PreTrib Rapture Moment 5: What Does Catholicism Teach? - Teaching by Bryan Denlinger
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No Peter, again, you are wrong. You need to go and listen to some of his sermons which he preached on the Biblical Doctrine of the Pre-trib Rapture. At least take the time to study and listen to some of his sermons.
He that answereth a matter before he heareth it , it is folly and shame unto him.
- Proverbs 18:13 (King James Bible)
I had previously only watched a min or so of this 'cowboy's' video and thought it was well of the beam, but I gave into temptation and watched the whole 13 min 21 sec and what an absolute waste of time, but I can now firmly say that it is all a complete load of **** (please feel free to fill in your own noun here)!
So he predicates it's on a temple that John never said was a rebuilt temple? He does not mention that the second had been destroyed already. (Nor does any other book in the New Testament say that another temple will be built) So how can one say that John was not writing about the second temple if John himself never says that it is a rebuilt third temple?
Well if that's all you can say after watching the video, then it is clear that you have a hard time with the truth. You simply cannot handle Sound Bible Teaching. You just cannot handle the truth.
Bryan Denlinger clearly shows that the Catholic Teaching on the rapture lines up exactly with warped mindset of the modern day Post Trib Rapture thieves.
There will be a Pre-trib Rapture. But not a post trib rapture. The post trib rapture is just some theory that is not supported by Scripture.
But the pre-trib Rapture is taught in the Holy Bible.
1) He is simply a sectarian bigot! 1Cor 3v1-8
2) There just ain't...period! 2Thess 2v1-3,8 states: 'Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God...And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.'
The Day of the Lord CANNOT come UNLESS Antichrist (the man of sin, the son of perdition) is first revealed and sits in the temple of God (in Jerusalem) during the great tribulation (which is the period of 'the falling away'). Dan 9v27, 11v31, 12v1-3,11, Matt 13v36-43, 24v12,15-21, 1Cor 15v50-55, 1Thess 4v13-18, 2Thess 1v7-10, Rev 7v14, 11v1,2,15-19
Also note, the day that the Lord Jesus comes to bring His people home (via resurrection and rapture) is the same day that he destroys Antichrist and the wicked, NOT separated by by three and a half years!
Paul was only a few weeks at Thessalonica and so his converts were immature spiritual babes when he gave them the
teaching on the 2nd Coming of Christ and the events surrounding it, so here he again repeats in a nice simple way that truth so that they would fully understand it and hopefully you might to, young fellow!
Do make sure you don't fall into the category described in 2Tim 4v3,4, get ready NOW for the Great Tribulation by getting close to the Lord Jesus and filling your mind with truth, for it is the correct interpretation of prophetic truth that will give you light during the dark evil days of the Great Tribulation! 2Peter 1v19
Yahweh Shalom
2) There just ain't...period! 2Thess 2v1-3,8 states: 'Now, brethren, concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together to Him, we ask you, not to be soon shaken in mind or troubled, either by spirit or by word or by letter, as if from us, as though the day of Christ had come. Let no one deceive you by any means; for that Day will not come unless the falling away comes first, and the man of sin is revealed, the son of perdition, who opposes and exalts himself above all that is called God or that is worshiped, so that he sits as God in the temple of God, showing himself that he is God...And then the lawless one will be revealed, whom the Lord will consume with the breath of His mouth and destroy with the brightness of His coming.'
The Day of the Lord CANNOT come UNLESS Antichrist (the man of sin, the son of perdition) is first revealed and sits in the temple of God (in Jerusalem) during the great tribulation (which is the period of 'the falling away'). Dan 9v27, 11v31, 12v1-3,11, Matt 13v36-43, 24v12,15-21, 1Cor 15v50-55, 1Thess 4v13-18, 2Thess 1v7-10, Rev 7v14, 11v1,2,15-19
Also note, the day that the Lord Jesus comes to bring His people home (via resurrection and rapture) is the same day that he destroys Antichrist and the wicked, NOT separated by by three and a half years!
Paul was only a few weeks at Thessalonica and so his converts were immature spiritual babes when he gave them the
teaching on the 2nd Coming of Christ and the events surrounding it, so here he again repeats in a nice simple way that truth so that they would fully understand it and hopefully you might to, young fellow!
Do make sure you don't fall into the category described in 2Tim 4v3,4, get ready NOW for the Great Tribulation by getting close to the Lord Jesus and filling your mind with truth, for it is the correct interpretation of prophetic truth that will give you light during the dark evil days of the Great Tribulation! 2Peter 1v19
Yahweh Shalom
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Seriously. What does this mean? Because I (we) don't share your common belief, does that mean we're definitely wrong? What if we're right and you're wrong? Are you that far gone where you won't even consider any other possibility but your own?
I have changed my viewpoint three times already. The reason I changed so many times, I was willing to hear people out. I don't disagree with you because it doesn't meet my beliefs, it's because it doesn't fit the Word of God. I want to understand what it is you're saying, whether it be right or wrong, compare it to the Word and see if it is within correct context and makes sense. If it does, great. If not...well, you get the idea.
This subject doesn't make sense to me. If it did, then everything else I've studied is wrong based on this one passage. Everything else I studied made sense and you want me to discard all of that based on this one chapter? Really? Personal note. That would be stupid. The more reasonable approach is to find out more about that chapter than to rewrite my study.
I have changed my viewpoint three times already. The reason I changed so many times, I was willing to hear people out. I don't disagree with you because it doesn't meet my beliefs, it's because it doesn't fit the Word of God. I want to understand what it is you're saying, whether it be right or wrong, compare it to the Word and see if it is within correct context and makes sense. If it does, great. If not...well, you get the idea.
This subject doesn't make sense to me. If it did, then everything else I've studied is wrong based on this one passage. Everything else I studied made sense and you want me to discard all of that based on this one chapter? Really? Personal note. That would be stupid. The more reasonable approach is to find out more about that chapter than to rewrite my study.
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No, you don't have to share my belief. You have to submit to the Good Old Book. The King James Authorized Version. And you are to rightly divide it.
I am right about the issue of the rapture because I submit to the Biblical teaching of it. And if you will submit to what the Holy Bible teaches in regard to the rapture, then you too will be right.
I have had to be corrected many times in the past Bistabuster, I have been wrong many times, but once I learn of a Biblical Truth and have been assured of it. I defend it and I do not back down from defending and proclaiming it.
I am always willing to be correctable but once I learn of a Biblical Truth in the Scriptures and am assured of that Biblical truth. Then I do not change my position at all because I know that it is the truth. And once you learn and have been assured of the truth, you do not back down from the truth. And you do not change your position on the truth. You stand by it.
I am also willing to hear people out, I also have had to change some of my positions and viewpoints in the past. You see Bistabuster, I take time to hear the matter. Unlike a lot of people who just won't do that.
Well what I am going to encourage you to do Bistabuster, is to simply compare Scripture with Scripture. Study about the Millennial Kingdom. Study about what it will be like. Revelation 20 is not the only passage of Scripture on the Millennial Kingdom.
I like what John Walvoord said in regard to the Millennial Kingdom, and I quote him:
"In its simple definition, the millennium is the reign of Christ for one thousand years on the earth following His second coming. As such it is the consummating dispensation of human history on earth. Though millennial truth is essentially eschatological, it is integral to the entire volume of Scripture and its proper understanding is an important essential to theology as a whole. Millennialism cannot therefore be brushed aside as a dispute on the interpretation of Revelation 20, but is rather the product of a system of Biblical interpretation established as the positive teaching of both Testaments. It constitutes a refutation of both amillennialism and postmillennialism." - John Walvoord
And here are some other Scriptures that you can study in regard to the Millennial Kingdom:
Isaiah 24:21-23, Zechariah 8:3-9, Ezekiel 44, and Zephaniah 3:13-18.
I am right about the issue of the rapture because I submit to the Biblical teaching of it. And if you will submit to what the Holy Bible teaches in regard to the rapture, then you too will be right.
I have had to be corrected many times in the past Bistabuster, I have been wrong many times, but once I learn of a Biblical Truth and have been assured of it. I defend it and I do not back down from defending and proclaiming it.
I am always willing to be correctable but once I learn of a Biblical Truth in the Scriptures and am assured of that Biblical truth. Then I do not change my position at all because I know that it is the truth. And once you learn and have been assured of the truth, you do not back down from the truth. And you do not change your position on the truth. You stand by it.
I am also willing to hear people out, I also have had to change some of my positions and viewpoints in the past. You see Bistabuster, I take time to hear the matter. Unlike a lot of people who just won't do that.
Well what I am going to encourage you to do Bistabuster, is to simply compare Scripture with Scripture. Study about the Millennial Kingdom. Study about what it will be like. Revelation 20 is not the only passage of Scripture on the Millennial Kingdom.
I like what John Walvoord said in regard to the Millennial Kingdom, and I quote him:
"In its simple definition, the millennium is the reign of Christ for one thousand years on the earth following His second coming. As such it is the consummating dispensation of human history on earth. Though millennial truth is essentially eschatological, it is integral to the entire volume of Scripture and its proper understanding is an important essential to theology as a whole. Millennialism cannot therefore be brushed aside as a dispute on the interpretation of Revelation 20, but is rather the product of a system of Biblical interpretation established as the positive teaching of both Testaments. It constitutes a refutation of both amillennialism and postmillennialism." - John Walvoord
And here are some other Scriptures that you can study in regard to the Millennial Kingdom:
Isaiah 24:21-23, Zechariah 8:3-9, Ezekiel 44, and Zephaniah 3:13-18.
that's a lot of talk.
here's the hard truth Chosen:
pretribulation rapture (all dispensationalism) says God failed to fulfill the promises he made to Abraham AND CHRIST.
and it claims He failed repeatedly. God making it up as He went along - in spite of prophesies recorded 1000 years before Jesus arrived.
look at this awful theology:
israel didn't become a great nation in egypt.
they never possessed the land exactly as God promised.
through Jesus all the nations of the earth were not blessed, since israel herself was set aside.
....
is that what Christianity is really about?
did it ever really teach that?
Galatians 3:16
Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, “And to offsprings,” referring to many, but referring to one, “And to your offspring,” who is Christ.
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Yes they do. But they don't say when. I could put them anywhere I want to. So can you. They are not specific enough to stand alone and tell you where they are placed. The ONLY verses that are specific is what I have already told you. Your clouds and your trumpet and meeting Him in the air are all there in that one passage and it tells you when. It's very clear and you are not seeing it. There is nothing that is that plain as day that say all three of those things mentioned all together in one passage that says it will happen before the tribulation. You continuously fail to show that point and dance around it avoiding answering it. When we do show you proof positive hard core Bible passages that say after the tribulation, you ignore it. I'm going out on a limb here. I don't think you want to know the truth. Seriously. You're too fixated on your beliefs. With that said, I don't think anybody can help you. I'm sorry to hear that. It is what is is.
That is merely a metaphorical picture of Christ's gathering all of the firstfruits of his body to himself so that they become the authority operating in the air, replacing the (Ephesians 2:2) "prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience" who have been up to that time relying on that spirit in the air to govern themselves.
At that time that spirit in the air will be abyssed and no longer permitted to operate in the sons of disobedience, that son of perdition, man of sin, which interferes with the world receiving the full light of God at present.
Freed from that influence the remaining harvest will not have that spirit to blame for their unwillingness to conform to Christ. So at the end when that spirit is let loose from the abyss, it will be clear that they choose it of their own will and desire rather than by having been deceived.
Thus all the angels and all who God allows to remain living will have no doubt that God's final judgment upon those ones was just.
At that time that spirit in the air will be abyssed and no longer permitted to operate in the sons of disobedience, that son of perdition, man of sin, which interferes with the world receiving the full light of God at present.
Freed from that influence the remaining harvest will not have that spirit to blame for their unwillingness to conform to Christ. So at the end when that spirit is let loose from the abyss, it will be clear that they choose it of their own will and desire rather than by having been deceived.
Thus all the angels and all who God allows to remain living will have no doubt that God's final judgment upon those ones was just.
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No he is not.
He is a Bible believer who rightly divides the word of truth.
And yes, there will be a Pre-tribulation Rapture. What Paul was referring to when he stated "for that day shall not come except there come a falling away first," he was referring to the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. Not the Rapture. But the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ. Those two events are not the same. You need to rightly divide the word of truth.
The Body of Christ has to be taken off the earth before the Antichrist is to be on the earth. The Body of Christ cannot be on the earth at the same time that the antichrist is be on the earth. It is not possible.
For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. - 2 Thessalonians 2:7 (King James Bible)
So again, the Body of Christ must be removed from off of the earth before the Antichrist is to be revealed.
Again JB, the Day of the Lord is not the Rapture. But it is the Second Coming of Jesus Christ. You need to start rightly dividing the truth.
The Christians will be removed from off the earth prior to the Antichrist coming on the scene.
No JB, it is not the same day. The Rapture happens first. Then the time of Jacob's trouble begins. Once the Rapture of the Body of Christ takes place, then that is when the time of Jacob's trouble will begin.
There is asbolutely no Rapture mentioned in Revelation 19 or Revelation 20. Rev. 19 & 20 talk about the Second Coming of Jesus Christ and also His 1,000 year Physical Reign on this Earth. But again, no where in those two chapters of Revelation is the Rapture mentioned.
Now, the Rapture is mentioned mainly in 1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 and 1 Corinthians 15:51-55. That is why the Rapture is indeed a Pre-trib Rapture and NOT A POST Trib. Rapture.
The Rapture is a mystery. And Paul describes it as such when he first mentions it in 1 Corinthians 15:51-54.
The Saints at Thessalonica thought they had missed the Rapture. Therefore, they thought that the Day of The Lord/ The Day of Christ (Second Coming) was at hand.
Therefore Paul was teaching them once again about the events that would be taking place, and that would be leading up to the Second Coming of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Again JB, the Body of Christ will not be going through the time of Jacob's trouble. The time of Jacob's trouble is to bring Israel into correction (See Jeremiah 30). It is not for the Church.
After all, it IS NOT called the Church's trouble, it is called the time of Jacob's trouble.
We are not appointed to God's wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ ( 1 Thessalonians 5:9)
Again, you need to start rightly dividing the word of truth.
I won't be going through the Great Tribulation. I will be with my Lord Jesus Christ in the air, in the clouds. Therefore I am not getting ready for the Tribulation. But rather, I am getting ready for the Rapture. Which is known as the Pre-tribulation Rapture.
I am looking for that blessed hope. And I am looking for the Glorious Appearing of my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, Which will take place BEFORE the Tribulation starts. As Christians, we need to get ready to meet the Lord in the air, and we need to get ready for the Judgment Seat of Christ.
I am not looking for the antichrist.
But rather, I am looking for my Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.
And JB, if you are truly saved and born again, then whether you like it or not, you also will not be going through the time of the Great Tribulation. You will not be going through the time of Jacob's trouble.
But you will be present at the Rapture. Which again, takes place BEFORE the time of Jacob's trouble. So, if you are saved, then I suggest you start getting ready to meet the Lord Jesus Christ in the air.
Start looking for the Lord Jesus Christ.
And STOP looking for the antichrist.