Release from the bonds of the Catholic church
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Yes, God said that when Christ came He was the fulfillment. God said not to follow men, to follow God. We have many right on this site who talks of what Calvin says, or some ism, or Luther says, etc. not what God tells in His word. We are to listen only to them as we compare it with the word. The word has power, it is of God.
First of all, CATHOLICS ARE CHRISTIAN. Who came up with the idea we are not? We don't worship Mary or any other saints. We do ask for their intercession as described by by St. Paul 1 Timothy 2:1-4. People in Heaven hear our prayers, Rev 5:8
Yes, we have images. Do we worship these images? No, of course not. They are visual reminders, that's all. To take communion is extremely serious in the Catholic Church and is not treated lightly as other churches do. We require that you understand what you are doing and why. As for being encouraged not to read the bible, that is false. My priest almost every Sunday encourages personal study time in the scriptures. As for no Bible in the Catholic Mass, that is false. We have 1 reading from the Old Testament and 1 from the New Testament and 1 from the Gospels. Where do ya'll come up with this stuff? We read out of the Bible at every single Mass. The Priest develops his sermon from these readings. If you go to mass every day, in three years you get the entire bible including the books the protestants took out. Can your church say that?
Yes, Mary is an important figure, but why wouldn't she be? She is only the Mother of the Son of God! Luke 1:48 "....from now on ALL generations will call me blessed." Sounds like the Catholic Church is the only one paying attention to this scripture. It really saddens me that people who have no idea about the Church condemn it and those of us who are members.
Yes, we have images. Do we worship these images? No, of course not. They are visual reminders, that's all. To take communion is extremely serious in the Catholic Church and is not treated lightly as other churches do. We require that you understand what you are doing and why. As for being encouraged not to read the bible, that is false. My priest almost every Sunday encourages personal study time in the scriptures. As for no Bible in the Catholic Mass, that is false. We have 1 reading from the Old Testament and 1 from the New Testament and 1 from the Gospels. Where do ya'll come up with this stuff? We read out of the Bible at every single Mass. The Priest develops his sermon from these readings. If you go to mass every day, in three years you get the entire bible including the books the protestants took out. Can your church say that?
Yes, Mary is an important figure, but why wouldn't she be? She is only the Mother of the Son of God! Luke 1:48 "....from now on ALL generations will call me blessed." Sounds like the Catholic Church is the only one paying attention to this scripture. It really saddens me that people who have no idea about the Church condemn it and those of us who are members.
Protestantism is steeped in man-made traditions. To say otherwise is utterly ignorant.
The man-made false doctrine of "Sola Scriptura" is itself a Protestant tradition. The man-made tradition of Sola Scriptura is not to be found in Scripture. In fact it is not to be found anywhere in history before the reformation.
Speaking of the reformation, Martin Luther is the only person to add/subtract from the Bible (he did both).
The man-made false doctrine of "Individual Interpretation of Holy Scripture" is condemned by scripture itself. However, Protestants do it all the time (hello nearly everyone @ christianchat), while ignoring the many verses which admonish them not to do so. This is a Protestant invented man-made tradition.
The man-made false doctrine of "Not Baptizing Infants". Interestingly, many Protestants attack the Catholic Church for baptizing infants, yet nowhere in Scripture does it say not to do so.
The man-made false doctrine that "This IS My Body", as said by Jesus Christ Himself in Matt 26:26, is really only a "symbol" of His body. Where did Jesus Christ ever say, "This is a 'symbol' of my body"? Here is yet another example of a false charge against the Catholic Church, as it is NOT Scriptural.
Grape juice at communion. Yet another man-made Protestant tradition, using grape juice and crackers for communion. Utterly unbiblical.
There's literally thousands of man-made traditions existing in all the thousands of various Protestant denominations.
Another ignorant and hypocritical attack against the Catholic Church. Neat thread.
The man-made false doctrine of "Sola Scriptura" is itself a Protestant tradition. The man-made tradition of Sola Scriptura is not to be found in Scripture. In fact it is not to be found anywhere in history before the reformation.
Speaking of the reformation, Martin Luther is the only person to add/subtract from the Bible (he did both).
The man-made false doctrine of "Individual Interpretation of Holy Scripture" is condemned by scripture itself. However, Protestants do it all the time (hello nearly everyone @ christianchat), while ignoring the many verses which admonish them not to do so. This is a Protestant invented man-made tradition.
The man-made false doctrine of "Not Baptizing Infants". Interestingly, many Protestants attack the Catholic Church for baptizing infants, yet nowhere in Scripture does it say not to do so.
The man-made false doctrine that "This IS My Body", as said by Jesus Christ Himself in Matt 26:26, is really only a "symbol" of His body. Where did Jesus Christ ever say, "This is a 'symbol' of my body"? Here is yet another example of a false charge against the Catholic Church, as it is NOT Scriptural.
Grape juice at communion. Yet another man-made Protestant tradition, using grape juice and crackers for communion. Utterly unbiblical.
There's literally thousands of man-made traditions existing in all the thousands of various Protestant denominations.
Another ignorant and hypocritical attack against the Catholic Church. Neat thread.
Peace be with you, who's web site is this catholic,s or protestant's or the LORD JESUS CHRIST's? HE will judge you, you contentious braggers about denominations.
Thus says the LORD; 'They praise me with their lips but their heart's are very far away from me.............................' (Matthew 15; 8,9)
May GOD bless you in your ignorance and arrogance. Do you think others will be build and edify by this childishness?
'Do not accumulate trouble for yourself for on judgement day.'
Thus says the LORD; 'They praise me with their lips but their heart's are very far away from me.............................' (Matthew 15; 8,9)
May GOD bless you in your ignorance and arrogance. Do you think others will be build and edify by this childishness?
'Do not accumulate trouble for yourself for on judgement day.'
Christ founded a church true but it wasnt the catholic church they where around before christ now im not catholic but im not any denomation ether they all hwve things i dont agree with but i dont dislike any of them ether the specifica doont matter its w persons heart that defines who they our not there denomnation we have a catholic priest in my town father Ron he is one of the most loving christians i know..
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God tore the veil from my eyes , he shredded every label off me.. Broke me out of the chains of religion ...
His way is much simpler .. Just "believe" . No more rituals to practice .. No more pegan ceremonies ... just believe .. And do what has been done for you..
I was adopted into a family with generations and genetations of Catholics .. I'm the first to step
Out of it .. and believe me.. the love i thought would come , dissipated real real quick..
Wich threw off and exposed a lie very quickly that I was in .. the darkest things hide behind the "cloak" of religion .. Test it sometime ... Mention to anyone deep in a church doctrine that you disagree ... all sorts of spirits begin to raise their heads
(shame , guilt, rejection, persecution,idolatry, ) the environment in threads even change . Death words begin appearing , accusations start flying .. oh yes ...It is quite interesting .. the greatest commandment is love... when love is not present ?
Something else is .. I can't see those spirits ..but I can tell immediately when they are present ..
His way is much simpler .. Just "believe" . No more rituals to practice .. No more pegan ceremonies ... just believe .. And do what has been done for you..
I was adopted into a family with generations and genetations of Catholics .. I'm the first to step
Out of it .. and believe me.. the love i thought would come , dissipated real real quick..
Wich threw off and exposed a lie very quickly that I was in .. the darkest things hide behind the "cloak" of religion .. Test it sometime ... Mention to anyone deep in a church doctrine that you disagree ... all sorts of spirits begin to raise their heads
(shame , guilt, rejection, persecution,idolatry, ) the environment in threads even change . Death words begin appearing , accusations start flying .. oh yes ...It is quite interesting .. the greatest commandment is love... when love is not present ?
Something else is .. I can't see those spirits ..but I can tell immediately when they are present ..
Scripture is sufficient!!!
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Nowhere do we read all traditions of the Church is inspired by God...
(2Ti 3:14-17)
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned them; And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.
Nowhere do we read all traditions of the Church is inspired by God...
(2Ti 3:14-17)
It is the age old battle of the flesh warring against the spirit. But we know the spirit behind it and so we do not war with the flesh but we do battle with the spirit that compels that flesh.
We can reject the obvious flesh of the Catholic Church only to step right on into another manifestation of that flesh by a different name.
Or, we can clearly identify that flesh and depart from it totally by seeking after only the spirit of God.
Therein is the dilemma. That flesh is driven by a corrupted spirit egged on by the ruler of this world's air, Satan.
How do we follow the counsel to, 1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Though it is the flesh which speaks, that flesh is speaking a spirit. Whose spirit does that flesh speak?
Many have limited what John there told us to simply whether they claim that Jesus came in the flesh or not. Some have embellished it to mean whether we believe that Jesus is God and that God came in the flesh.
What did John really mean?
We can reject the obvious flesh of the Catholic Church only to step right on into another manifestation of that flesh by a different name.
Or, we can clearly identify that flesh and depart from it totally by seeking after only the spirit of God.
Therein is the dilemma. That flesh is driven by a corrupted spirit egged on by the ruler of this world's air, Satan.
How do we follow the counsel to, 1 John 4:1 "Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world."
Though it is the flesh which speaks, that flesh is speaking a spirit. Whose spirit does that flesh speak?
Many have limited what John there told us to simply whether they claim that Jesus came in the flesh or not. Some have embellished it to mean whether we believe that Jesus is God and that God came in the flesh.
What did John really mean?