Remarriage Bibically
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To the OP., I very much agree with MarkR in his replies to you. I especially appreciate his Christian spirit in the matter as well.,
2 Cor 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
KJV
2 Cor 3:5-6
5 Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God;
6 Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
KJV
re: matt 5:32 - if she is guilty of fornication whilst u r marry u divorcing her does not cause her to commit adultery for she has already committed it whilst u two were married. consider the vs in this lght. it is easier compatible with other scriptures such as God hates divorce.
re: 1 cor 7:15 it shows that marriages between two unbelievers tho recognised by God r not sealed by God for such is wong. ro 7:2 confirms that when the converted is allowed to leave the unbelieving spouse if they reject them.
remarriage under the new covenant is allowed under two reasons 1) the death of one party. 2) the dissolution of an unholy marriage.
re: 1 cor 7:15 it shows that marriages between two unbelievers tho recognised by God r not sealed by God for such is wong. ro 7:2 confirms that when the converted is allowed to leave the unbelieving spouse if they reject them.
remarriage under the new covenant is allowed under two reasons 1) the death of one party. 2) the dissolution of an unholy marriage.
S
If you marry her, then you are no longer committing fornication. Read it in the law of Moses.
Jesus specifically said that he did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. What you need to do is to read the law of Moses concerning marriage and divorce. Then interpret the words of Jesus in such a way that they do not go against that law. The Law provided for divorce and remarriage. Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
Jesus specifically said that he did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. What you need to do is to read the law of Moses concerning marriage and divorce. Then interpret the words of Jesus in such a way that they do not go against that law. The Law provided for divorce and remarriage. Jesus did not come to abolish the law.
B
Redo??? I am not sure how you mean to be using this word... as in "repeat" our mistakes or "do over" as in redeem or repair???
To repeat myself... there is enough scripture to utilitize the whole counsel of God to filter the scenarios thru to have a proper understanding of any given situation. My concern here is that your interpretation is very BROADBRUSH RIGID and seems that you believe ANYONE who was "married" once may not ever marry again without being adultery... and is therefore hellbound.
While I DO not dismiss that SOME people ARE hell-bound for adulterous unions... as long as they are breathing.. they have an opportunity to repent (God desires none should perish).
The scripture offers counsel in God's REDEMPTIVE power over our lives and the fruit of the spirit in a person SHOULD indeed cause them to desire to redeem/restore/reconcile life issues they have "messed-up" in the past, because they have not only sinned against God, but sinned against others and hurt them. Paul <tho unmarried> was a good example, he murdered Christians with zeal and then became a zealous Christian also the tax collector who made restitution.
If there is some personal instance you would like to discuss in private, you are welcome to PM me. I do think you need to embrace the whole counsel which includes the redemptive power of Christ and his GRACE... please understand that I am NOT asserting that because of GRACE the scriptures you refer to are void... I am saying that you appear to be applying them in a very absolute manner and are missing the "heart intent" issues I have made an effort to point to in my comments.
Man looks at the outward appearance... God sees the heart. Thru the Holy Spirit's guidance we can also "see" the heart issues regarding these matters.
To repeat myself... there is enough scripture to utilitize the whole counsel of God to filter the scenarios thru to have a proper understanding of any given situation. My concern here is that your interpretation is very BROADBRUSH RIGID and seems that you believe ANYONE who was "married" once may not ever marry again without being adultery... and is therefore hellbound.
While I DO not dismiss that SOME people ARE hell-bound for adulterous unions... as long as they are breathing.. they have an opportunity to repent (God desires none should perish).
The scripture offers counsel in God's REDEMPTIVE power over our lives and the fruit of the spirit in a person SHOULD indeed cause them to desire to redeem/restore/reconcile life issues they have "messed-up" in the past, because they have not only sinned against God, but sinned against others and hurt them. Paul <tho unmarried> was a good example, he murdered Christians with zeal and then became a zealous Christian also the tax collector who made restitution.
If there is some personal instance you would like to discuss in private, you are welcome to PM me. I do think you need to embrace the whole counsel which includes the redemptive power of Christ and his GRACE... please understand that I am NOT asserting that because of GRACE the scriptures you refer to are void... I am saying that you appear to be applying them in a very absolute manner and are missing the "heart intent" issues I have made an effort to point to in my comments.
Man looks at the outward appearance... God sees the heart. Thru the Holy Spirit's guidance we can also "see" the heart issues regarding these matters.
S
I don't think you understand what I am saying. I'm saying that you can't interpret the words of Jesus in such a way that you are having him break or rewrite the law. If you have Jesus saying that a divorced person can never remarry then you are saying that the Law offered more grace than Jesus did.
You have to understand what fornication is. It is a spiritual matter and not only one of flesh. Jesus was speaking specifically to the Pharisees who would divorce and remarry just because their eye saw a woman they liked better. Remember Jesus said to even look on a woman lustfully was adultery and by that strict interpretation a man would need to pluck out his eyes to keep from committing fornication.
You have to understand what fornication is. It is a spiritual matter and not only one of flesh. Jesus was speaking specifically to the Pharisees who would divorce and remarry just because their eye saw a woman they liked better. Remember Jesus said to even look on a woman lustfully was adultery and by that strict interpretation a man would need to pluck out his eyes to keep from committing fornication.
S
If you interpret the words of Jesus to say that if someone remarries after divorce they are in a continual state of fornication, then every man had better pluck out their eyes because every time they see an attractive woman and have a lustful thought they will be committing adultery and thus be in a continual state of adultery.
B
Jesus DID say a man who divorces his wife without cause and marries another commits adultery. Is the guy a Christian? If not, doesn't really matter because NONE of his sins are forgiven so why focus on this one <rhetorical>? Is the man a professing Christian??? if yes, well he has just committed a number of SEVERE offenses against the word of God and SHOWN HIMSELF to be NOT born again by lack of conviction regarding the matter.... the guy has not only committed adultery but is AN ADULTERER both physically and spiritually. Discern the heart matter???
Where did I take anything out of context and any ones respect for me does not matter to me at all. I do not care if I am respected.
I asked a question that no one will answer but try to skirt around so you answer it
If God said something is wrong and you repent for it
Can you keep doing it just because you repented and it now becomes right
I asked a question that no one will answer but try to skirt around so you answer it
If God said something is wrong and you repent for it
Can you keep doing it just because you repented and it now becomes right
L
No one is skirting around your question. You are forcing an interpretation that not all are agreeing with. There are many believers who have divorced and remarried and been happily married for many years and have children and even grand children and you advocate these people are committing adultery and that God has not blessed them but is still counting their sin against them. I like the answer robop gave you in the Bible study room about how confusing these people scenarios can get and how your ridged view doesn't allow for any grace.
Speaking as someone who has been divorced, I've experienced God's forgiveness and the gift of no condemnation. He has forgiven our sins as far as the east is from the west. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus., These truths are for every issue in human experience. God's forgiveness is greater than all our sin. What Jesus did covers all sin., yes, even divorce.
Speaking as someone who has been divorced, I've experienced God's forgiveness and the gift of no condemnation. He has forgiven our sins as far as the east is from the west. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus., These truths are for every issue in human experience. God's forgiveness is greater than all our sin. What Jesus did covers all sin., yes, even divorce.
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i am one who lives by the Word of God. i was divorced 8 years ago, i can never remarry, unless i am reconciled to my wife. i know i will never have sex again, unless i am reconciled with my wife. i have been celibate now for 8 years. i will not remarry because i will not commit adultery.
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