Question about creation.

[Enow]

If god is "all-powerful" then why did it take him 7 days to create everything and why did he have to "rest".

Shouldn't he have been able to do it in 1 day and not rest?

Or is this all a metaphor so there's no possible way to know what it means for sure...

Mayhap because He foreknew liars would try to make the evolution theory believable by thinking there was some age gap in this act of creation. By signifying an evening and morning each day, for the six days of creation, that proves there was no age gap and thus the evolution theory is false.

All cultures testify to the seven day week in creation as handed down through the centuries. There is no five day weel or a six day week, but seven all throughout the world.

Sometimes that which is right in front of us testifies to the truth of the Bible, but even then, some prefer to be blind to that so as to excuse themselves from seeking God in getting to knwo Him at all.

 

[Ariel82]

If God was created,

and with that statement you open pandora's box of false "what ifs."

However, God doesn't tell us to engage in endless "what if" games but to learn His Truth and teach people the Reality of His eternal love, mercy and grace and why they even need to repent and be forgiven in the first place. God calls us not to be friends to the world but to call out for people to turn from their sins and to HIM with humble and contrite hearts.

[h=3]2 Timothy 2:15-16[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]15 [/SUP]Be diligent to present yourself approved to God, a worker who does not need to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. [SUP]16 [/SUP]But shun profane and idle babblings, for they will increase to more ungodliness.

 

[Ariel82]

Each "day" of creation was six thousand years and we are living in the seventh day of rest. Gen. 2:4-the generations of the heavens and of the earth. Man was created in the year 4004 b.c. and there is no year 0 so in the spring it will be the year 6018

<face palm>

with that I"m going to take the kids to karate and read my Bible....will keep you all in my prayers.

May God's wisdom and light shine forth and His love flow forth like living waters from the hearts of His people.

 

[crossnote]

and with that statement you open pandora's box of false "what ifs."

However, God doesn't tell us to engage in endless "what if" games but to learn His Truth and teach people the Reality of His eternal love, mercy and grace and why they even need to repent and be forgiven in the first place. God calls us not to be friends to the world but to call out for people to turn from their sins and to HIM with humble and contrite hearts.

nothing wrong with having a questioner face their own questions. Jesus often used that method.

 

[DarkVoid]

no, as evident by the world that is trying to live without God. "we" are not smart enough to understand what the Sabbath truly means.

I meant smart enough to know that we have to "rest" when we get tired -.-

what a cop out.

you are totally choosing to take no responsibility for your thoughts or your actions by claiming to "just be" the way you are.

"wish there was a way for me to be sure of something :/"

I'm sure there are quite a few things that you are "sure" of.

for example, if you are cut do you feel pain? If you stop breathing will you die?

to say that "i don't trust anything" is lying to yourself

its not very surprising though.

1 Corinthians 2:12-14

New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy[SUP][a][/SUP] Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

I have no more control over who i am than what color hair i was born with.

i have at least partial control over what i DO/THINK but not what/who i AM. there's a difference.

as i always say: in an existance with beings who are so much more powerful than us how can you be sure even your thoughts are your own? (and thoughts power actions)


and i meant i'm not sure of anything/don't trust anything about the afterlife, god, or spirituality... (that was implied)

but i also don't trust people lol

i'm not even sure of my own beliefs...they are just beliefs after all.

 

[DarkVoid]

Let me ask you. If there was truly a God,what would it take for you to trust Him/Her/It?

A good question!

and one i do not know the answer to...

I'm searching in case i might discover something that will enable me (if anything will) to trust in something about the afterlife/god for sure. (if there is any afterlife/god)

 

[DarkVoid]

Mayhap because He foreknew liars would try to make the evolution theory believable by thinking there was some age gap in this act of creation. By signifying an evening and morning each day, for the six days of creation, that proves there was no age gap and thus the evolution theory is false.

All cultures testify to the seven day week in creation as handed down through the centuries. There is no five day weel or a six day week, but seven all throughout the world.

Sometimes that which is right in front of us testifies to the truth of the Bible, but even then, some prefer to be blind to that so as to excuse themselves from seeking God in getting to knwo Him at all.

Well a god could have created the bacterium (or watever) that evolved into us.

so evolution does not disprove a god. but it may disprove the god of the bible...

 

[nathan3]

If god is "all-powerful" then why did it take him 7 days to create everything and why did he have to "rest".

Shouldn't he have been able to do it in 1 day and not rest?

Or is this all a metaphor so there's no possible way to know what it means for sure...

The rest was to teach us that we should rest if im not mistaken, but there is more to the rest" teaching.

It acutally does'nt say how long it took God to create the "earth". Read Gen 1:1 ; it says, " in the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. It says that it was, in the beginning . But it does Not say when the beginning was.

Then the 6 days is a rejuvination of the earth, because in the Hebrew manuscripts, verse two says that everything on the earth was destroyed .

For more info of that destruction, read Jeremiah chapter 4: 21-27 .

 

[Tintin]

Nathan, it's interesting that you came to that conclusion. Jeremiah 4:21-27 is prophesying about doom coming to the nation of Judah, not about destroying the earth and needing to create another. Also, I find it difficult to believe that every English translation has somehow incorrectly translated Genesis 1:2 from the Hebrew.

 

[nathan3]

Nathan, it's interesting that you came to that conclusion. Jeremiah 4:21-27 is prophesying about doom coming to the nation of Judah, not about destroying the earth and needing to create another. Also, I find it difficult to believe that every English translation has somehow incorrectly translated Genesis 1:2 from the Hebrew.

You mis quoted me. You said that the earth was destoryed I did not say that it was, I said everything on it was,. and yes, read the Hebrew, they all have incorectly translated it, believe it or not, there are few good Hebrew scholars out there doing these new translations of the bible.

 

[Professor]

Hey Dark Void,
I think I was in the same place you are in now. I have a Ph.D. in philosophy. I was bogged down in arguments. I saw contradictions, nothing seemed to make sense. I could not bring myself to have faith or trust. I became pretty viciously atheistic actually. Then literally out of nowhere, I had a spiritual battle with a demon. God rescued me and then He was immediately present to me and bathed me in His love. I cannot explain this by any logic, reason, or arguments. I had a true conversion experience. Without it, I still might be this vicious atheist. Now I know 100% that God exists, that Jesus is the Son of God, and that He died for my sins. I have absolutely no doubt about it. My philosophy students are pretty blown away when they remember my old self and what I have now become. Pretty awesome stuff.

A good question!

and one i do not know the answer to...

I'm searching in case i might discover something that will enable me (if anything will) to trust in something about the afterlife/god for sure. (if there is any afterlife/god)

 

[susanblange]

Before there was the Lord, there was God. God is energy, it cannot be created or destroyed, it can only change form. It is also present everywhere in the universe at the same time and is omnipotent. It includes the forces in the universe, electromagnetism, gravitation, and the nuclear force.

 

[susanblange]

Not only is the week universal, so is the year-2013 (common era) The week came from creation and the year came from Jesus. TheGod of the bible created the heavens and the earth and it's been a long time since God has manifested himself on the earth. When the God of Israel comes to the earth and we ourselves witness the bible being fulfilled, we'll know the God of the bible is God and the scriptures are true.

 

[susanblange]

Blessed is the man who makes the Lord his trust. God knows what he's doing and everything from beginning to end has been foreseen and is recorded in the bible. The bible is a history God (messiah), the world and Israel. It has always been God's intent to physically live on earth which is why the temple was built.

 

[Enow]

Well a god could have created the bacterium (or watever) that evolved into us.

so evolution does not disprove a god. but it may disprove the god of the bible...

Well, you had asked why the Bible was written the way it was testifying of God and so that alone disproves the evolution theory because God cannot call anything good if it was still in the process of being something else.

Also, the words of Jesus validates the creation account by referring to the first marriage.

Try this: ask God for the answer and expect one regarding the Son as being God or not because God the Father is in the business of revealing the Son to those that seek to learn of Him in the scriptures.

Matthew 11:[SUP]26 [/SUP]Even so, Father: for so it seemed good in thy sight. [SUP]27 [/SUP]All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father; neither knoweth any man the Father, save the Son, and he to whomsoever the Son will reveal him. [SUP]28 [/SUP]Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest. [SUP]29 [/SUP]Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart: and ye shall find rest unto your souls. [SUP]30 [/SUP]For my yoke is easy, and my burden is light.

John 5:[SUP]39 [/SUP]Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me. [SUP]40 [/SUP]And ye will not come to me, that ye might have life.

In regards to your signature...you can get out of running in circles by the Son setting you free as His disciples.

John 8:[SUP]31 [/SUP]Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; [SUP]32 [/SUP]And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free....[SUP]36 [/SUP]If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed

 

[Elizabeth619]

Everyone keep in mind that we do not know DarkVoid personally. We don't know his mind. We don't know his troubles, stresses, home life or history.

Just like there's a reason we believe in God there's a reason he does not. There's a reason he is distrustful. Don't be so hard on him when you don't know where he is coming from.

 

[nathan3]

To Tintin ::::::: Correction, i meant to say, " all incorrectly translation, verse 2" . not everything.

 

[Ariel82]

I meant smart enough to know that we have to "rest" when we get tired -.-

its more than that. its trusting in God to provide for you so that you don't have to work but might rest in His blessings for a day and enjoy the fruits of your labors.

but i also don't trust people lol
.

why don't you trust people?

most children are rather trusting until the world gives them a reason not to be.

humans are born without the ability to survive unless they have at least on person who loves them enough to feed and care for them for at least the first few years of their lives.

 

[Abiding]

The creation tells the gospel and of redemption and the history
of the world and the church in type. So He created it in that
order. It would take several pages to explain.

 

[Abiding]

Everyone keep in mind that we do not know DarkVoid personally. We don't know his mind. We don't know his troubles, stresses, home life or history.

Just like there's a reason we believe in God there's a reason he does not. There's a reason he is distrustful. Don't be so hard on him when you don't know where he is coming from.

His position is very age appropriate. The Master of the field calls the workers
all different times of the day and the pays the same