nothing is impossible for Truth. Do you think that that was approved of ? The scriptures are clear. It is sin .

 

[resurrection33]

New Gay Bible Prevents Homophobic Misinterpretation of Key Verses; Titled The Queen James Bible - SFGate

Marriage is only allowed between a man and woman:

[6] But from the beginning of creation, `God made them male and female.'
[7] `For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
[8] and the two shall become one flesh.' So they are no longer two but one flesh. Mark 10:6-8 RSV