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Same was as today. By faith not looking at their own flesh which even the Son of man applied to His ;it did not profit because it could not ..

Words used to carry meanings. Seems like we are heading towards the tower of Babble. Discriminating against words having meaning as a law not subject to change is a no, no today.Just use your own imagination. If it feel good do it.

Not all Israel.. a word that means .. “Emanuel God with us” are Israel . If any man has not the Spirit of Christ that gives us as born again children of God a new spirit and new heart..they do not belong to Him

The new name he names those who do have the Spirit of Christ is Christian. Not all who take the name are residents of the City of Christ the New Jerusalem prepared as his one bride .God is not a respecter of person.

What applies to Israel applies to the word Christian .God puts no difference (none) between the two, purifying the hearts of both by a work of His faith or labor of His love.

Gen 32:28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power "with God" and with men, and hast prevailed.

They were used for special purposes up till the time of reformation . They revert back to the gentile from where they were taken temporarily. When the fulness of the gentiles has come (the last day) they will be of every nation of the world to include Jewish flesh .
amen One faith, One Lord, One baptism, One God and Father of all and it was always foretold

Isaiah 49 :5-7 "And now, saith the LORD that formed me from the womb to be his servant, to bring Jacob again to him, Though Israel be not gathered, yet shall I be glorious in the eyes of the LORD, and my God shall be my strength.6And he said, It is a light thing that thou shouldest be my servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob, and to restore the preserved of Israel: I will also give thee for a light to the Gentiles, that thou mayest be my salvation unto the end of the earth.
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Thus saith the LORD, the Redeemer of Israel, and his Holy One, to him whom man despiseth, to him whom the nation abhorreth, to a servant of rulers, Kings shall see and arise, princes also shall worship, because of the LORD that is faithful, and the Holy One of Israel, and he shall choose thee."

God has a plan always Has. it was always to gathjer His People THROUGH the jewish nation. if you really consider prophecy, there is a purpose hidden oin the wrath put upon the Jews for thier rebellion, they were scattered into every nation on earth, and where the Jews were scattered, the Law went with them as a witness to the earth.

the same Happened to the apostles they were scattered into the world, and with them went the Gospel as a witness. Gods plan was always One people of all nations and kindreds, its Just that Like a plan to build a House, you first have to prepare the Ground, then you have to lay a foundation, then you move to framing and wiring, then the floors and walls and ceiling...eventually you have a House. the Gospel is where the House is complete. Gods Plan is like that Our foundation is the Word we received through Israel. " salvation is from the Jews"

everything that God made to Happen all has a singular purpose, the redemption of Man from His fall in eden.
 

Locutus

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She's a real sweetie but she doesn't like cats, squirrels or pigs. If I play a YouTube video with any of those she goes crazy attacking my screen. Same thing if they come on TV. She loves to watch TV too. I have to be careful she doesn't knock it over.


She probably thinks they are invading the home turf.

I was over at some friends of mine for supper, after we watched a video I'd bought by the BBC "tiny giants", their new adopted 1 year old dog was fascinated by it.
 

Timeline

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Lock back the history. the promisses in f.e. in Joel 2 (23-32) for the folk of Israel have not been fulfilled

Be glad then, you children of Zion, and rejoice in the LORD your God: for he has given you the former rain faithfully, and he will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain in the first month. 24 And the threshing floors shall be full of wheat, and the vats shall overflow with wine and oil. 25 And I will restore to you the years that the swarming locust has eaten, the crawling locust, and the consuming locust, and the cutting locust, my great army which I sent among you. 26 And you shall eat in plenty, and be satisfied, and praise the name of the LORD your God, who has dealt wondrously with you: and my people shall never be ashamed. 27 And you shall know that I am in the midst of Israel, and that I am the LORD your God, and none else: and my people shall never be ashamed. 28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions: 29 And also upon the servants and upon the handmaids in those days will I pour out my spirit. 30 And I will show wonders in the heavens and in the earth, blood, and fire, and pillars of smoke. 31 The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before the great and the terrible day of the LORD comes. 32 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the LORD shall be delivered: for in mount Zion and in Jerusalem shall be deliverance, as the LORD has said, and in the remnant whom the LORD shall call.

So how you can say it is fullfilled?




Acts 2:
16But this is that which hath been spoken through the prophet Joel:17And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;
18and also upon My men-servants, and upon My maid-servants, in those days, I will pour out of My Spirit, and they shall prophesy;
19and I will give wonders in the heaven above, and signs upon the earth beneath — blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke,
20the sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the day of the Lord — the great and illustrious;
21and it shall be, every one — whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, he shall be saved.

I don't know, because Peter says that it was fulfilled at Pentecost.
 

PlainWord

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She probably thinks they are invading the home turf.

I was over at some friends of mine for supper, after we watched a video I'd bought by the BBC "tiny giants", their new adopted 1 year old dog was fascinated by it.
Yes, she thinks things on TV are really in her house and she has to defend us? "Tiny Giants," any good?
 

Locutus

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Acts 2:
16But this is that which hath been spoken through the prophet Joel:17And it shall be in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of My Spirit upon all flesh, and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams;
18and also upon My men-servants, and upon My maid-servants, in those days, I will pour out of My Spirit, and they shall prophesy;
19and I will give wonders in the heaven above, and signs upon the earth beneath — blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke,
20the sun shall be turned to darkness, and the moon to blood, before the coming of the day of the Lord — the great and illustrious;
21and it shall be, every one — whoever shall call upon the name of the Lord, he shall be saved.

I don't know, because Peter says that it was fulfilled at Pentecost.
Dispensationalists claim that only the pouring out of the spirit occurred in the 1st century thus making Peter's quotation of Joel invalid TL.