The Differences

[JaumeJ]

To different people, law, statutes, commandments and judgements can be the very same thing.

To search for God's intent was what brought me into understanding of his fatherly nature.

And it's there for the taking, or the creation of turmoil.

But the turmoil is not God's doing.

In the Word they are distinct. Different people do not believe the Gospel, however the truth may be inscribed on their hearts, thus we do not judge to condemnation, amen.

 

[psychomom]

I also love to study those laws that used to terrify me, because of being freed of the punishment of the law, death. All of this was done just for me (and for you) on the cross on Golgotha. Praise Yeshua Mashiach, amen.................The law no longer frightens anyone in Jesus, amen.

Yes! Amen!

Now I see the beauty of God's law!
The reason He gave it!
Now that its power needn't frighten me,
because I know the One Who kept it
perfectly (as I never could) and makes me stand,
righteous in the Father's eyes.

Now I see Jesus in the law!
Amazing grace, indeed.

 

[Abiding]

Let's bring it forth Abiding.........

hmmm....ummm... just seeing if you were paying attention

 

[JaumeJ]

I think Jack probably understands that many threads move in that way,
and he's adult enough that he doesn't take it personally.
(sorry to speak for you Jack, and please correct me.)

But I love that you defend your brother, Abiding.
That really is 'warm fuzzies', at least, to my heart it is. ♥

Looking back, it seems I do it all the time. I am easily distracted from a thread, but as long as the contribution is edifying, it really should not make a big impact on the condition of any thread? What do you think?

 

[psychomom]

Looking back, it seems I do it all the time. I am easily distracted from a thread, but as long as the contribution is edifying, it really should not make a big impact on the condition of any thread? What do you think?

I think you're right!

If it doesn't bring Light to someone (anyone )
it's not worth a hill o' beans, so to speak.

As long as the Truth is spoken in love...
as long as the Body of Christ is built up and edified...
as long as the Lord is magnified...

it's all good.
Thanks, Jack!
ps--pray for me about that Temple thread?
-el

 

[Abiding]

psychomom Hey your embarrasing me giving me too much
credit for just pure humor.

Although i do love Jack and would defend him any day.

 

[psychomom]

pure humor is rare enough, these days,
and oftentimes brings a certain...je ne sais quoi
to the situation.

i'd say comic relief, but it's bigger than that!

 

[Abiding]

.je ne sais quoi..ok i see i was flattering myself again.
comic relief+ it is

 

[RickShafer]

Did you use the term - "je ne sais quoi" phychomom?
.........if you can call up terms like that and spell them correctly
....you should give lessons.......you are like the phoenix of phonics.
- - - -I've got a book.........(and I'm quite stupid).............

 

[Abiding]

stupid? maybe we are related

 

[JaumeJ]

Bon, Psychomom, peut-etre nous devons poster seulement en français. Que penses-tu?
(I am using the Spanish keyboard, so please excuse the absence of the accent, circonflex.)

 

[RickShafer]

We are all numbly related Abiding.....except for phycomom and her recall
of perfect common french terms!
Maybe she can speak to Mediate(seeing as he's english) - and across the channel!!
Maybe she can reason with him,....'cause I certainly can't.

 

[RickShafer]

Je ne sais Qwhat!?!@!!
(I didn't get that - - - - Houston.....noncopy)

 

[Red33]

Rom 7:22 For I delight in the law of God after the inward man.

The inner man of the believer is being strengthened and renewed by the Spirit through the grace and knowledge that is in Christ (Eph 3:16, 2Cor 4:16, Eph 4:23, Col 3:10). The inner man is involved in a transformation while the outer or old man is conforming through the flesh. The inner man receives the righteousness of God, imputed and imparted, in being transformed through grace and truth by the Spirit but the outer man of the flesh is trying to conform to mandates prescribed by the law to gain righteousness and a life that is pleasing to God. There is a major difference here because one is accepted by God being done through faith and the other is rejected by God being done through the flesh. Only in the inner man through the Spirit can a man receive the righteousness of God justified by faith. The outer or old man can only live through the deeds of the law in hopes of attaining a relevant righteousness that will be justified through the works of the law.

Rom 9:30-33
30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith.
31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness.
32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumbling-stone;
33 As it is written, Behold, I lay in Sion a stumbling-stone and rock of offence: and whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed.

Gal 2:16-19
16 Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
17 But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
18 For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
19 For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.

Gal 3:12
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

Phil 3:9
9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith:

Our righteousness and justification is found in Christ and not in one jot or tittle of the law, nor in any of the differences pointed out in the OP. Christ fulfilled the law and we are in Christ and have His righteousness by faith and not according to the law or any works or observations thereby. My zeal and jealousy is in Christ and not the law. The inner man in me delights in the law not to attain unto any righteousness thereby but to have the the fulfillment of the law through Christ who dwells in me. HE IS MY RIGHTEOUSNESS, NOT THE LAW!

He condemned sin in His own flesh, not the law. We are dead to the law because of Christ and all of our righteousness is in Him and comes through Him by faith through the Spirit of grace and truth. Our obedience is to Christ and not in keeping the law. As we abide in Him and His words abide in us (the inner man) the Spirit will lead and guide us and we will delight in the law of the Spirit of life after the inner man. The Spirit is the one who is revealing in us the grace and truth of the law and not the letter of it and this is after the inner man and we are transformed and renewed as a new creature in Christ, in true righteousness and holiness (Eph 4:24)...

24 And that ye put on the new man, which after God is created in righteousness and true holiness.

 

[psychomom]

Bon, Psychomom, peut-etre nous devons poster seulement en français. Que penses-tu?
(I am using the Spanish keyboard, so please excuse the absence of the accent, circonflex.)

Je crois que...
whoops!
I think we will be asked to leave, since English only is one the Da Rulez.

Hopefully, the mods will forgive an idiom or two...

 

[Abiding]

Oh no the rule is to speak English?
Noone told me, and i can only speak American.
I hope that slides.

 

[loveme1]

Don't talk to Median like that loveme1; he understands that God is the one big turning "Love" wheel.
And we are all but buds on the ever growing flowers it spins off.
(I thing his is next to Hitler's).
"We'll all hold hands in the sunrise....and watch from the bottom of the sea." - That is what Mediate is saying.

I may of spoken too harshly... and should of used Scripture.

Colossians 2

For I would that ye knew what great conflict I have for you, and for them at Laodicea, and for as many as have not seen my face in the flesh; 2That their hearts might be comforted, being knit together in love, and unto all riches of the full assurance of understanding, to the acknowledgement of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. 4And this I say, lest any man should beguile you with enticing words. 5For though I be absent in the flesh, yet am I with you in the spirit, joying and beholding your order, and the stedfastness of your faith in Christ.
6As ye have therefore received Christ Jesus the Lord, so walk ye in him: 7Rooted and built up in him, and stablished in the faith, as ye have been taught, abounding therein with thanksgiving.

8Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. 9For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. 10And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power: 11In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ: 12Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead. 13And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses; 14Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross; 15And having spoiled principalities and powers, he made a shew of them openly, triumphing over them in it.

 

[loveme1]

Please accept my apology for going off topic today, i consider i could of simply scrolled past the comments that i replied on.

Mediate to you also i apologize for making that comment i could of held my peace.

you will adhere to what you will, even if i do not appreciate it.

 

[Mediate]

in response to mediate and his philosophies.

There is no free lancing, you either accept all things written in the Holy Bible or you do not.

'For the letter brings death, but the spirit brings life'.

'Even as I am bound in chains, the word of God is not bound'.

EDIT: Don't even worry about it. You're a different person than you were when you posted that. Or else you wouldn't be apologizing!!

The mind keeps on flowing!

 

[Mediate]

All the schmaltzy eastern religions speak of loving your neighbor.
None of them speak of evil. None of them mention why there is evil in the world.
It is all 'what comes from within oneself'.
I swear.......at least Jim Jones' followers could see him.
Just tell me Mediate,......Does a personified evil entity exist?
Or is it all in our heads...................!!!!!

You forget that Judaism IS an eastern religion! lol

'The beas't, 'the serpent seed'.

'Heaven is in the eye of a mustard seed',.

'The kingdom of God is not something we can look at and say 'there it is', it is within us' ..