Should We Still Keep the Feasts

[fredjames]

Apostle Paul spoke about his kinsmen, the Jews who were in ignorant to the Gospel, thinking of them, it is like he is going through birth pains, written in the epistle to the Romans. Even Apostle Paul in his unworthiness and undeservingness testimony teaches us that he had a burden and compassion for the ignorant fellow Jews to be saved, who were actually initially by GOD's will were made blind and deaf to the Gospel. so that the Gospel may go to the Gentiles.

If you still disagree with these of the HOLY SPIRIT and continue in your ignorant boldness, then we are not able to witness to you more further. You are an infant in the Kingdom of GOD and still drinking milk and i have to understand.

Thank you and may the Good GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIS bless you with HIS kindness and peace.

 

[Bookends]

I agree with you on that one. I don't know what you mean by "anti-type" though.
In that he saith , A new covenant, he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. (Hebrews 8:13 and the next verse Hebrews 9:1)

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

John 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up .
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building , and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

anti-type
1.1. (Bible) a person or thing that is foreshadowed or represented by a type or symbol, esp a character orevent in the New Testament prefigured in the Old Testam

 

[Bookends]

This sounds so holy!! Then why are shadows mentioned in scripture if there are no shadows?

Shadows are unclear, vague, images of the real thing right? The feasts, ceremonial laws, levitical laws all pointed to Christ. There are shadows of Christ in the OT because God waited in His timing to send His son to earth. Now that the real thing has come, we know its the real thing because of the shadow. We don't need to looking at the shadow anymore, unless perhaps someone is is still searching for Christ.

Paul says even now we don't see clearly but in part, regarding prophecy, tongues and knowledge. But we will see clearly when we see Him face to face. Shadows are like this, the OT saints did not see clearly, but in part regarding Jesus. When Jesus came all the parts came together.

 

[just-me]

Just-me but physical circumcision was part of the Law given to them.

Genesis 17:10-11

This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised.And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.

But Here God himself shows, He had a better plan all along in Christ.

Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

Physical circumcision flesh , His talking about his very own Law. The Covenant of Circumcision.between me and you and thy seed after thee

God plans are perfect always

Galatians 5:6 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision means anything, but faith working through love.

Just-me why did the disciples of Jesus Christ not uphold the law of Physical circumcision towards the Gentiles.

The only one that can circumcision the heart is God.

God Bless

Physical circumcision was way before Moses. It started with Abraham. The circumcising of the heart started with the law that God gave to Moses.

This is the first time that the word "circumcise" in mentioned in the KJV Bible. (Covenant with Abraham)

And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you. (Genesis 17:11)

This is the second mentioning of the word "circumcise" in the KJV Bible. (The law)

Circumcise therefore the foreskin of your heart, and be no more stiffnecked. (Deuteronomy 10:16)

This is the third time the word "circumcise" in mentioned in the KJV Bible. (The law)

And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live. (Deuteronomy 30:6)

You ask me "Just-me why did the disciples of Jesus Christ not uphold the law of Physical circumcision towards the Gentiles."

My answer is.......Because physical circumcision wasn't part of the law that God gave to Moses.

The next time the word "circumcise" is mentioned is in the book of Joshua after Moses was dead. (the covenant with Abraham's seed) After all the people were dead who came out of Egypt, after the 40 years in the wilderness, (except Joshua and Caleb) Joshua reinstated the sign of the covenant with Abraham and his seed. Here is the reason.

"And this is the cause why Joshua did circumcise: All the people that came out of Egypt, that were males, even all the men of war, died in the wilderness by the way, after they came out of Egypt." (Joshua 5:4)

The physical circumcision was for Israel and not for gentiles. It never has been. The circumcision of the heart is for both Gentiles and Jews. That's why Paul said it didn't mean anything physically to the Gentiles. It is a sign of the covenant to the Jew first and also to the gentile of the heart not the physical. I really wish people who want to debunk the law could understand this. So many times circumcision has been brought up to make void the law. Seems as if the people that want to make the law void haven't even read what the law really says just like the Pharisees.

This is the only time the word "circumcision" is in the Old Testament telling the story of Moses before He returned to Egypt with all the plagues that God would sent. This was months before the time the law was given at Sinai.

So he let him go : then she said , A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. (Exodus 4:26)

The next time the word is mentioned ins in the New Testament.

John 7:15-23 (Jesus is mentioning circumcision to show how screwed up the Pharisaical viewpoint of the law really was just because Jesus healed a man on the Sabbath day. Do we mess it up that bad today? Could be.)
15 And the Jews marvelled , saying , How knoweth this man letters, having never learned ?
16 Jesus answered them, and said , My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me.
17 If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.
18 He that speaketh of himself seeketh his own glory: but he that seeketh his glory that sent him, the same is true, and no unrighteousness is in him.
19 Did not Moses give you the law, and yet none of you keepeth the law? Why go ye about to kill me?
20 The people answered and said , Thou hast a devil: who goeth about to kill thee?
21 Jesus answered and said unto them, I have done one work, and ye all marvel.
22 Moses therefore gave unto you circumcision; (not because it is of Moses, but of the fathers and ye on the sabbath day circumcise a man.
23 If a man on the sabbath day receive circumcision, that the law of Moses should not be broken ; are ye angry at me, because I have made a man every whit whole on the sabbath day?

See how the Pharisees did not know their history and messed up the truth of the law? This one commandment of circumcision in the law is that the heart is to be circumcised. There is no Sinai law of physical circumcision.

 

[john832]

Shadows are unclear, vague, images of the real thing right? The feasts, ceremonial laws, levitical laws all pointed to Christ. There are shadows of Christ in the OT because God waited in His timing to send His son to earth. Now that the real thing has come, we know its the real thing because of the shadow. We don't need to looking at the shadow anymore, unless perhaps someone is is still searching for Christ.

Paul says even now we don't see clearly but in part, regarding prophecy, tongues and knowledge. But we will see clearly when we see Him face to face. Shadows are like this, the OT saints did not see clearly, but in part regarding Jesus. When Jesus came all the parts came together.

So this makes all the shadows false? They are types of a future fulfillment...

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

So these are types of something yet to come and this was written twenty some years after the crucifixion. So these shadows, these types point to something yet future.

They sure do, they point to the return of Christ, the Millennium, the Last Great Day and the fulfillment of the 7000 year plan of God for salvation of mankind.

This is what happens when you don't keep the Holydays, you don't understand the plan of God. It is revealed by the shadows, the types which are the Holydays.

 

[just-me]

He was referring to His body, not the building. The physical temple was the anti-type to the Christ. God was behind destroying of the anti-type. Not destroying the meaning of it or significance/role it played in teaching us the Real Temple, but destroying it as being the center or object of worship.

I agree with you on that one. I don't know what you mean by "anti-type" though.
In that he saith , A new covenant, he hath made the first old . Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away. Then verily the first covenant had also ordinances of divine service, and a worldly sanctuary. (Hebrews 8:13 and the next verse Hebrews 9:1)

1 Corinthians 6:19
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

John 2:19-21
19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up .
20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building , and wilt thou rear it up in three days?
21 But he spake of the temple of his body.

1 Corinthians 12:27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.

anti-type 1. (Bible) a person or thing that is foreshadowed or represented by a type or symbol, esp a character orevent in the New Testament prefigured in the Old Testam

Question is in bold red.

Full Definition of ANTI-TYPE
Something that corresponds to or is foreshadowed in a type, or an opposite type
Anti-type
A person or thing that represents the opposite of someone or something else, or something that is represented by a symbol.
Ante-type

an earlier form; prototype

Origin of anti-type
both from Greek, masculine & neuter of antitypos repelled by a hard body, corresponding to a die, from antitypoun to strike against, from anti-[SUP]1[/SUP]anti- + typoun to stamp, from typos blow, mark of a blow, mold

Still confused. Maybe a different word might be more appropriate.

 

[JesusLives]

Good Morning Just-Me

You are up early - Thanks for the copy of your book I am in process of reading. Darlene/JesusLives

 

[just-me]

If Acts 15 is the beginning of the the laws that the Gentiles should keep...what is the end? Where do I find it's list?

The Pentateuch is the place to go. If you are not good with that, because you believe it doesn't apply, then you might fall into this category.
"Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be." (Romans 8:7)

 

[just-me]

Good Morning Just-Me

You are up early - Thanks for the copy of your book I am in process of reading. Darlene/JesusLives

If you have any questions PM me and give me the page where you are. This is a blessing for sure. May God cause His face to shine upon you. (smile)

 

[Scuba]

Should we use God's road map to know where we're going and to see all the points of interest along the way?

 

[just-me]

Should we use God's road map to know where we're going and to see all the points of interest along the way?

That's the very purpose of the 3 feasts, and why we are to keep them in our hearts, minds, and souls. Amen

Thou shalt not hearken unto the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of dreams: for the LORD your God proveth you, to know whether ye love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul. Deuteronomy 13:3

And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. (Mark 12:3)

 

[crossnote]

After gleaning through these posts, I see Satan's great lies to the people, that being that they are "Church" and not "Israel".

The KJV uses the word "Church", Strong's # G1577. The equivalent words from LXX are Strong's H3862 and H6951. Here is how they read in Strong's:

G1577
ἐκκλησία
ekklēsia
ek-klay-see'-ah
From a compound of G1537 and a derivative of G2564; a calling out, that is, (concretely) a popular meeting, especially a religious congregation (Jewish synagogue, or Christian community of members on earth or saints in heaven or both): - assembly, church.

LXX related word(s)
H3862 lahaqah
H6951 qahal

H3862
להקה
lahăqâh
lah-hak-aw'
Probably from an unused root meaning to gather; an assembly: - company.

H6951
קהל
qâhâl
kaw-hawl
From H6950; assemblage (usually concretely): - assembly, company, congregation, multitude.

The Big Lie is that Jesus came to start "The Church". We are all Israel of God through Christ. Once the Holy Spirit convicts you of the deception, you will have eyes to see and ears to hear and understand what is truth in scripture and what the Christian Churches have passed down as being separate from Israel is a big fat lie. The whole Bible then becomes relevant and easy to understand.

Jer 16:19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ends of the earth, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.

I guess Jesus lied....

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

 

[john832]

I guess Jesus lied....

Matthew 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

No, I don't think He lied.

 

[peacefulbeliever]

Romans 2:1-10
1 Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest : for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things.
2 But we are sure that the judgment of God is according to truth against them which commit such things.
3 And thinkest thou this, O man, that judgest them which do such things, and doest the same, that thou shalt escape the judgment of God?
4 Or despisest thou the riches of his goodness and forbearance and longsuffering; not knowing that the goodness of God leadeth thee to repentance?
5 But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God;
6 Who will render to every man according to his deeds:
7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:
8 But unto them that are contentious , and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;
10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

Romans 1:11-16
11 For I long to see you, that I may impart unto you some spiritual gift, to the end ye may be established ;
12 That is , that I may be comforted together with you by the mutual faith both of you and me.
13 Now I would not have you ignorant , brethren, that oftentimes I purposed to come unto you, (but was let hitherto ,) that I might have some fruit among you also, even as among other Gentiles.
14 I am debtor both to the Greeks, and to the Barbarians; both to the wise, and to the unwise.
15 So, as much as in me is, I am ready to preach the gospel to you that are at Rome also.
16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth ; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.

It's like the question "what came first, the chicken or the egg?"
Without the caterpillar there is no butterfly. Metamorphosis - one crawls and one flies.
Without the tadpole there is no frog. under water on the water

Take away either one and the cycle stops cold, and then extinction reigns. The spiritual applications of the physical are a perfect ecological cycle when God engineers and creates that which He calls good

We all know the law came first . . . . and is there for our learning and understanding - For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Does the chicken return to an egg? Does the butterfly return to a caterpillar or does the frog return to a tadpole? No they continue the cycle each being renewed and transformed through the ecological cycle - Can't the NT stand on it's own merit as the better testament, the OT renewed and transformed unto a more excellent ministry and carried through to the NT brought about by the birth, death, and resurrection of our Lord? Should we remain under the veil or blinded or should we not be ashamed of the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation to every one who believes [and we know that the OT could not perfect the ones who "tried" to keep it].

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with he Spirit of the living God; not in table of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. . . . .Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones was glorious so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doeth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory . . .
Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: and not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament which veil is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away. Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, thre is liberty. But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord are changed into the same image from glory to glory even as by the Spirit of our Lord. 2 Cor. 3:3,5-9,12-18

 

[john832]

We all know the law came first . . . . and is there for our learning and understanding - For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Does the chicken return to an egg? Does the butterfly return to a caterpillar or does the frog return to a tadpole? No they continue the cycle each being renewed and transformed through the ecological cycle - Can't the NT stand on it's own merit as the better testament, the OT renewed and transformed unto a more excellent ministry and carried through to the NT brought about by the birth, death, and resurrection of our Lord? Should we remain under the veil or blinded or should we not be ashamed of the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation to every one who believes [and we know that the OT could not perfect the ones who "tried" to keep it].

What was the problem?

Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:

Heb 3:10 Wherefore I was grieved with that generation, and said, They do alway err in their heart; and they have not known my ways.

Forasmuch as ye are manifestly declared to be the epistle of Christ ministered by us, written not with ink, but with he Spirit of the living God; not in table of stone, but in fleshy tables of the heart. . . . .Not that we are sufficient of ourselves to think any thing as of ourselves; but our sufficiency is of God; Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones was glorious so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doeth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory . . .
Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: and not as Moses, which put a veil over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same veil untaken away in the reading of the old testament which veil is done away in Christ. But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the veil is upon their heart. Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the veil shall be taken away. Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, thre is liberty. But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord are changed into the same image from glory to glory even as by the Spirit of our Lord. 2 Cor. 3:3,5-9,12-18

So when our minds are opened by the Holy Spirit...

Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.

Joh 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come.

We throw out all of these statements?

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.

Joh 14:23 Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love me, he will keep my words: and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him.
Joh 14:24 He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is not mine, but the Father's which sent me.

Mat 19:17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

Joh 15:14 Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you.

With John 15:14 in mind, reread Mat 19:17.

1Jn 5:2 By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
1Jn 5:3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.

 

[just-me]

We all know the law came first . . . . and is there for our learning and understanding - For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written for our learning, that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.

Does the chicken return to an egg? Does the butterfly return to a caterpillar or does the frog return to a tadpole? No they continue the cycle each being renewed and transformed through the ecological cycle - Can't the NT stand on it's own merit as the better testament, the OT renewed and transformed unto a more excellent ministry and carried through to the NT brought about by the birth, death, and resurrection of our Lord? Should we remain under the veil or blinded or should we not be ashamed of the gospel of Christ, the power of God unto salvation to every one who believes [and we know that the OT could not perfect the ones who "tried" to keep it].

The answer to your questions are no. That's not the point of my analogy. Just because we are not under the OT law doesn't mean that there is no value in it for Christians after faith comes. It is needful to grow thereby. Jesus fulfilled and if what He fulfilled is destroyed there remains nothing lift to fulfill. It's a cycle of events that happen continuously to the human race and those that truly believe. That's why the Bible says man shall live by EVERY word God has spoken to Moses and the prophets, not just the words contained within the new covenant. This is the purpose of the feasts so we can understand the concepts of how the salvation plan really works for us. The feasts are a show of God's grace.

John 5:46-47
46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

Kill the chicken and there is no egg to be hatched into a chicken to lay more eggs. Kill the caterpillar and there will be no butterfly to propagate more caterpillars. Kill the tadpole and there will be no frog to propagate more tadpoles. The law, faith and grace work together in the cycle of events called salvation. It's a way of sustaining spiritual life. Just like the chicken, caterpillar, and tadpole are God's creation, they are given to us for the understanding of His cycle of events of law, faith and grace concerning real salvation. Salvation is not something that happened in our past. It's a way of life now and eternal.

 

[royalscot]

The new covenant is Christ, do you really think that Christ destroyed everything of His Father? Christ said he didn't. When I get something new it is usually added to what I already have, something new does not require destroying anything old.

All these scripture you give to say that we have salvation and forgiveness of sin through Christ was not given to us to uphold disregarding law. Paul says "to the contrary".

who introduced you to god and what law did cornilus repent of. ?


[SUP]28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a man who is a Jew to associate with a foreigner or to visit him;

who told a gentile the law given to moses.
[/SUP]
[SUP]16 "For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life.
[/SUP]
Acts 10: Cornelius's Vision,
why, was he told to send for peter. [SUP]1 Now there was a man at Caesarea named Cornelius, a centurion of what was called the Italian cohort,2 a devout man and one who feared God with all his household, and gave many alms to the Jewish people and prayed to God continually.3 About the ninth hour of the day he clearly saw in a vision an angel of God who had just come in and said to him, "Cornelius!"4 And fixing his gaze on him and being much alarmed, he said, "What is it, Lord?"
[/SUP]

 

[royalscot]

Ephesians 2:12-15






12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby

2 things we abolished here. The 3[SUP]rd[/SUP] thing you are probably going to say isn't it. 3 guesses. What do you think they are?

No it sounds like a distorted Pharisees doctrine doing the talking.
2 Corinthians 10:15 Not boasting of things without our measure, that is, of other men's labours; but having hope, when your *faith is increased, that we shall be enlarged by you according to our rule abundantly

The Gentiles were exhorted to increase in faith. Faith establishes the law ya know.
Romans 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid : yea, we establish the law.

When *faith is increased, I would think that the understanding of the spiritual concepts of the law are also increased. What do you think in reference to Acts 15?

prove ,when did a gentile get the full law.

was the full law, when given to a gentile, at this meeting. when believing in jesus saved them.

[SUP]24 So then, the law was our guardian until Christ came, in order that we might be justified by faith.25 But now that faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian,26 for in Christ Jesus you are all sons of God, through faith.27 For as many of you as were baptized into Christ have put on Christ.28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.29 And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.
[/SUP](acts 15)what law was given to a gentile, so he must be talking about a jewish christain
[SUP]27 Then what becomes of our boasting? It is excluded. By what kind of law? By a law of works? No, but by the law of faith.28 For we hold that one is justified by faith apart from works of the law.29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is he not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also,30 since God is one---who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith.

to jew and gentile christains by faith in jesus

[SUP]13 For the promise to Abraham and his offspring that he would be heir of the world did not come through the law but through the righteousness of faith.14 For if it is the adherents of the law who are to be the heirs, faith is null and the promise is void.15 For the law brings wrath, but where there is no law there is no transgression.
[/SUP][/SUP]

 

[royalscot]

Acts 15
15 And certain men which came down from Judaea taught the brethren, and said, Except ye be circumcised after the manner of Moses, ye cannot be saved.
[SUP]2 [/SUP]When therefore Paul and Barnabas had no small dissension and disputation with them, they determined that Paul and Barnabas, and certain other of them, should go up to Jerusalem unto the apostles and elders about this question.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And being brought on their way by the church, they passed through Phenice and Samaria, declaring the conversion of the Gentiles: and they caused great joy unto all the brethren.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]And when they were come to Jerusalem, they were received of the church, and of the apostles and elders, and they declared all things that God had done with them.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]But there rose up certain of the sect of the Pharisees which believed, saying, That it was needful to circumcise them, and to command them to keep the law of Moses.
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And the apostles and elders came together for to consider of this matter.
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And when there had been much disputing, Peter rose up, and said unto them, Men and brethren, ye know how that a good while ago God made choice among us, that the Gentiles by my mouth should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
[SUP]11 [/SUP]But we believe that through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
[SUP]12 [/SUP]Then all the multitude kept silence, and gave audience to Barnabas and Paul, declaring what miracles and wonders God had wrought among the Gentiles by them.
[SUP]13 [/SUP]And after they had held their peace, James answered, saying, Men and brethren, hearken unto me:
[SUP]14 [/SUP]Simeon hath declared how God at the first did visit the Gentiles, to take out of them a people for his name.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]And to this agree the words of the prophets; as it is written,
[SUP]16 [/SUP]After this I will return, and will build again the tabernacle of David, which is fallen down; and I will build again the ruins thereof, and I will set it up:
[SUP]17 [/SUP]That the residue of men might seek after the Lord, and all the Gentiles, upon whom my name is called, saith the Lord, who doeth all these things.
[SUP]18 [/SUP]Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]Wherefore my sentence is, that we trouble not them, which from among the Gentiles are turned to God:
[SUP]20 [/SUP]But that we write unto them, that they abstain from pollutions of idols, and from fornication, and from things strangled, and from blood.
[SUP]21 [/SUP]For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
[SUP]22 [/SUP]Then pleased it the apostles and elders with the whole church, to send chosen men of their own company to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas; namely, Judas surnamed Barsabas and Silas, chief men among the brethren:
[SUP]23 [/SUP]And they wrote letters by them after this manner; The apostles and elders and brethren send greeting unto the brethren which are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Forasmuch as we have heard, that certain which went out from us have troubled you with words, subverting your souls, saying, Ye must be circumcised, and keep the law: to whom we gave no such commandment:
[SUP]25 [/SUP]It seemed good unto us, being assembled with one accord, to send chosen men unto you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul,
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Men that have hazarded their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]27 [/SUP]We have sent therefore Judas and Silas, who shall also tell you the same things by mouth.
[SUP]28 [/SUP]For it seemed good to the Holy Ghost, and to us, to lay upon you no greater burden than these necessary things;
[SUP]29 [/SUP]That ye abstain from meats offered to idols, and from blood, and from things strangled, and from fornication: from which if ye keep yourselves, ye shall do well. Fare ye well.
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If you want to keep the feasts there is nothing wrong with that, but this chapter shows the only things that the gentiles believers should follow.[/SUP]

it also proves, who told a gentile, about jesus, when did peter say anything about the law. etc

[SUP]28 And he said to them, "You yourselves know how unlawful it is for a Jew to associate with or to visit anyone of another nation, but God has shown me that I should not call any person common or unclean.29 So when I was sent for, I came without objection. I ask then why you sent for me." acts 10.


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24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,
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1 Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ.2 Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God.3 More than that, we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance
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Prove to me that they didn't first.

law saved no man or woman.

[SUP]24 and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus,[/SUP]

jesus had to come to earth for that grace to be given. follow the dates and you will come close to why there is a new covenant in place, not an old covenant that was given to a jewish person or nation.