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im sorry but what your saying is two different things one some is intentionally triing to kill them selfs and the other is hoping to live and be a daredevil bad ass. most of them you observe with risky job or high risk fun you will see.like the poblissity. they only do it to tell some one to show off . they have to have a crowd. most
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we can't judge if a suicide goes to hell or not, God judges a person's soul.
however we can tell anyone thinking of suicide that we love them and perhaps thats why this song has been playing through my head all day....
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdgCajndgNw[/video]
love you.
however we can tell anyone thinking of suicide that we love them and perhaps thats why this song has been playing through my head all day....
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QdgCajndgNw[/video]
love you.
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I am not going to say whether suicide means you go to Hell or not, but I will say that if you are a Christian you shouldn't have any reason to commit suicide no matter how bad you think your life is. Also I don't mean to offend you, but when you put suicide and risking oneself to save another on the same level I think you are wrong. In suicide you are trying to deliberately end your own life with no other outcome than hurting your loved ones and yourself. When you put your life on the line to save another persons life you are doing it for that person. If you jump in front of car to save someone you aren't thinking "I am going to kill myself by jumping in front of that car, but in the process I am going to save that man!" I can't say that is 100% factual because I have never been in that situation nor do I know someone who has been in that situation, but that is what I assume. I think God would understand someone risking their own life to save another. What Would Jesus Do? I think he would jump in front of a car to save another person. I mean he did die already for everyone once.
Allow me to put it this way:
There is no flippin' evidence whatsoever in the Old Testament or the New for suicide leading to hell/Sheol/purgatory. If you support such a position then your arguments would likely be so flawed and devoid of even a shred of reason that they'd be both pitiful and laughable. Even if it's the case, there is nothing in the Bible that supports it.
If someone's suicidal then telling them that they'd go to hell wouldn't make a bit of difference, and in some cases might even make them want to commit suicide even more. A suicidal person is not in their right mind.
There is no flippin' evidence whatsoever in the Old Testament or the New for suicide leading to hell/Sheol/purgatory. If you support such a position then your arguments would likely be so flawed and devoid of even a shred of reason that they'd be both pitiful and laughable. Even if it's the case, there is nothing in the Bible that supports it.
If someone's suicidal then telling them that they'd go to hell wouldn't make a bit of difference, and in some cases might even make them want to commit suicide even more. A suicidal person is not in their right mind.
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Do you think someone comminting suicide is going to catch God off guard? He sees the end
from the beginning. From the moment of creation, He knew how everything would go.
The "End" from the "Begining"..... He doesn't pay for sins from begining as you go, but sees
your finished life completed and wipes it clean. That sucide was taken care of, on the cross, 2000
years ago, when He said, "It IS Finished." John Doe, who would be born 1950 years later, He saw John's entire life completed. Jesus took care of it then and there.
If someone commits suicide they basically saying God failed them and they have no reason for life. Who is anyone that THEY decide when it is their time? One person I know killed themselves was Judas and he had not God. Suicide is not ok, if it was that easy to escape King David would have been killed himself and even the Christians during the Roman times.
There is a reason why people like Paul and others said stay strong and run the race. Suicide is not justifiable what type of Satanic comment is that, saying nothing is wrong with it? If it was that EASY to escape the trials of this life, every single Christian during the Roman era would have killed themselves. Do you not think that if suicide was ok they would have not rather killed themselves before being fed to hungry lions? If it was that easy do you not think King David would have killed himself? But SOMETHING tells you inside it is just wrong to kill yourself. Who ever even thinks of justifying suicide is satanic and NOT of God. That is my view. You think God is going to say "Hey yea that life of yours was hard, even though I said stay strong. I would let you pass, your life was the hardest I ever seen. It puts King David, Peter, and all the slain prophets life to shame. So yea you can go into heaven". I am tired of so call Christians saying Satanic comments. Do not defile his name you hypocrites lest you seek his anger!
First, I totally agree with what you have posted. Previously in one of my own posts is placed the thinking that when a person murders his objective is to destroy, while a person driven to such an extreme as terminating his life is not attempting to destroy anything at all, rather that person is trying to stop unbearable pain.
It is written in more than one instance in the Word, Yahweh will in no wise turn away a broken heart, and no one here is above our Father.
As for going to hell, that is not for anyone here to decide, at least not until judgment is handed over to the saints, and that will be when the thrones are set up for that purpose.
As for the Word, no where is suicide mentioned as a sin, and even if by a huge stretch of the imagination it should be murder, like all other sin, it is forgiveable, or are you who condemn free of all sin?
It is written in more than one instance in the Word, Yahweh will in no wise turn away a broken heart, and no one here is above our Father.
As for going to hell, that is not for anyone here to decide, at least not until judgment is handed over to the saints, and that will be when the thrones are set up for that purpose.
As for the Word, no where is suicide mentioned as a sin, and even if by a huge stretch of the imagination it should be murder, like all other sin, it is forgiveable, or are you who condemn free of all sin?
Where in the bible does it say to kill yourself? Where in the bible is it stated that you are given the choice to take your life? Why did not Peter commit suicide? Why did not Paul? Why did not Job? Did you not read what these guys went through? Who is anyone to say they are so pure in righteous in God's eyes that they deem themselves worthy to kill themselves? Even people like Paul who was VERY righteous said to run the race to make sure you are right with God. So is anyone here on earth so righteous that they decide they are good enough to take their own life?
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Where in the bible does it say it is ok to commit adultry, or commit murder? Yet king David did both of these. Sin is sin is sin. Why do people want to always focus on one sin?
I am not saying it is ok. what gave you that Idea? I am saying it is sin, and sin was taken care of by Christ on the cross. Thats why David was forgiven for his adulterous murderous affair, and why paul was forgiven for murdering alot of Gods people. It is called grace. If a Child of God is losing the battle because he has not grown in Christ, and satan gets the best of him to the point he takes his life. He will still be a child of God. God does not take his gift back because we do not match up to his standard. we will NEVER match up to his standard.
Now if a person who is not a child of God takes his life. he took his eternity with him, because he will no longer have the chance to recieve the gospel of Christ.
I am not saying it is ok. what gave you that Idea? I am saying it is sin, and sin was taken care of by Christ on the cross. Thats why David was forgiven for his adulterous murderous affair, and why paul was forgiven for murdering alot of Gods people. It is called grace. If a Child of God is losing the battle because he has not grown in Christ, and satan gets the best of him to the point he takes his life. He will still be a child of God. God does not take his gift back because we do not match up to his standard. we will NEVER match up to his standard.
Now if a person who is not a child of God takes his life. he took his eternity with him, because he will no longer have the chance to recieve the gospel of Christ.