Question about creation.

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If god is "all-powerful" then why did it take him 7 days to create everything and why did he have to "rest".

Shouldn't he have been able to do it in 1 day and not rest?

Or is this all a metaphor so there's no possible way to know what it means for sure...
 
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Ariel82

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He created the world in that manner so that creation could follow His example and rest on the seventh day because the Sabbath was created for man and not man for the sabbath.

Romans 8
[SUP]19 [/SUP]For the earnest expectation of the creation eagerly waits for the revealing of the sons of God. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it in hope; [SUP]21 [/SUP]because the creation itself also will be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the children of God. [SUP]22 [/SUP]For we know that the whole creation groans and labors with birth pangs together until now. [SUP]23 [/SUP]Not only that, but we also who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, even we ourselves groan within ourselves, eagerly waiting for the adoption, the redemption of our body. [SUP]24 [/SUP]For we were saved in this hope, but hope that is seen is not hope; for why does one still hope for what he sees? [SUP]25 [/SUP]But if we hope for what we do not see, we eagerly wait for it with perseverance.
 
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cfultz3

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I would guess so that everything would have its appointed time.
As to the rest part, I would guess again to imply that works will come to an end.
 

Elizabeth619

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DarkVoid that is a great question.

In short he was in a way setting an example. He worked six days then rested. Back in the time of Mosaic law they were commanded to rest on the Sabbath which is Saturday(the 7th day).

Even now most everyone has a 5 or 6 day work week. Humans have to have rest. We aren't made to work everyday without rest. Our bodies would give out.

Ever thought about why most avg jobs are Mon-fri and then off on weekends? The creation in the bible is actually why. You can thank God for your off days ;)
 

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Q: If God is Omnipotent (All Powerful) Why Did He Need to Take Six Days to Create the Universe?

A: If God is Omnipotent (All Powerful) Why Did He Need to Take Six Days to Create the Universe?

This I don't agree with. Then again, I believe in a literal 6 days of creation, not billions of years. The Bible says "And there was evening, and there was morning - the third day" etc. Also, the same "day" used in creation is the same "day" used with Noah and the ark. I really hope Noah wasn't on the ark for billions of years.

DarkVoid, I don't think "rest" means that God got tired. It just means He took a break from creating anything more on that particular day. He rested from creating. :)
 
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So basically what I'm getting from these answers is god did it that way as an example for how we should live?

Don't you think we are smart enough to figure that out on our own?

So I don't see the "example" as a necessary one...

Also, where did "god" come from??

Is it possible for something to exist without being created?

And if it is possible then mayb we existed without being created?

And if it is not possible then what created "god"?
 

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If God was created, then the one who created God would be God, and whoever created the God who created God would be God, etc. That's an endless cycle. We can't wrap out minds around it (actually it makes my brain hurt to think about it), but God has always been and always will be. It is strange to think about, but our minds are bound by time; God is not.
 

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I've also thought about that point before. If God did want to create the universe in only 1 day He could have, but obviously through we what read in the Bible He chose not to. My reasoning for this would line up for this with what Rachel, Elizabeth, and Ariel already mentioned. But ultimately the reason why 6 days and not 1 isn't really a big deal, the fact the He did create everything is.
 

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Lol, I'm in the YEC camp as well and side with people like Ken Ham and his organization Answers in Genesis. Not Hugh Ross, lol.
 
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If God was created, then the one who created God would be God, and whoever created the God who created God would be God, etc. That's an endless cycle. We can't wrap out minds around it (actually it makes my brain hurt to think about it), but God has always been and always will be. It is strange to think about, but our minds are bound by time; God is not.
I've also thought about that point before. If God did want to create the universe in only 1 day He could have, but obviously through we what read in the Bible He chose not to. My reasoning for this would line up for this with what Rachel, Elizabeth, and Ariel already mentioned. But ultimately the reason why 6 days and not 1 isn't really a big deal, the fact the He did create everything is.
yea but what if that endless cycle is truth?

it's always the "what if's" that get you. they are endless. and any of these "what if's" could be true...

so you just decide on the "what if" that you like the most or makes the most sense to you?

but the reason why details are important is cuz if one detail cannot be trusted then can the big things be trusted either?

Ultimately i think i'm annoyed (understatement) that we don't have better ways of knowing what the real truth is than we do...
 

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God could have created all in 6 sec. if He chose to do so.
The problem with matter being eternal (uncreated) is....you end up with not only the same problem 'where did matter come from?' ,but now you have compounded the problem viz. 'Where did such elaborate design (such as the eyeball) come from? Intelligence? Personhood? Thoughts? the cycles of birth/deaths? Rocks simply don't experience such things.
 

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yea but what if that endless cycle is truth?

it's always the "what if's" that get you. they are endless. and any of these "what if's" could be true...

so you just decide on the "what if" that you like the most or makes the most sense to you?

but the reason why details are important is cuz if one detail cannot be trusted then can the big things be trusted either?

Ultimately i think i'm annoyed (understatement) that we don't have better ways of knowing what the real truth is than we do...
We do have a better way. Since Christians claim Jesus conquered death and is alive, He is fully capable to hear and answer those prayers that sincerely ask Him to show Himself real.
 
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We do have a better way. Since Christians claim Jesus conquered death and is alive, He is fully capable to hear and answer those prayers that sincerely ask Him to show Himself real.
I'm not going to believe something just cuz "jesus" or a "god" (wether of the bible or elsewhere) tells me that it's true...

I don't trust "god" any more than i trust you (no offense)

that's why i don't know how to know what truth is, cuz i don't trust anything.

it's obviously very hard being so distrustful...

wish there was a way for me to be sure of something :/

and it's not like i'm choosing to be this way, i just am.
 
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Ariel82

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Don't you think we are smart enough to figure that out on our own?
no, as evident by the world that is trying to live without God. "we" are not smart enough to understand what the Sabbath truly means.
 
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and it's not like i'm choosing to be this way, i just am.
what a cop out.

you are totally choosing to take no responsibility for your thoughts or your actions by claiming to "just be" the way you are.

"wish there was a way for me to be sure of something :/"

I'm sure there are quite a few things that you are "sure" of.

for example, if you are cut do you feel pain? If you stop breathing will you die?

to say that "i don't trust anything" is lying to yourself

its not very surprising though.

[h=3]1 Corinthians 2:12-14[/h]New King James Version (NKJV)

[SUP]12 [/SUP]Now we have received, not the spirit of the world, but the Spirit who is from God, that we might know the things that have been freely given to us by God.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]These things we also speak, not in words which man’s wisdom teaches but which the Holy[SUP][a][/SUP] Spirit teaches, comparing spiritual things with spiritual. [SUP]14 [/SUP]But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.
 

crossnote

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I'm not going to believe something just cuz "jesus" or a "god" (wether of the bible or elsewhere) tells me that it's true...

I don't trust "god" any more than i trust you (no offense)

that's why i don't know how to know what truth is, cuz i don't trust anything.

it's obviously very hard being so distrustful...

wish there was a way for me to be sure of something :/

and it's not like i'm choosing to be this way, i just am.
Let me ask you. If there was truly a God,what would it take for you to trust Him/Her/It?
 
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Each "day" of creation was six thousand years and we are living in the seventh day of rest. Gen. 2:4-the generations of the heavens and of the earth. Man was created in the year 4004 b.c. and there is no year 0 so in the spring it will be the year 6018