Is David not part of the Bible and even a writer thereof? Some will look at the OT indeed and it is still useful for gleaning a little wisdom. So therefore, an OT example to consider alongside the NT example for this topic. Notice how the principle is even the same of mercy. As for the woman at the well, indeed she had 5 husbands, and had yet not a husband. I agree it seems that would mean her remarriages are not legitimate. However, even she herself had said she had no husband, though she had five as Jesus pointed out, but Jesus said she answered well. The main point is Jesus offer her a solution of mercy and indeed prove himself of great wisdom, even as water drawn from a well and good food set before the whole town.
Remarriage Bibically
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Yeah, but look at Iwant's title and then his post. He's not talking about whether anyone is okay to marry again. He's talking about if it's okay to REmarry -- as in marry the same person again. It's really not okay to marry your old spouse again.
He's specific. He's not addressing all divorced people.
At least, that's what I'm seeing. Did I miss something? (I am so thankful I'm asking that of you, Marc, because you've seen enough evidence from me to know I do miss some things, and you know me enough to not take that as snarky. lol)
He's specific. He's not addressing all divorced people.
At least, that's what I'm seeing. Did I miss something? (I am so thankful I'm asking that of you, Marc, because you've seen enough evidence from me to know I do miss some things, and you know me enough to not take that as snarky. lol)
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Okay, I'm lost (officially.) I didn't get your last line. It might be because I'm not so into the whole "we are no longer under the law" thing as much as most get into that. (I do think Jesus fulfilled the law, so when we follow him and cling to him we are keeping the law just by keeping with Jesus. We're still not doing it perfectly, and doing it imperfectly is breaking it, so it can't save us, but because the law is God's will/personality/who he is in great detail by following him and letting him work his will into us, we are doing it, not simply dismissing it. So maybe that's why I don't get your last sentence.) Any chance you can clarify what you mean so I can understand better?
What are we attempting to accommodate? Remarriage or divorce?
Question: If divorce required one to live alone and never remarry would that have an influence on the divorce rate? Would that cause folks to consider more carefully the matter of marriage in the first place?
Marriage in biblical times were not as they are today. Most were arranged and were seldom for love. This is a matter that calls for wisdom and compassion towards those who are effected by it.
I cannot argue against divorce if it involves abuse or infidelity. I am hard pressed to argue against remarriage by sincere committed Christians.
Surely sins before salvation continue to have consequences for the duration of ones life on this earth. Sins are forgiven but not all the consequences are rectified just because someone got saved. Only when we are glorified together with Christ will all the consequences of sin be completely and eternally rectified. All of creation groans together awaiting the consummation of the world.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
Question: If divorce required one to live alone and never remarry would that have an influence on the divorce rate? Would that cause folks to consider more carefully the matter of marriage in the first place?
Marriage in biblical times were not as they are today. Most were arranged and were seldom for love. This is a matter that calls for wisdom and compassion towards those who are effected by it.
I cannot argue against divorce if it involves abuse or infidelity. I am hard pressed to argue against remarriage by sincere committed Christians.
Surely sins before salvation continue to have consequences for the duration of ones life on this earth. Sins are forgiven but not all the consequences are rectified just because someone got saved. Only when we are glorified together with Christ will all the consequences of sin be completely and eternally rectified. All of creation groans together awaiting the consummation of the world.
For the cause of Christ
Roger
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Yes, but you have to understand that Jesus was correcting a particular situation of the Pharisees who would marry or divorce as a matter of law, using the law as an excuse to commit adultery. Jesus is explaining that marriage is spiritual and not just a matter of law.
Even so all sin can be forgiven. I find it incredibly hypocritical that we place divorced people under the burden of sin that can never be forgiven. It seems that some churches will more readily accept an ex murderer or child molester than a divorced man.
Even so all sin can be forgiven. I find it incredibly hypocritical that we place divorced people under the burden of sin that can never be forgiven. It seems that some churches will more readily accept an ex murderer or child molester than a divorced man.
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Good point... and the issue is SURELY <imo> worth examining more closely... and when does a murderer become and EX murderer??? I don't think you meant it to be like the crime is a vocation... right? But marriage IS a vocation and how a person conducts themselves as a professing Christian in that arena IS important... dontchya think?
As I understand it, we are instructed to διακρίνω discern (evaluate) all things.
We are told not to κρίνω judge (try at law, condemn or punish.
Matt 7:1-2
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
KJV
Both types of judgement get translated as judge but they are different words.
We are told not to κρίνω judge (try at law, condemn or punish.
Matt 7:1-2
7 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
KJV
Both types of judgement get translated as judge but they are different words.
Why is everyone saying that Jesus told the woman at the well with the previous five husbands to "Go and Sin no more" He never told the woman at the well this statement. Jesus told a woman and a man to "Go and sin no more". That woman was the woman caught in adultery and they were going to stone her for it, and the man was who was lame for 38 years waiting for the moving of the water to be healed. Jesus never said to the woman at the well to "Go and sin no more".
This is just for your information.
^i^ Responding to post # 20
This is just for your information.
^i^ Responding to post # 20
It is written that we are ONE with Him, So if Jesus lives in me then i am together (ONE) with Him. And it is because of Him in me, giving me His Strength and Power to overcome EVERY temptation, that all consequences of sin is completely rectified. Even as if HE told me to "Go and sin no more". There is no sin that a person does that they can't cease from, be prepared to answer for yourself on Judgement Day, why you did not cease from it. Is it not written to get rid of the sin that so easily besets us? Yes, that is instructed to all Christians. Jesus and i are ONE. Now if i knowingly and willingly choose to commit a sin, than i have altogether DENIED His Strength and Power to overcome that temptation. How will this generation escape His wrath that is going to come upon the whole Earth because of sin.
^i^ responding to post # 24
^i^ responding to post # 24
You're right, my bad, I mentioned it first not BarlyGurl, post #12. Still though he did not condemn the woman or make her divorce or any of that in both stories woman at the well and saving the adultress from being stoned. It is a good story and lesson for the topic. We don't have to have the divorce or the remarriage stuff to learn from Jesus.
No matter what or how we try to bet around it This is what Jesus said. We tend to want to make extra excuses for allowing it. Do you know that even in America you were not granted a divorce unless you had proof that your souse cheated or some kind of abuses was taking place? I want to stay biblical though so can we change the bible because we want something that will make us happy?