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Colossians 2:16 does say, Let no man judge you therefor in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or the the new moon, or of the sabbath days. i won't judge another person for what they eat, my meat is beans and rice, and veggies, and fruit. God did give us the perfect diet in Genesis 1:29, and that's the diet i choose.One day the lion will lay down with the lamb, and the wolf will eat straw like the ox, and i'm ready for it. Isaiah 11:6-9.
 
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Peter explains what his vision meant in Acts 10:28, i'm not judging any one for what they choose to eat, i'm just saying don't say the bible says things it doesn't mean. People have been twisting the Peter vision, to mean what they want it to and it's a lie. God never meant for Peter to slay and eat, He wanted Peter to quit calling gentiles common, and unclean. God wanted Peter go share Christ Jesus with the gentiles.
 
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We are told that after Noah, we are allowed red meat. And when God asked us not to eat meat from animals whose diet consisted of refuse, it wasn't done to maintain our body health only. That was a bi-product. It was to teach us the meaning of the words clean and unclean. The physical was often used to explain the spiritual.

If you want to go into health only, you will find that when the agriculture industry added different ways of taking care of and feeding animals, it changed the make up of the meat. Animals who are fed naturally without the modern improvements are not detrimental to our health. People pay a premium for meat produced like this, even though it is tougher than prime beef. I buy eggs that are fed vegetable diets, I can't afford the "free range" eggs. I live in cattle country, but the farmers who sell this natural beef ask so much for it I can't afford it. Poultry that is from regularly grown chickens is way over my budget.
Yes, I agree with you.

If you have read my comments about this in other threads, you would see that I do not believe it sin to eat or not eat and I understand that it has nothing to do with a physical health issue. Surely we know that regardless of how we peak this body's health, God is going to have to give us a new body.

I have only ever said that the letter of the Old Law served it's purpose and was taken out of the way so that the wall of enmity would be gone. And that is what I spoke of Paul referencing as fighting against God when we rebuild that wall of enmity. I wrote a post dedicated to that thought in another thread a while back.

I understand that ANIOHEVTORAH says I have offended him, but I don't believe him. The very reason I began letting him know that I do not eat those things anyway due to personal health issues is that in a previous thread he was calling us all unclean and speaking how we were so disobedient to God. So we have here a case of the pot calling the kettle black. And all they are really doing is trying to maneuver the onlookers against me so that enough of you will join in with him and get me banned. That is because he resents that I see through what he speaks and so wants to get rid of me as his solution rather than reasoning on the true matter that he has been in effect rebuilding that wall of enmity which Christ tore down.

I chose not to respond any further to him because, whether he has others fooled or not, I see right through what he is doing. Been there and had to deal with it too many times. So I just pray for him. I don't hate. I don't fear him. And I am never unwilling to speak to him accept when it is fruitless to do so. He is not at all an unintelligent man and I gain much from our exchanges. But there is nothing to be gained by discussing his feigned hurt feelings. He is a mature man and far beyond that sort of thing but for when he needs it to use the backdoor approach to get rid of opposition.

Be wise and see these things.
 
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To keep it short and simple: Amen.
 
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livingepistle

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Kosher delicacy meaning locust roast alive and covered with honey? :confused:

Given that choice, I might prefer the rocky mountain oysters.
Well, do you know what "Mountain Oysters" are?
 
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livingepistle

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I would agree with you on the point that we are better off being vegetarians, same food Adam and Eve ate :) they seemed to make it on that, and that alone
Brother you bring a question to mind: "What do you think they were doing with the lambs Abel was raising?" I never considered this until now.
 
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Those are the three meats which I really enjoy! :eek:
 
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Come on y'all. You never had a chocolate covered ant or bumble bee. I don't care for the bee, but the ants are spicy. My jack Russell ( Rocky) loves ants too. Raw Conch is good also. Fried frog legs, taste like greasy chicken. When i was in Egypt I had Bull eggs from the legs. They were good until I found out what the were. So when I'm traveling, I don't ask, I just eat. Not boasting, But I have traveled to many countries and I just eat what the bring me, if it taste okay.
 
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Poison is not a product excreted via sweat. Sweat is mostly water and it is designed to cool us off, not the elimination of "poison". Sweat is mostly water (99%) and salt, urea, uric acid, vitamin C, ammonia and lactic acid. Many other animals do not sweat also like dogs, cats, most rodents, birds, elephants, rhinos, hippos, ferrets (well they do sweat a tiny bit), deer, antelope, gazelles, reptiles, amphibians, fish and insects.

This means deer, birds and locusts , which are kosher, do not sweat. Think about that one for a bit.
For people that argue this point constantly, or should I say, just throw stuff out there apparently to make themselves feel Ok about doing whatever it is they want to do, I suggest you study up on unclean meats to see what health aspects are involved. It's just like arguing doctrinal points based on scriptures taken out of context. Many of these animals you listed are unclean, some aren't, and frankly, there's issues involved in each type that you have to research in order to understand what the differences are and why. Because hey, there are reasons! Do you actually think God told the Israelites not to eat unclean meats because He was bored or just wanted to make up more rules? I hardly think so! I think it's really odd how people get so defensive when others say they think we still shouldn't eat unclean meats. Why do you feel so threatened by this? Eat what you want, no one's stopping you.
 
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livingepistle

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Come on y'all. You never had a chocolate covered ant or bumble bee. I don't care for the bee, but the ants are spicy. My jack Russell ( Rocky) loves ants too. Raw Conch is good also. Fried frog legs, taste like greasy chicken. When i was in Egypt I had Bull eggs from the legs. They were good until I found out what the were. So when I'm traveling, I don't ask, I just eat. Not boasting, But I have traveled to many countries and I just eat what the bring me, if it taste okay.
"Oh ye of Great Faith" :D LOL, travel on brother, travel on! :cool:
 
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Christabel

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We are told that after Noah, we are allowed red meat. And when God asked us not to eat meat from animals whose diet consisted of refuse, it wasn't done to maintain our body health only. That was a bi-product. It was to teach us the meaning of the words clean and unclean. The physical was often used to explain the spiritual.

If you want to go into health only, you will find that when the agriculture industry added different ways of taking care of and feeding animals, it changed the make up of the meat. Animals who are fed naturally without the modern improvements are not detrimental to our health. People pay a premium for meat produced like this, even though it is tougher than prime beef. I buy eggs that are fed vegetable diets, I can't afford the "free range" eggs. I live in cattle country, but the farmers who sell this natural beef ask so much for it I can't afford it. Poultry that is from regularly grown chickens is way over my budget.
My issue with the "free range" eggs is this. I think it should be illegal for farmers to keep their laying chickens in tiny cages where they can't even turn around. I'm personally kind of poor and I don't find "free range" eggs that hard to afford. I think it's well worth it when I see pictures of how these factory farms raise these chickens. I realize the free range chickens themselves, when butchered, are also more expensive, but not that much. I find if I cut out all the junk food, I can afford more expensive chicken. There's no comparison in taste between a chicken raised in a cage stuffed full of antibiotics, and a chicken that is fed natural stuff and allowed to run free. The same holds true with beef. Maybe where you live these types of meat and poultry are much more expensive though than where I live. Honestly. (Not being facetious).
 
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Do you like goose or duck liver. Known as foie gras. You should see what they do to those creatures.
 
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quinoa is a good protein.
 
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In this "Halal" infested world, one of the advantages for those that eat pork, is a guarantee that it is meat is from an animal that has not been made to suffer while being sacrificed to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca to shouts of "Allah Akbar".

Click on this YouTube search - halal cruel suffer

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Brother you bring a question to mind: "What do you think they were doing with the lambs Abel was raising?" I never considered this until now.
When we are truly submitting to Christ our Lamb, and we know in our conscience that we are truly submitting to him, this provides us a sense that our nakedness is being covered so that we may have be able to answer from a clean conscience before God.

The opposite of this is, Revelation 3:17 "Because thou sayest, I am rich, and increased with goods, and have need of nothing; and knowest not that thou art wretched, and miserable, and poor, and blind, and naked.."

Now, we know this is only an imputed covering which secures us while we grow to fully and truly put back on the righteousness of God after the image of Christ, for, 2 Corinthians 5:2-2 "For in this we groan, earnestly desiring to be clothed upon with our house which is from heaven: If so be that being clothed we shall not be found naked."

Now that we live in a world wherein sin has entered to strip us naked of God's righteousness, the sheep Abel raised were a symbol of God's love in Christ which as those sheep's wool, sheared and used to cloth us, provides a temporary covering covering for our nakedness in this time of need. Adam and Eve did not need such covering before sin was born into the world as they had God's righteousness clothing them.

It cannot be true that Abel's flock of sheep served as meat for them to eat, but only to provide them with temporary clothing.

For, there would be no point in God's telling Noah what he did at Genesis 9:2-4

2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are [that "every beast", that "every fowl, and that "all that moveth upon the earth"] they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things.
4 But flesh with the life thereof, which is the blood thereof, shall ye not eat.

And by God's saying, "even as the green herb have I given you all things", it is clear that they were not previously given to them for food, else God would have reissued permission for them to eat the green herb at the same time.

There was no need for God to reissue permission to them to eat of all the green herb as they already knew that was theirs to eat. Therefore, it is quite clear that Abel's flock of sheep were for their wool as a temporary covering for their new found nakedness and not for food.

It is also clear that the clean and unclean animals entering the Ark where described as clean or unclean based upon the degree of hardship in cleaning up after them in the ark, so that it would not be a fight to keep the Ark clean and habitable during the time they would depend on it as their temporary home.
 
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That helps us to see better what the clean and unclean animals pictured under the Old Law Covenant as to how we must keep that Ark of God's grace (Jesus Christ's spiritual body) spiritually clean if we dwell there.
 
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And you know and can check it out on the web that red meat is even worse for our health.


I remember reading or hearing some years ago that Lion meat would be the healthiest meat we could eat, but the cost of getting in to the American diet (convincing Americans to try it, having enough to keep on the shelves until the demand increased, would be so high no one would be able to buy it.

Saddest of all, I'm allergic to shell fish. Came upon me 4 years ago. I've eaten it all my life and one night...swelled up, couldn't breath, shaking and red all over. Scary.

I miss scallops....
 
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In this "Halal" infested world, one of the advantages for those that eat pork, is a guarantee that it is meat is from an animal that has not been made to suffer while being sacrificed to the Quraish pagan's black stone idol in Mecca to shouts of "Allah Akbar".

Click on this YouTube search - halal cruel suffer

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