From my life here on earth, I have never once seen anyone who committed suicide or thought of, that is worthy to even commit suicide and expect God to say "Hey im glad you took your life, come on in with the like of King David, Job, Paul, Peter and even me who endured the sufferings of this earth". Keep dreaming.
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You mean the murderous/adulterous king david who had many wives, and murdered one womans husband to be with her? Or the man saul who made it his life purpose to KILL christians? or Peter, who denied Christ not one, but three times when the going got tough.
All these perfect men deserved to get to heaven? wow man you have a skewed perspective of what God thinks. No one deserves to get to heaven. NO ONE.
These men will be rewarded greatly for their sacrifice. amen. But it does not mean some will not get in, even if as through fire, having nothing but wood hay and straw as their reward.
All these perfect men deserved to get to heaven? wow man you have a skewed perspective of what God thinks. No one deserves to get to heaven. NO ONE.
These men will be rewarded greatly for their sacrifice. amen. But it does not mean some will not get in, even if as through fire, having nothing but wood hay and straw as their reward.
This is almost the equivalent of saying sell your soul to Satan for easy gain, than to suffer her on earth. So when I die will God pardon my sin for accepting Satan as an easy way out?, which makes no sense because you cant ask for forgiveness at the judgement seat. If it was that easy there would be no hell. Satan can only get the best of you if you allow him to, and you only stop growing in Christ once you give into Satan.
Yep King David REPENTED as did Saul. The thing is we are talking of suicide, no one is perfect to the point to say "hey God, im ready now here I come" and kills themselves. The thing is that all the men you mentioned changed greatly and even then seeing they were near perfect or even perfect, still stated that we all must run the race.Peter later on was beheaded for Christ, all the men you named were near perfect. You cant take the short cut and say, why not just kill myself. That is Satanic.
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Your problem is your stuck on a gospel of works, and I am here to tell you. You will not make it to heaven if your trying to earn your way. If a person accepts Christ as their savior. and are born of God, they will get to heaven. Not you, or I or anyone else can change that. Jesus said all sin WILL (not might) be forgiven men. all but one, rejecting the gospel. suicide is sin, it is not rejecting the gospel. which means it can and will be forgiven.
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sin is sin is sin. What if I got drunk and got killed because of my drunkedness. what if you are in trafic and get angry, and do to road rage you get in an accident and are killed. What is the difference? You still have sinned right before death, Sin is Sin is Sin. Christ paid for sin, including the sin of suicide. David was not saved because he repented of two sins, He was saved because he understood he was not perfect and Knew his savior would come take his sin.
The bible says in 1 John 1:9 that "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness". An unrepented sin will lead to spiritual death--separation from God in eternity. Romans 6:23.
Proverbs 28:13- He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. I think suicide will be very difficult, if not impossible, to confess in other to be forgiven. If the person does not succeed in the attempted suicide then there is still chance of repentance, but if they do succeed that's it, because there is no repentance and forgiveness once the last breath is drawn and the bible says it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (Heb 9:27).
I know this is a very sensitive topic. I am in no way trying to cast judgment but only speaking according to the word of God. God is the judge. Suicide is Satan's solution and, like alcohol or drug abuse, does not just affect the individual but also the people around them (loved ones) through emotional pain. God has promised to supply all our needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus; our responsibility is to believe in His word because He is unfailing. Jeremiah 29:12- Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
Proverbs 28:13- He that covereth his sins shall not prosper: but whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall have mercy. I think suicide will be very difficult, if not impossible, to confess in other to be forgiven. If the person does not succeed in the attempted suicide then there is still chance of repentance, but if they do succeed that's it, because there is no repentance and forgiveness once the last breath is drawn and the bible says it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment (Heb 9:27).
I know this is a very sensitive topic. I am in no way trying to cast judgment but only speaking according to the word of God. God is the judge. Suicide is Satan's solution and, like alcohol or drug abuse, does not just affect the individual but also the people around them (loved ones) through emotional pain. God has promised to supply all our needs according to His riches in glory by Christ Jesus; our responsibility is to believe in His word because He is unfailing. Jeremiah 29:12- Then shall ye call upon me, and ye shall go and pray unto me, and I will hearken unto you.
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No one will make it to heaven then. There is no way possible you could ever confess every sin you commit. Nor is there any way you can even KNOW every sin you commit.
If we have to confess after every sin, we are under law and not under grace. Why do you people want to fall under law when scripture is clear it will not save you?
If we have to confess after every sin, we are under law and not under grace. Why do you people want to fall under law when scripture is clear it will not save you?
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Wow. So you think I would tell someone it is ok? Let me guess, I would tell them it is ok to commit murder also right? you people amaze me. I would never tell someone they should do such a thing. I would try to help them. But I would not play God and say if they did commit suicide they were going to hell. Who died and made you people God. NOTHING CAN SEPARATE US FROM GODS LOVE. NOTHING MEANS NOTHINGS. If you don;t like what God says about his love, thats your problem.
Romans 10:5-7 Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’” (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’”] that is, to bring Christ up from the dead.
Romans 14:4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
Romans 14:4Who are you to judge someone else's servant? To his own master he stands or falls. And he will stand, for the Lord is able to make him stand.
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Im not sure what to make out of everyone's statement, but if i can a point from someone who was suicidal. I know this doesnt apply to everyone, but hopefully I can help out a little.
Suicide isnt something just 'happens'. There is usually a series of a time span, that collects to a person to do this. For a moment, im going to change the scene,
We have a normal kid here about 18. He graduates High School, and decides too join the Army. He goes, does boot camp. He is then shipped off to Vietnam. He spends a couple of years in the jungle. Watches his buddies get blown up. Has to shoot up some Vietcong families and kids while he is at it. Survives and comes back to America. He is home now. Or is he? That one kid who was once normal, cant even stand the fact of being home. The nightmares. The screams. The bad dreams. This is ALL too real for most. He cant even get a glass of water without problems. This people is a recipe for suicide or some serious meds. This didnt happen to all vets, but yet this story is all to common, so I mean no disrespect.
Or lets take another look. Lets look at someone that may 'think' he/she can drive, but after 15 beers, he really cant. In his mind, yes, ours no. Suicide is like this as well. When your mind is not your own. When is has changed for a number of reasons. People who are 'ok' dont commit suicide.
I was one of the lucky ones that God was watching that day. Ive spent a number of years praying to God as a child. By the time I hit 12, and was ready to just end it, thats when he stepped in. Ive been there. Ive seen it, felt it, heard it. There isnt a scripture that has been mentioned, in the Heat of that moment, can help. Mind is already making judgement errors, very similar to someone trying to drive normally after 15 beers. Impossible.
People who do this, cant see the light. They didnt have God there deep, in their hearts. If God didnt do what he did, I would not be here today. Dead at 12? Not cool. And not seeing any hope was like being given a piece of wood, all warped, then being told you have to make a Harp out of this piece of junk wood. Sadly you cant just though it out, and it will never work so just put it down. Thats suicide. Having no options. I hope I didnt get anyone angry who may suffer in other ways. Trying to make one point a certain way.
Suicide isnt something just 'happens'. There is usually a series of a time span, that collects to a person to do this. For a moment, im going to change the scene,
We have a normal kid here about 18. He graduates High School, and decides too join the Army. He goes, does boot camp. He is then shipped off to Vietnam. He spends a couple of years in the jungle. Watches his buddies get blown up. Has to shoot up some Vietcong families and kids while he is at it. Survives and comes back to America. He is home now. Or is he? That one kid who was once normal, cant even stand the fact of being home. The nightmares. The screams. The bad dreams. This is ALL too real for most. He cant even get a glass of water without problems. This people is a recipe for suicide or some serious meds. This didnt happen to all vets, but yet this story is all to common, so I mean no disrespect.
Or lets take another look. Lets look at someone that may 'think' he/she can drive, but after 15 beers, he really cant. In his mind, yes, ours no. Suicide is like this as well. When your mind is not your own. When is has changed for a number of reasons. People who are 'ok' dont commit suicide.
I was one of the lucky ones that God was watching that day. Ive spent a number of years praying to God as a child. By the time I hit 12, and was ready to just end it, thats when he stepped in. Ive been there. Ive seen it, felt it, heard it. There isnt a scripture that has been mentioned, in the Heat of that moment, can help. Mind is already making judgement errors, very similar to someone trying to drive normally after 15 beers. Impossible.
People who do this, cant see the light. They didnt have God there deep, in their hearts. If God didnt do what he did, I would not be here today. Dead at 12? Not cool. And not seeing any hope was like being given a piece of wood, all warped, then being told you have to make a Harp out of this piece of junk wood. Sadly you cant just though it out, and it will never work so just put it down. Thats suicide. Having no options. I hope I didnt get anyone angry who may suffer in other ways. Trying to make one point a certain way.
Sir, no one is preaching a doctrine of salvation by works or being under the law. Please get this out of your mind.
A believer will know when they err but if it's committed due to ignorance, the Holy Spirit will to guide them and reveal to them their faults through the word of God, other people, personal conviction, etc. In addition, when a true believer sins there conscience will not be at peace until they cry unto God for forgiveness.
King David knew that if he covers his sins, he will not be forgiven that is why he asked God to search his heart. Psalm 139:23-24- Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Ask God to transform you and remove that heart that is so prone to falling into temptation to sin, ask Him to remove the heart that does not want to yield to the Spirit of God. (Ezekiel 36:26-A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh) God will give you a sanctified heart that wants to do His will continually.
It all boils down to being spiritually matured, sanctified, and walking in newness of life, rather than being stuck in the cycle of sinning and repenting.
Now about grace.
Grace is not the license to sin as some have turned it into.
Several passages in the bible hint to these: "No one can serve two masters,...remission of sins that are past, be ye holy for I am holy", yet people keep denying this and preaching that it is possible to live in sin and still be saved. People keep saying that sins committed after initial conversion are already forgiven. The scripture says that if one does not confess those sins committed after initial conversion, they will not be forgiven and thus are in danger of hell.
Should we say "because I got converted today I can commit sin tomorrow (no matter how heinous it is, mass murder tomorrow= forgiven, adultery tomorrow= forgiven) and still be forgiven of it, washed by the blood of Christ, cleanse and worthy to inherit His kingdom". Should we say "Jesus said it is finished on the cross so no matter what kind of life I live after initial conversion I am saved" or "the grace of God covers me while I'm in sin"? Is this how we should belittle God's saving grace? This is just mocking God's grace. You, sir, may not have this notion of grace but I guarantee you some people do think of it this way because of OSAS doctrine.
These doctrines of OSAS, forgiveness of future sins, etc, are putting people in the bondage of sin and pulling people to hell; Jesus Christ and the Apostles did not teach these doctrines. As long as you continue following Jesus by His grace you have eternal life but if you decide to go back to your former lusts which you once confessed and repented of, unfortunately you are back in Satan's captivity.
A believer will know when they err but if it's committed due to ignorance, the Holy Spirit will to guide them and reveal to them their faults through the word of God, other people, personal conviction, etc. In addition, when a true believer sins there conscience will not be at peace until they cry unto God for forgiveness.
King David knew that if he covers his sins, he will not be forgiven that is why he asked God to search his heart. Psalm 139:23-24- Search me, O God, and know my heart: try me, and know my thoughts: And see if there be any wicked way in me, and lead me in the way everlasting. Ask God to transform you and remove that heart that is so prone to falling into temptation to sin, ask Him to remove the heart that does not want to yield to the Spirit of God. (Ezekiel 36:26-A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh) God will give you a sanctified heart that wants to do His will continually.
It all boils down to being spiritually matured, sanctified, and walking in newness of life, rather than being stuck in the cycle of sinning and repenting.
Now about grace.
Grace is not the license to sin as some have turned it into.
Several passages in the bible hint to these: "No one can serve two masters,...remission of sins that are past, be ye holy for I am holy", yet people keep denying this and preaching that it is possible to live in sin and still be saved. People keep saying that sins committed after initial conversion are already forgiven. The scripture says that if one does not confess those sins committed after initial conversion, they will not be forgiven and thus are in danger of hell.
Should we say "because I got converted today I can commit sin tomorrow (no matter how heinous it is, mass murder tomorrow= forgiven, adultery tomorrow= forgiven) and still be forgiven of it, washed by the blood of Christ, cleanse and worthy to inherit His kingdom". Should we say "Jesus said it is finished on the cross so no matter what kind of life I live after initial conversion I am saved" or "the grace of God covers me while I'm in sin"? Is this how we should belittle God's saving grace? This is just mocking God's grace. You, sir, may not have this notion of grace but I guarantee you some people do think of it this way because of OSAS doctrine.
These doctrines of OSAS, forgiveness of future sins, etc, are putting people in the bondage of sin and pulling people to hell; Jesus Christ and the Apostles did not teach these doctrines. As long as you continue following Jesus by His grace you have eternal life but if you decide to go back to your former lusts which you once confessed and repented of, unfortunately you are back in Satan's captivity.
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Powerful, powerful Truth, starryfields !!!!
Yes. Where sin aBOUNDS, grace ABOUNDS more. «Paul says. But it's not an infinite amount IF you really read into the words, it just speaks of great is God's grace.
God's forviveness of our sins ONCE we drop them at His feet is thorough, complete, infinite. That sin is dropped from God's mind, disappeared, glub-glub, to the 'bottom of the sea,' sailing to sayanara, 'far as east is from the west.'
But then you go and mess up again, and, let's not be coy, Christ peeps and Christ peepettes, a believer knows when they their flesh gets the best of them, because God puts that 'flesh' on corrective control, understanding put on their heart in a Loving way, NOT convicting in a 'guilt' sense, but, nevertheless, showing us our where we chose sin over Him. God corrects our errror, our sin, with Himself who is Christ living in us, with discipline and Love mixed in with a dash of grace or mercy or BOTH administered . And, get this, YOU are so covered that yet you sin it is being covered as soon as you are in agreement with God to cleanse self 1 John 1:9.
Okee, I've run a bit off topic but I was speaking to my buddy, dothack, yesterday on c.c. in singles forum and he mentioned Romans 7:7-8 , and, Starry just said 'newness of life,' which is close to the verse I put on, thank you, Jesus, so I will list it again.
7:6 - ” but now we have been released from the la I think I do that which we were down so that we certainly miss of the spirit and not in oldness of the letter. ”
We serve Christ from being born again of Christ, right, the Law is still there, we ARE to obey man's laws, too, don't get this wrong, BUT, Christ born in us means all things old pass away we become with a newness of life through Christ born into us and being Holy Spirit filled.
And, I leave you all with more 'newness,' from.Romans 6:4 , and, hopefully, someone reading this with thoughts of suicide can see how easy it is to accept Christ and be filled with ever-Loving by Him for the rest of their many great years just learning daily of Him, knowing His mercies are new every morning
6:4 - therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we, too, might walk in newness of life.”
By becoming baptized into His death, we become crucified with Christ, FREE OF SIN, we are, as weird as this might seem, born of God, born of a new being that does not walk in sin no more, does not live in sin no more. Our faith saved us from the bondage of sin and death, there's more to the story after Christ dies on the cross, and, rises again, OH, so much more, the bible does not just stop after Matthew, Mark, Luke, John!! Our obedience to read His Word and to understand His given Spirit to help us after Jesus'death/resurrection/ascension sets us FREE
Yes. Where sin aBOUNDS, grace ABOUNDS more. «Paul says. But it's not an infinite amount IF you really read into the words, it just speaks of great is God's grace.
God's forviveness of our sins ONCE we drop them at His feet is thorough, complete, infinite. That sin is dropped from God's mind, disappeared, glub-glub, to the 'bottom of the sea,' sailing to sayanara, 'far as east is from the west.'
But then you go and mess up again, and, let's not be coy, Christ peeps and Christ peepettes, a believer knows when they their flesh gets the best of them, because God puts that 'flesh' on corrective control, understanding put on their heart in a Loving way, NOT convicting in a 'guilt' sense, but, nevertheless, showing us our where we chose sin over Him. God corrects our errror, our sin, with Himself who is Christ living in us, with discipline and Love mixed in with a dash of grace or mercy or BOTH administered . And, get this, YOU are so covered that yet you sin it is being covered as soon as you are in agreement with God to cleanse self 1 John 1:9.
Okee, I've run a bit off topic but I was speaking to my buddy, dothack, yesterday on c.c. in singles forum and he mentioned Romans 7:7-8 , and, Starry just said 'newness of life,' which is close to the verse I put on, thank you, Jesus, so I will list it again.
7:6 - ” but now we have been released from the la I think I do that which we were down so that we certainly miss of the spirit and not in oldness of the letter. ”
We serve Christ from being born again of Christ, right, the Law is still there, we ARE to obey man's laws, too, don't get this wrong, BUT, Christ born in us means all things old pass away we become with a newness of life through Christ born into us and being Holy Spirit filled.
And, I leave you all with more 'newness,' from.Romans 6:4 , and, hopefully, someone reading this with thoughts of suicide can see how easy it is to accept Christ and be filled with ever-Loving by Him for the rest of their many great years just learning daily of Him, knowing His mercies are new every morning
6:4 - therefore we have been buried with him through baptism into death, in order that as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, so we, too, might walk in newness of life.”
By becoming baptized into His death, we become crucified with Christ, FREE OF SIN, we are, as weird as this might seem, born of God, born of a new being that does not walk in sin no more, does not live in sin no more. Our faith saved us from the bondage of sin and death, there's more to the story after Christ dies on the cross, and, rises again, OH, so much more, the bible does not just stop after Matthew, Mark, Luke, John!! Our obedience to read His Word and to understand His given Spirit to help us after Jesus'death/resurrection/ascension sets us FREE
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There are notables who committed suicide mentioned in the Word. For the moment only two come to mind, King Saul and his armour bearer. I cannot speak for the armour bearer, but Saul was given a proper burial and lamented as though he had simply passed on. True he was wounded already and did not want the Philistines to capture him, but with the thinking of many here, he went straight to hell. Saul made a grave error in life, but he paid for it in life. However, people here have already begun to reign without our King here, I suppose you know what you are doing in judging. I will wait for the thrones to be set up and for judgment to be handed over to the saints of Yahweh, God.
As for the armour bearer, I hope to say hello to him in the Kingdom.
Yahweh, God, bless all who are in Yeshua, Jesus, and who keep His teaching. By the way torah means teaching. So I bless all in the name of Jesus, Yeshua, who keep His torah, amen.
As for the armour bearer, I hope to say hello to him in the Kingdom.
Yahweh, God, bless all who are in Yeshua, Jesus, and who keep His teaching. By the way torah means teaching. So I bless all in the name of Jesus, Yeshua, who keep His torah, amen.
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There are wonderful replies and opinions written like starfield and HeIsTheIAm. God bless them and blessed be God Himself for the understanding He has given them and may the Lord bless others as well.
Understanding the reason for suicide is very simple. Well, is God who tells a man to commit suicide or the devil? Why do you have so many rock songs promoting suicide? Whose voice was the victim of suicide obedient to? Who told the person that he/she is useless and there is no hope except to end his/her life? Is it God or satan? I can at least say here with confident that it is NOT GOD (I am sure I am not playing God here) but it is the enemy, who is looking to destroy you.
What makes the person suicidal? Is it godly sorrow or worldly sorrow?
2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Again, I am sure it is not godly sorrow that leads one to commit suicide but it is worldly, sensual and devilish. There are evil spirits in this world who are lurking around, looking whom to destroy. Do you think that they do it only outwardly? No, but they posses a person's soul and torment them. They bring lot of changes, spiritually, mentally and physically. They control the lives of people. The Lord has not given satan to take our lives though. He may bring us disappointments, pain and suffering in our lives but never can take our lives but he will make you or convince you to end your life. This is the best he can do. Satan always wants you to end life so that there is no chance for repentance, lest you should be forgiven and enter into God's eternal glory. I haven't seen one person who is happy and smiling, who goes and ends his/her life, just like that.... except the person is mentally unstable. Satan's call of killing was heard by Saul, in the Bible.
We say our life is in Christ Jesus and yet, can we make our own choices, choices that cannot be changed later?
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the lifewhich I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
........and can this life of faith of the Son of God can be put to an end at our own will by giving heed to satan's call? and he that has not the Son hath not the eternal life so there is no question of the person going to heaven because the Life of the Son which was in the victim was despised & rejected. The grace, by which a man can be saved was trodden under foot.
If a person commits suicide and dies as an unbeliever, then he/she dies without the Eternal Life. If a person commits suicide and dies as a Christian, then I think it is worse because, this person did not only not believe but also despised and rejected the words of the Son of God, the Eternal Life and also heeded and obeyed the voice of satan by believing in this liar.
The only thing that keeps a Christian from committing suicide is the fear of ending up in hell and if you Christians take that fear out by giving them the false assurance of Eternal Life even after they have committed this crime then you are the cause for their eternal death. The Lord will require that blood from you.
People, do not believe the lies of satan. If you feel suicidal, it is the devil who is working in you and not God. It is the devil who is calling you. Repent and run into His fortress where there is peace and love and above all abundant LIFE and not death. He wants you to live. He has hope for you. Just wait patiently on the Lord and He will give you peace, the peace that the world cannot understand for He is the Prince of peace. Believe me for these are the words of God.
You don't have to die because God loved you so much that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Psalms 31:24 Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in the LORD.
May the good Lord bless you all.
Understanding the reason for suicide is very simple. Well, is God who tells a man to commit suicide or the devil? Why do you have so many rock songs promoting suicide? Whose voice was the victim of suicide obedient to? Who told the person that he/she is useless and there is no hope except to end his/her life? Is it God or satan? I can at least say here with confident that it is NOT GOD (I am sure I am not playing God here) but it is the enemy, who is looking to destroy you.
What makes the person suicidal? Is it godly sorrow or worldly sorrow?
2 Corinthians 7:10 For godly sorrow worketh repentance to salvation not to be repented of: but the sorrow of the world worketh death.
Again, I am sure it is not godly sorrow that leads one to commit suicide but it is worldly, sensual and devilish. There are evil spirits in this world who are lurking around, looking whom to destroy. Do you think that they do it only outwardly? No, but they posses a person's soul and torment them. They bring lot of changes, spiritually, mentally and physically. They control the lives of people. The Lord has not given satan to take our lives though. He may bring us disappointments, pain and suffering in our lives but never can take our lives but he will make you or convince you to end your life. This is the best he can do. Satan always wants you to end life so that there is no chance for repentance, lest you should be forgiven and enter into God's eternal glory. I haven't seen one person who is happy and smiling, who goes and ends his/her life, just like that.... except the person is mentally unstable. Satan's call of killing was heard by Saul, in the Bible.
We say our life is in Christ Jesus and yet, can we make our own choices, choices that cannot be changed later?
Galatians 2:20 I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the lifewhich I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
........and can this life of faith of the Son of God can be put to an end at our own will by giving heed to satan's call? and he that has not the Son hath not the eternal life so there is no question of the person going to heaven because the Life of the Son which was in the victim was despised & rejected. The grace, by which a man can be saved was trodden under foot.
If a person commits suicide and dies as an unbeliever, then he/she dies without the Eternal Life. If a person commits suicide and dies as a Christian, then I think it is worse because, this person did not only not believe but also despised and rejected the words of the Son of God, the Eternal Life and also heeded and obeyed the voice of satan by believing in this liar.
The only thing that keeps a Christian from committing suicide is the fear of ending up in hell and if you Christians take that fear out by giving them the false assurance of Eternal Life even after they have committed this crime then you are the cause for their eternal death. The Lord will require that blood from you.
People, do not believe the lies of satan. If you feel suicidal, it is the devil who is working in you and not God. It is the devil who is calling you. Repent and run into His fortress where there is peace and love and above all abundant LIFE and not death. He wants you to live. He has hope for you. Just wait patiently on the Lord and He will give you peace, the peace that the world cannot understand for He is the Prince of peace. Believe me for these are the words of God.
You don't have to die because God loved you so much that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Psalms 31:24 Be of good courage, and he shall strengthen your heart, all ye that hope in the LORD.
May the good Lord bless you all.
It is just as easy to quote the Word in favor of individuals who may commit suicide. It is written in several instances Yahweh, God, will in no wise turn away a broken heart and a contrite spirit. He is compassionate, and He knows our frame. If a believer is in such pain and sorrow, perhaps in fear also, and in a weak moment he commits one act, suicide, do you honestly believe our Father is so petty as to add to the pain and suffering of a believer who had a weak moment and sinned once? Yahweh, God, forgave many of multiple murders, and you believe suicide due to unbearable pain combined with a weak moment is unforgivable, according to how you interpret scripture? I think not. If the Son of Man came to forgive and not to condemn, if He desires mercy and not sacrifice, I think the least we all can do while we are here is follow His example and think in merciful terms toward these victims. Let us all have mercy in our minds, hearts and souls, and save that final judgment for Yahweh's Day. All saints will be on thrones set up for them and then, only then, will judgment be handed over to them. Until that wonderful Day of Yahweh, God, we are never to judge others to condemnation. Also, there is not a word against suicide in the Book.
There should be mature believers all over this site making comment against your sentimentality concerning this issue of life and death that belongs only to the Lord. God has never condoned, approved, sanctioned or encouraged anyone, a believer or otherwise, to take their own life because things are too difficult and too hard to bear. Don't tell me that you know Yeshua and what He thinks about life and death when you make comment like this, because you are far off from the life of Yeshua on this. God does not give mercy or grace to anyone to commit suicide, only a fool would think such a thing. God is in the business of giving life, resurrected life and not in the business of sending people to the grave without hope or in despair. What humanistic egg shell did you crawl out from? Someone needs to follow up on you when you start saying things like this. Are you going to be the next Kevorkian and encourage your discouraged brother that it's okay, God understands and if you want to end it now, God will accept you. That is nothing more than humanistic ungodly counsel and we are not to stand in the counsel of the ungodly (Ps 1:1). You need to wise up in the life of our resurrected and ascended Saviour instead of living in your own deluded and misguided imaginations of Yeshua.