The Anti-Christ Will Be a Man or Islam?

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Man or Islam

  • Man

    Votes: 22 95.7%
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Feb 9, 2010
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#21
The antichrist will be a man who will claim to Be God and say he is above all their religions and be above all their Gods.

His agenda will be it is all about man with no governmental or religious authority above them and will not worship a personal God but acknowledge the God of forces and be a nature worshipper who will convince the world that he has tapped in to nature the Cosmos and received power.

So the antichrist or the beast will not recognize any God or religion and man is the highest power who can tap in to nature to achieve that power.

He will want the falling of all governments and religions.

The Bible also says that he will come from the Roman Empire who will come to power at the last days as the powerbase of the antichrist which the Roman Empire will cause all nations to come together.
 
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1Jn 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
1Jn 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
2Jn 1:7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.

As we can see from the above verses antichrist is a spirit. It inhabits those who deny Christ making them antichrists also. Not a single verse that uses the term antichrist suggests antichrist is an endtime world leader.

Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.
As we can see from Dan7:23 in the figurative (or symbolic) language of prophecy beasts represent kingdoms. If the unchanging God/Word tells us beasts are kingdoms in Daniel they will still be kingdoms in Revelation.

Can anyone show where God changed the definition of beasts or antichrists? If not then shouldn’t we use the definitions Scripture supplies and recognize that beasts are kingdoms and antichrists are those that deny Christ? After all that is what Scripture says!

So is the leopard, bear, lion beast the spiritual kingdom of islam? Daniel’s lion was Babylon, now occupied by Iraq, the bear was Medo-Persia now occupied by Iran, and the leopard was Greece now occupied by Syria/Lebanon (all Islamic controlled countries). The spiritual kingdom of islam is united by the spirit of antichrist as a result of the 23 year record of an illiterate 7[SUP]th[/SUP] century lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) false prophet that has been leading mohammad’s followers to perdition for 1400 years now as a result of teaching them God has no Son. Despite the fact that islam is not united by a living person they are united by the spirit of antichrist that results in them following a 7[SUP]th[/SUP] century illiterate, lying, thieving, murdering child doing (per islams own writings) in his quest to use violence (beheading preferred) to force the world to submit to islam. Sadly as world events (22,000+ Islamic terrorist attacks since 9/11/2001) demonstrate they do not need anyone but their dead 7[SUP]th[/SUP] century, illiterate, lying, thieving, murdering, child doing (per islams own writings) mohammad and the spirit of antichrist that inhabits all mohammads followers that believe God has no Son to wage an effective jihad on the world as they try to force the world to submit to islam. The ottoman empire (head with deadly wound) is being revived and sadly most fail to recognize the beast is flexing it’s muscles preparing to pounce and take our heads.

For those interested in seeing a hermeneutically sound interpretation of Scripture demonstrating islam is the beast please read the free online book The False Prophet <click


May God bless your studies!
 
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Something really interesting is that earlier in revelation 11 John is given a Reed to measure the temple with and in rev 21 John is carried away by one of the seven angels to whom was given a reed to measure the temple with. Also read rev 21 then immediately read rev 17. It's the same thing with two confusing visions. To me the lesson has something to do with John confusing him help by listening to himself or he is intentionally being confused by those leading him. The temple is described using different things in each but it's the same temple. Also reading up on the God named AMMIT and the principle of MAAT. ANUBUS and OSIRIS. THE 7 WONDERS OF EGYPT AND THE TEN GREAT PHAROAHS. Oh and don't forget the 7 plagues of egypt and the 7 souls(6 not including the body). Read about the second death, lake of fire, the dragon, all the beast ....etc OR you can continue this confusion and chaos for eternity. That dragon is the bringer of confusion and chaos and if you want to put your finger on him READ!!! Or you can post more youtube vids! They are entertaining
 

Angela53510

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I'm looking for the NEITHER button!

Why people get so worked up about something that doesn't matter is beyond me.

Follow Christ, and you will never have to worry.

And for those worried about persecution!! People are being persecuted all over the world right now. On death row, like the American pastor in Iran, for his faith. Those are daily occurrences of people who are "against" Christ!
 
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There will be a man claiming to be God who will be Satan inhabiting a human body to deceive the world which is known as the little horn in Daniel 7,the man of sin,the antichrist,and the beast.

[SUP]23[/SUP] And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up.
[SUP]24[/SUP] And his power shall be mighty, but not by his own power: and he shall destroy wonderfully, and shall prosper, and practise, and shall destroy the mighty and the holy people.
[SUP]25[/SUP] And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand(Daniel 8:23-25).

This is when the transgressors come to the full in the latter times which is during the beast kingdom in Revelation which a man of fierce countenance,and understanding dark sentences will be ruler of the world who is the antichrist who will be Satan inhabiting a human body to deceive the world.

[SUP]3[/SUP] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world(1 John 4:3).

If you notice in this verse that it states that antichrist is still to come which is the man of sin,the antichrist,that will deceive the world.

John is saying that the spirit of antichrist is in the world but that spirit of antichrist is still to come in the future as a man that will deceive the world.

If the spirit of antichrist was working in the world at the time John wrote that verse then why would John write that it is still to come which would mean that it would be more than just the spirit of antichrist in the world but a man that will be the antichrist that will deceive the world.


 
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Ever since I saw a video in a thread that was made a few days ago, I became intrigued with the possibility that the anti-Christ spoken in Revelation is not a single man, but rather a system, or religion--Islam.

I'm not sure what to think anymore but this man gives an interesting view of what he thinks "666" means (he is the same man in the video I saw previously, Walid Shoebat). Now, granted someone may easily refute this, and I have not done any more research on this subject, so I am not sold 100% on this. But I would just like to get a feel for what others think after seeing this video:
I have a rhetorical question for you. Is the number 666 Satan's number, or mans number? Just something to think about, knowing how deceptive Satan can be.

Read EZEKIEL 28: 11-19 Satan rules Tyrus, and EZEKIEL 26:2-15
The sea represents the world. Think about it all as related to this day we are living in.

Before describing the attributes of our adversary I MUST clarify that our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ (Yeshua Messiah) has all power. As you read the following, please keep this in mind, for it will be your comfort, and give you peace of mind. (Matthew 28:18-20)

Attributes of Azazel (Satan/Lucifer) how he uses his power after being cast out of heaven.

1.Sadius-Had the power (emphasize HAD) to maintain God’s creation but not to change the principles of the established cycles of perfection. (Ephesians 6:12)

2.Topaz-curiosity i.e. the instigation of evolution, extra terrestrial space ships, mysticism, UFOs and etc.
(Ephesians 4:14, 2 Peter 2:16)

3.Diamond-Repeats God’s Word in order to entice a person into disobedience.
(2 Corinthians 11:14-15, Luke 4:2-13)

4.Beryl-The power to interfere with a believers mission.
(1 Thessalonians 2:18)

5.Onyx-the understanding of the creation of the physical/natural in detail. If the law isn’t seen spiritually it is of no use.
(Matthew 16:2-4, Galatians 3:19, John 5:44-47, John 8:42-45)

6.Jasper-the power to entice with fleshly attractiveness.
(1 John 2:16-17)

7.Sapphire-the capability to instigate a desire, and planning in detail how to achieve it through manipulation.
(Isaiah 32:6-7) Churl-KJV-that act of withholding information. Our administration in Washington. This is serious and blatant to the true believer in Messiah Yeshua

8.Emerald-the capability to readjust (temporarily) the balance of the universe
(Revelation 13:6-14)

9.Carbuncle-has complete understanding of the 5 senses of the human being henceforth altering perceptions of our natural world by instructing in a distorted manner, defining those distortions as common sense decisions.
(Matthew 24:24)

Keeping in mind Matthew 28:18-20, Our Savior overrides these powers of evil for those that pursue His salvation in fear, prayer, and loving Him with all our heart, soul, mind, and strength. There are 3 stones belonging to our Savior that Azazel does NOT have.

10. Ligure- The power to redeem (Romans 3:21-26)

11. Agate- The power to separate in every detail (Hebrews 4:9-14)

12. Amethyst- The power to fulfill and lead (Matthew 5:17)

Loud and clear is our message to the world until we die (Joshua 24:15 and 16)
 
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1620 days=3.5 years="""42 months"""....There are 42 "commandments" so to speak that the ten commandment were taken directly out of and those are worshiping are only keeping 10 of 42. This is directly connected to the God MAAT, the weight of the heart, and the second death. There are numerous warnings of 42 in rev. 3.5 days, 3.5 years, 1620 days, and 42 months.
 
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I am not sure I understand how Islam could possibly deceive Christians.
They are very polarized religions.

It is far more likely that a Buddist, or New Age guru, or some psychologist or impressive public speaker, or a political figure claiming Christianity...
some one like that who is less offensive to the "layman Christian" who is just going through the motions.

Islam is prophesied to be removed from the earth during or before the Tribulation according to Ezekiel.
 
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What if it's a Fallen Angel that take on a form of a man?
[SUP]Rev. 20:10 [/SUP]And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.


[SUP]Rev. 19:14 [/SUP]And the armies which were in heaven followed him upon white horses, clothed in fine linen, white and clean.

[SUP]15 [/SUP]And out of his mouth goeth a sharp sword, that with it he should smite the nations: and he shall rule them with a rod of iron: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God.
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And he hath on his vesture and on his thigh a name written, King Of Kings, And Lord Of Lords.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And I saw an angel standing in the sun; and he cried with a loud voice, saying to all the fowls that fly in the midst of heaven, Come and gather yourselves together unto the supper of the great God;
[SUP]18 [/SUP]That ye may eat the flesh of kings, and the flesh of captains, and the flesh of mighty men, and the flesh of horses, and of them that sit on them, and the flesh of all men, both free and bond, both small and great.
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.

[SUP]21 [/SUP]And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


A. They both don't go through the great white thrown judgement
[SUP]19 [/SUP]And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.

[SUP]20 [/SUP]And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.


B. They both don't die before being cast into the lake of fire. Also he slain the armies but not them.
These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
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21 [/SUP]And the remnant were slain with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, which sword proceeded out of his mouth: and all the fowls were filled with their flesh.


Gen. 6:1 And it came to pass, when men began to multiply on the face of the earth, and daughters were born unto them,

[SUP]2 [/SUP]That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And the Lord said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.
 

Shilo

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666 ?
[video=youtube;Lw7DnAo71Ks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw7DnAo71Ks[/video]
 
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666 ?
[video=youtube;Lw7DnAo71Ks]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lw7DnAo71Ks[/video]
no, this is very harmful teaching. do not get distracted by this.

the 'harlot' has to be a false church, because it deals with adultery... claiming to be the faithful bride of Christ, but actually following the idolatry of their own hearts.

the teaching as a whole is very manipulative, and reading into the prophecies instead of taking out of what is written.
 
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Only human can be the antichrist. I doesn't think the spirit of the antichrist will use an gorilla or a snake to do its work, because I believe if a snake comes down from a tree telling people that they will surely not die if they don't eat the Bread, that will make the people believe that there is a God. So basically the antichrist will possess men.
 

Shilo

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the 'harlot' has to be a false church, because it deals with adultery... claiming to be the faithful bride of Christ, but actually following the idolatry of their own hearts.
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I agree with you that the woman looks to be a false church, but the antichrist and his kings burn her up. So they only use the Harlot until they don't need her anymore.

Revelation 17 Then he said to me, “The waters which you saw, where the harlot sits, are peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues. [SUP]16 [/SUP]And the ten horns which you saw on[SUP][d][/SUP] the beast, these will hate the harlot, make her desolate and naked, eat her flesh and burn her with fire. [SUP]17 [/SUP]For God has put it into their hearts to fulfill His purpose, to be of one mind, and to give their kingdom to the beast, until the words of God are fulfilled. [SUP]18 [/SUP]And the woman whom you saw is that great city which reigns over the kings of the earth.”

there are only 3 power that I know of that had a deadly wound healed.

1 Catholic church. when the Pope died in prison it was thought to be the end of the church but it came back.
2 Germany after WW2 was cut in half. When Germany was reunited all the papers said the deadly wound was healed.
3 Islam went down in 1918 and has come back in our days.

The beast has to sit on peoples, multitudes, nations, and tongues just like the harlot. Only 2 of the 3 powers fit that The Catholic church and Islam
 
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Ever since I saw a video in a thread that was made a few days ago, I became intrigued with the possibility that the anti-Christ spoken in Revelation is not a single man, but rather a system, or religion--Islam.

I'm not sure what to think anymore but this man gives an interesting view of what he thinks "666" means (he is the same man in the video I saw previously, Walid Shoebat). Now, granted someone may easily refute this, and I have not done any more research on this subject, so I am not sold 100% on this. But I would just like to get a feel for what others think after seeing this video:

[video=youtube;vFw2KrI3mng]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFw2KrI3mng[/video]
Radius, you need to be reminded that the word anti-Christ does not occur in Revelation. Neither is there some one man only boogey man in this book. Walid Shoebat promotes this idea as a smokescreen, a smokescreen for those identified by the only applications of "anti-Christ" in scripture. Go to 1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7 and find the anti-Christ identified as a plurality, and by their theology. "An anti-Christ" is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, anyone who denies that Jesus (Messiah)---"is come in the flesh." Now, who does this sound like? Does it describe a future boogey man who betrays the Israelis, or does it sound more like the Israelis?
 
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Spokenpassage

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I believe the OP title was meant to mean the man of lawlessness, or the man of sin mentioned in 2 Thessalonians 2. When the great apostasy comes upon the world and the man of lawlessness comes in, then the tribulation will begin. Just as Jesus said in Matthew 24, that when the abomination of desolation is standing in the holy place, and Thessalonians about him claiming to be God and takes his seat in the temple of God. Horrible time. He will perform and show false signs and wonders. Good thing Jesus will come back and put an end to all of that, destroying him. Those who endure to the end shall be saved.

But I don't believe it's Islam, I believe it's a person under the working of Satan.
 
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Radius, you need to be reminded that the word anti-Christ does not occur in Revelation. Neither is there some one man only boogey man in this book. Walid Shoebat promotes this idea as a smokescreen, a smokescreen for those identified by the only applications of "anti-Christ" in scripture. Go to 1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7 and find the anti-Christ identified as a plurality, and by their theology. "An anti-Christ" is anyone who denies that Jesus is the Christ, anyone who denies that Jesus (Messiah)---"is come in the flesh." Now, who does this sound like? Does it describe a future boogey man who betrays the Israelis, or does it sound more like the Israelis?

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa? So, now the Jewish people is the antichrist? America denies Jesus, so maybe we are the antichrist?
 
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How Original Context Identifies the Anti-Christ

Who is a liar but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah). He is anti-Christ...1 John 2:22

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ (Messiah) is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ. 2 John v. 7

Now, where is that future dictator said to be "the Anti-Christ," and who betrays the Israelis? He is not in the context of the word anti-Christ (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7). Look it up! Recognize this truth! And stop repeating this word out of context (i.e., as a smokescreen for the Israelis).
 
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How Original Context Identifies the Anti-Christ

Who is a liar but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ (Messiah). He is anti-Christ...1 John 2:22

For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ (Messiah) is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an anti-Christ. 2 John v. 7

Now, where is that future dictator said to be "the Anti-Christ," and who betrays the Israelis? He is not in the context of the word anti-Christ (1 John 2:18, 22; 4:3; 2 John v. 7). Look it up! Recognize this truth! And stop repeating this word out of context (i.e., as a smokescreen for the Israelis).
1 John 2:18
Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that Antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.

See the distinction?
I don't understand why you saying this is a smokescreen, or out of context.